Bubble Trouble: A Geomancer Guide

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By Chimerawizard 2020-01-28 11:27:17  
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you def should have

sets.idle = (no bubble out)

sets.idle.Pet (bubble out)

some people have 3+ different Pet idle sets with mix/match of regen/dt and owner refresh/dt etc

This is my sets.idle.pet

Merlinic head aug with +Pet regen4
Telchine with +Pet regen4 and Magic eva 25
Nant with 20magic eva, +15 pet regen
ItemSet 362808

Is it a typo ? It seems the max pet regen possible with skirmish stones is 3 no ?
pretty sure DarkMatter augments can go to pet: regen+5
edit: oops, misread. telchine, yeah that cap's at 3.
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By Asura.Toralin 2020-01-28 14:57:56  
Yes telechine 3 sorry was a typo
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By Phoenix.Tearxx 2020-01-28 15:06:57  
Asura.Toralin said: »
you def should have

sets.idle = (no bubble out)

sets.idle.Pet (bubble out)

some people have 3+ different Pet idle sets with mix/match of regen/dt and owner refresh/dt etc

This is my sets.idle.pet

Merlinic head aug with +Pet regen4
Telchine with +Pet regen3 and Magic eva 25
Nant with 20magic eva, +15 pet regen
ItemSet 362808

Another option that I personally use is empy +1 hat and flip an earring to hypaspist. I also hate Telchine body over other options (something with refresh on it or master DT- or both if you have shamash).
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2020-01-28 15:57:37  
I personally use this. Been considering swapping my cape from -10 PDT to -5 DT, but I find physical damage to be a larger threat more commonly, so I like making sure that's capped.

ItemSet 367279

Legs with HP+50, Pet Regen+3, M.Eva+22
Cape with HP+80, Pet Regen+10, M.Eva+20, PDT -10%

Puts me at 2312 HP before food. Wish Emp+3 would come out so I could stop feeling bad about using Emp head over an augmented Telchine, but *** Skirmish augs.
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By Asura.Sechs 2020-01-28 16:12:15  
I have 4 idle sets on GEO.
Normal Idle, no Luopan
Normal Idle, Luopan up
DT idle, no Luopan
DT idle, Luopan out

Focusing ont he last one, this is what I'm currently using:
ItemSet 363314

This is what I used before I got Shamash Robe:
ItemSet 363313

Dark Ring has 5PDT, 5MDT, 5BDT
Cape is: HP+60, Eva+20, MEva+30, DT-5%, Pet: Regen+10
It's a set to cap MDT, PDT, pet DT, while trying to get as much Pet Regen and Meva as possible.
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By Chimerawizard 2020-01-29 04:34:34  
sets.idle = {main="Daybreak",sub="Culminus",ammo="Psilomene",
head=gear.merlinic_refresh_head,neck="Dualism Collar +1",ear1="Brachyura Earring",ear2="Etiolation Earring",
body="Jhakri Robe +2",hands="Bagua Mitaines +3",ring1="Stikini Ring +1",ring2="Stikini Ring +1",
back=gear.idle_jse_back,waist="Shinjutsu-no-Obi +1",legs="Assid. Pants +1",feet="Geomancy Sandals +3"}
*refresh everywhere; no refresh option? HP/MP. feet to move fast. ear1 to get hit by pro/shell5.
**back has HP, eva, petregen, & pdt.

sets.idle.DT = set_combine(sets.idle, {main="Malignance Pole",sub="Khonsu",
ring1="Defending Ring",ring2="Shadow Ring",legs="Artsieq Hose"})
*DT swaps.
**legs are path C, pdt-5.

sets.idle.Pet = {main="Idris",sub="Culminus",range="Dunna",
head="Telchine Cap",neck="Bagua Charm +2",ear1="Hypaspist Earring",ear2="Rimeice Earring",
body="Jhakri Robe +2",hands="Bagua Mitaines +3",ring1="Stikini Ring +1",ring2="Stikini Ring +1",
back=gear.idle_jse_back,waist="Isa Belt",legs=gear.telchine_idle_legs,feet="Bagua Sandals +3"}
*pet: regen/dt, refresh.
**head & legs: meva+20~25 & petregen+3, legs petDT-4 as well.

