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Trust Ciphers!
Cerberus.Elvyn
サーバ: Cerberus
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By Cerberus.Elvyn 2015-07-02 11:59:27
Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial said: »Spine Chiller is Leonoyne's personal WS, not Maximilian's. :P Herculean Slash is just the level 290 GS WS.
Thank You! My bad ><; Edited to reflect this.
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2015-07-02 12:42:53
I want to care about DD trusts, I really do... It is a bit sad that the only reason I collect them is because I can. Maximillian looks like to be one of the better ones though.
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Bismarck.Rwolf
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 148
By Bismarck.Rwolf 2015-07-03 00:31:28
I've also seen Kayeel-Payeel use Starburst and he will use Gate of Tartarus when his MP runs low.
Leviathan.Krysten
サーバ: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 751
By Leviathan.Krysten 2015-07-03 01:20:34
i like kayeel more then max he likes to MB alot
Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 332
By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2015-07-03 01:21:35
Just noticed that Maximilian has TH1. Was doing some solo Voidwatch and it was saying my TH increased alignment by 1%, and I was RUN/WHM with no TH gear, no TH kupower, and other trusts were Koru-Moru, Leonoyne, and Kayeel-Payeel.
サーバ: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-07-03 01:23:29
Pieuje is an Afflatus: Misery WHM. From what I've been told, he's mechanically weaker than Apururu, though some clearly prefer him (her? Idk) as shown by his ranking on Bahamut. I personally think his HP are too low to be risking his arse mid-melee...
Apururu is a better WHM than I am, so I'll keep her. The one thing she lacks is Solace, other than going derpy if someone casts Refresh on her. That will occasionally cause her to not use Nott, instead casting Cure and sitting at like 20mp.
Can confirm Devotion use on trust; she Devotions my Amchuchu often enough to make her life easier. Go Taru trust team!
Leviathan.Krysten
サーバ: Leviathan
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2015-07-03 16:06:15
she does both devotion and marytr and shes the best healer period lol.
Cerberus.Maeldiar
サーバ: Cerberus
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2015-07-04 16:13:40
did you get TH from kupopower perhaps?
サーバ: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-07-09 14:23:10
An odd question: do the geo-Trusts (Sakura, Moogle, Star Sybil, Kuyin, Brygid) affect pets? Specifically, avatars. I'm wondering if it's worth it to stand close enough so that my avatar could gain their benefits.
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2015-07-09 14:49:28
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »An odd question: do the geo-Trusts (Sakura, Moogle, Star Sybil, Kuyin, Brygid) affect pets? Specifically, avatars. I'm wondering if it's worth it to stand close enough so that my avatar could gain their benefits.
It is easy to test with any pet and Sakura.
By Fluval 2015-07-09 14:51:40
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »An odd question: do the geo-Trusts (Sakura, Moogle, Star Sybil, Kuyin, Brygid) affect pets? Specifically, avatars. I'm wondering if it's worth it to stand close enough so that my avatar could gain their benefits.
Quick test on my SMN with Carby and Brygid shows no benefit.
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By MikeTizzle 2015-07-09 20:27:10
Not sure if this is the right place?
Do trusts add the bonus to corsairs for rolls?
Example if I have zeid out and I roll the chaos dice, do I get the bonus for having him out?
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2015-07-12 03:27:14
Not sure if this is the right place?
Do trusts add the bonus to corsairs for rolls?
Example if I have zeid out and I roll the chaos dice, do I get the bonus for having him out?
You can test with Mumor/Uka/Lilisette and Dancer's Roll.
Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 332
By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2015-07-15 02:25:31
Not sure if this is the right place?
Do trusts add the bonus to corsairs for rolls?
Example if I have zeid out and I roll the chaos dice, do I get the bonus for having him out? Pretty sure they do. I know that say, having Zeid out affects Qultada's Chaos Roll. That being the case, I'd imagine it would also affect player-used rolls.
Side note: I haven't tested Robel-Akbel in combat yet, but I am disappointed that he and Lehko don't react to each other when summoned. :( Nor does he react to Star Sibyl, or vice versa. (He reacts to Karaha-Baruha and Kayeel-Payeel, and they react to him.)
Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
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Posts: 332
By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2015-07-19 21:03:00
Actually tried Robel-Akbel out in Morimar WKR, he's a pretty awesome nuker. Saw him MB Thundaja for nearly 10k damage, and he was consistently MBing Waterga on Distortion and Darkness chains for 2k+ each. I also saw him use a WS called Quietus Sphere (I think? going off memory), which did like 3-4k and from the animation, looked to be AoE.
On a side note, anyone know what Invincible Shield's trust does? Just wondering because his unity is somehow in 1st place instead of Apururu on Quetz this week...