sets.idle.DT.Pet = set_combine(sets.idle.Pet, {sub="Genmei Shield",range=empty,ammo="Staunch Tathlum +1",
ear1="Lugalbanda Earring",ear2="Etiolation Earring",
body="Mallquis Saio +2",hands="Geo. Mitaines +3",ring1="Defending Ring",ring2="Shadow Ring",
legs="Artsieq Hose"})
*don't die, don't let pet die. someone toss me a refresh plz.
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By andy1110 2020-01-31 10:04:18  
hi everyone, new GEO her, I am wondering if the equipsets on 1st page still up2date. And should I put geo skill set in mid-cast of geo spells or precast? thanks in advance!
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By Chimerawizard 2020-01-31 10:07:53  
The handbell needs to be in both precast & midcast for handbell skill to have any effect.
skill gear only needs to be equipped in the midcast set.

edit: as for whether the guide is up to date. It appears to be mostly abandoned after Omen. The only mention past that is one piece of relic+3, no ea+1, other relic+3, JSE neck, or new HTBF items listed.
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By Bismarck.Mcdougall 2020-01-31 22:33:55  
Okay, I am sure this is somewhere i just have not been able to locate it. When do you need the 900 skill gear. Is it only midcast? Do you need 900 skill when luopan is out? When indri spell is going? I dont have Idris... I do have Bagua charm +2. Does the charm need to be on only during the cast as well? Sorry I just dont 100% understand this part. Thank you.

Also.... when luopan is out can i sit in tathlum? or do i need handbell still.... thank you... sorry.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2020-02-01 00:31:23  
Bismarck.Mcdougall said: »
Okay, I am sure this is somewhere i just have not been able to locate it. When do you need the 900 skill gear. Is it only midcast? Do you need 900 skill when luopan is out? When indri spell is going? I dont have Idris... I do have Bagua charm +2. Does the charm need to be on only during the cast as well? Sorry I just dont 100% understand this part. Thank you.

Also.... when luopan is out can i sit in tathlum? or do i need handbell still.... thank you... sorry.

900 skill and +geomancy for midcast only. You'll want the charm on for Idle whenever possible (for the augment effects) but you can use other necks for whatever other reason.
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By Wotasu 2020-02-01 01:44:45  
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Bismarck.Mcdougall said: »
Okay, I am sure this is somewhere i just have not been able to locate it. When do you need the 900 skill gear. Is it only midcast? Do you need 900 skill when luopan is out? When indri spell is going? I dont have Idris... I do have Bagua charm +2. Does the charm need to be on only during the cast as well? Sorry I just dont 100% understand this part. Thank you.

Also.... when luopan is out can i sit in tathlum? or do i need handbell still.... thank you... sorry.

900 skill and +geomancy for midcast only. You'll want the charm on for Idle whenever possible (for the augment effects) but you can use other necks for whatever other reason.
You also want the Charm on Midcast if it's a +1/2 for the geomancy+6/7 bonus over Dunna's +5. (small Edit: reading skill are bad 5 in the morning, just saw everything was already answered)
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By Chimerawizard 2020-02-01 04:46:43  
for geo spells, you'll also want the charm in midcast for the lower starting perp cost. geo gude: page45
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By andy1110 2020-02-01 07:23:02  
what's the cap of pet DT?
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By Chimerawizard 2020-02-01 07:24:54  
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what's the cap of pet DT?
87.5, with native 50%, that leaves 37.5 in gear. source
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By andy1110 2020-02-02 06:06:06  
thanks for the answers, does the BoG effect stack with Bolster?
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By Wotasu 2020-02-02 07:10:08  
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thanks for the answers, does the BoG effect stack with Bolster?
Nope.
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By gargurty 2020-02-16 11:06:16  
I know, I'm nuts but I'm looking for a top end aeilian edge ws set for geo. Anyone got an idea for me ;). Atm I use almeric +1 set.
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By Chimerawizard 2020-02-16 16:06:22  
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I know, I'm nuts but I'm looking for a top end aeilian edge ws set for geo. Anyone got an idea for me ;). Atm I use almeric +1 set.
probably something similar to this:
ItemSet 363536bagua head, freke ring, and different main/sub/back
also, consider cataclysm as an alternative.
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By geigei 2020-03-22 04:03:25  
Tuisto earring for idle? def 20, vit 10, 150mp to 150hp
I have no idea what to get other than embla sash for geo mules.
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By Asura.Sechs 2020-03-22 06:36:52  
Get Wyrm dust and sell it?
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By gargurty 2020-03-23 07:30:05  
Anyone know how i can add to equip orpheus's sash on ra spells to a lua? Think it could work maybe?
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By Asura.Laboob 2020-05-16 19:59:37  
About to test this, but does anyone know if Bagua Galero +3 is better for aspir than Pixie Hairpin +1?

Any thoughts?
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By Valefor.Yandaime 2020-05-16 20:15:06  
Asura.Laboob said: »
About to test this, but does anyone know if Bagua Galero +3 is better for aspir than Pixie Hairpin +1?

Any thoughts?

hmm not sure actually, I feel like it SHOULD?. Will be easy to test though if you have a buddy with a mage job. Just go into a Brenner or Diorama and get some Aspir and Drain samples. Remove all gears from the test subject to remove any variables that Meva might cause.
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By Asura.Topace 2020-06-13 17:21:22  
Is the Bagua Set+3 Bis for nuking? Then EA+1 for MB?
 
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2020-06-13 20:07:13  
Valefor.Yandaime said: »
Asura.Laboob said: »
About to test this, but does anyone know if Bagua Galero +3 is better for aspir than Pixie Hairpin +1?

Any thoughts?

hmm not sure actually, I feel like it SHOULD?. Will be easy to test though if you have a buddy with a mage job. Just go into a Brenner or Diorama and get some Aspir and Drain samples. Remove all gears from the test subject to remove any variables that Meva might cause.
The only time Bagua+3 is going to be better for potency is if your aspir set is really, really, bad. Well, or if you are getting resists. The macc difference is significant. But anyway.

Pixie hairpin+1 is affinity. Which means that it is multiplicative with drain/apsir+. So it's base * Drain/aspir+ * affinity.

If you have no drain/aspir+ then you can just compare them as +35 vs +28, but once you start adding some aspir+ the affinity picks up speed.

At 509 dark skill and +30 drain/aspir, Pixie will be all of 1 point of MP drained behind Bagua+3. Add any more Aspir+ and Pixie will always be ahead.

With a fairly maxed out aspir+ set(488 skill, 99 aspir+ before galero) You'd be looking at a 899 avg aspir III for galero, vs a 968 avg for Pixie.

It's not a huge difference, and Galero has the advantage of better macc, and actually having some haste for those recasts. But if you're wanting the max mp per aspir, and aren't getting resisted, then pixie+1.
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By gargurty 2020-06-13 21:24:13  
how does this set looks like, cos im not getting those numbers :)
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By Zhaoyan 2020-06-13 23:21:57  
Asura.Laboob said: »
About to test this, but does anyone know if Bagua Galero +3 is better for aspir than Pixie Hairpin +1?

Any thoughts?

I did a little testing in my normal Drain/Aspir set with a few different head pieces and got the following results.

My normal set has 497 dark magic skill and +58 D/A potency with no head piece. I did Aspir I on 10 crabs wearing each head piece and starting with around 1000/1500mp

White Rarab Cap +1 (no stats)
Low: 161
High: 312
Avg: 235.5

Pixie Hairpin +1 Dark MAB +28
Low: 174
High: 377
Avg: 277.6

Bagua Galero +1 D/A potency +25
Low: 187
High: 302
Avg: 225.5

I plan on retesting once I +3 my Bagua galero but I wanted to get a baseline at +1.
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By Asura.Sechs 2020-06-14 12:44:21  
Asura.Lioncourt said: »
Amalric +1 with merlinic head, cath palug crown is a decent substitute for freenuking, Ea+1 for Mb is correct.
I'm not sure Cath Palug Crown is better than Bagua Galero +3.
More Macc, bit more int, bit less mab. I think they're pretty much the same.

Bagua+3 set is not really that bad all in all, what puts it behind Amalric+1 is mostly the set bonus. Putting that aside each piece is pretty close.
If someone doesn't already have full Amalric+1 but he happens to have full Bagua+3 and wants to save inventory space/gil, I don't think it would be that bad to use Bagua+3 for freenuking, honestly.
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By Fenrir.Aladeus 2020-06-14 14:34:14  
The problem with that theory is bagua is locked to 1 job and amalric isn't.
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