Phoenix.Gameesh
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2015-07-20 09:49:31
Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial said: »Actually tried Robel-Akbel out in Morimar WKR, he's a pretty awesome nuker. Saw him MB Thundaja for nearly 10k damage, and he was consistently MBing Waterga on Distortion and Darkness chains for 2k+ each. I also saw him use a WS called Quietus Sphere (I think? going off memory), which did like 3-4k and from the animation, looked to be AoE.
On a side note, anyone know what Invincible Shield's trust does? Just wondering because his unity is somehow in 1st place instead of Apururu on Quetz this week...
*raises hand*
He's actually a pretty good warrior!
Here's the scoop:
Job is WAR/(possibly)MNK due to having a rather large HP pool, even for a warrior.
Uses the following abilities:
- Berserk
- Provoke
- Retalliation
- Blood Rage (will not use if warcry is up, by himself or pt member)
- Warcry (will not use if blood rage is up, by himself or pt member)
- Restraint
- Tomohawk (only uses it when -def is already applied to an enemy. I didn't know the effects stacked?)
* Seems to have Savagery meritted.
Uses the following weaponskills:
- Raging Rush
- Steel Cyclone
- Soturi's Fury (flashier version of Ukko's Fury)
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By Asura.Tigredor 2015-07-20 10:25:51
Not sure if this is the right place?
Do trusts add the bonus to corsairs for rolls?
Example if I have zeid out and I roll the chaos dice, do I get the bonus for having him out?
You can test with Ayame/Gilgamesh/Tenzen and Tactician's roll.
Tactician's roll isn't attached to any job for bonus. Can only be boosted by Empy body and phantom roll+ rings afaik.
Fenrir.Atheryn
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-07-20 10:42:47
Could always try Dancer's roll. Call some trusts, let them take damage, use the roll and see how potent their regen is. Then replace one of the trusts with Mumor (or Uka/Lilisette) and repeat.
If trusts can trigger the job bonus, the regen with a DNC trust will be higher.
Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial
サーバ: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 332
By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2015-07-21 21:22:02
- Tomohawk (only uses it when -def is already applied to an enemy. I didn't know the effects stacked?) Tomahawk would definitely stack with any defense down, because it is not defense down itself. It just reduces resistances. Like, for example, slimes and elementals are resistant to melee damage, and it makes them less resistant to melee damage (doesn't remove the resistance entirely, unfortunately; from what I remember, it's not even a very potent reduction, but it's at least noticeable).
Still, even with that info, I'm wondering why Invincible Shield is so suddenly popular on my server. Maybe it's a JP thing? Of course, there's a lot of JPs in Apururu too...
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2015-07-22 12:01:36
Not sure if this is the right place?
Do trusts add the bonus to corsairs for rolls?
Example if I have zeid out and I roll the chaos dice, do I get the bonus for having him out?
You can test with Ayame/Gilgamesh/Tenzen and Tactician's roll. Mumor/Uka/Lilisette and Dancer's Roll.
Tactician's roll isn't attached to any job for bonus. Can only be boosted by Empy body and phantom roll+ rings afaik.
Derp. You are right. I thought it was attached to SAM for a moment there. Dancer's Roll is the way to go for testing.
Fenrir.Martin
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 126
By Fenrir.Martin 2015-07-22 13:22:24
let's face it, best solo combo for most things, solo jp, wkr, solo chpt fights, etc.
koru
apururu
ulmia
<insert situational trust here>*
*need a tank? amchuchu, need sc's? ayame, need more buffs? joachim/qultada. xping? kupofried.
random unities keep taking the lead on fenrir for no reason..everyone should be apururu.
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By FaeQueenCory 2015-07-22 13:28:32
let's face it, best solo combo for most things, solo jp, wkr, solo chpt fights, etc.
koru
apururu
ulmia
<insert situational trust here>*
*need a tank? amchuchu, need sc's? ayame, need more buffs? joachim/qultada. xping? kupofried.
random unities keep taking the lead on fenrir for no reason..everyone should be apururu. Only quibbles would be Arciela situationally instead of Koru, since she is more haste friendly.
And I would group the last two slots together.
Some situations/jobs Joachim will be better than Ulmia, others need neither and Qultada will be better, etc.
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By Asura.Mrxdemix 2015-07-24 13:26:22
I'm looking for a proper tank Trust. Any tips?
Forum Moderator
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2015-07-24 13:28:17
I'm looking for a proper tank Trust. Any tips?
Amuchuchu is a good magic damage tank,
Gessho is probably some of the better tanks
Bismarck.Zuidar
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1273
By Bismarck.Zuidar 2015-08-05 11:58:36
Balamor Trust cannot be cured... considering he is undead :p
but can still be buffed with shell/protect
サーバ: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-08-05 15:57:54
How do we get Rosalita, Mumor II (event probably), Teodor, and August Trusts?
I'm guessing the battle content in the Inner Court, but idk.
Valefor.Sehachan
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Game: FFXI
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-08-05 16:06:19
Sinister Reign, it's in the update notes.
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Sylph.Traxus
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 383
By Sylph.Traxus 2015-08-05 16:24:42
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/38761-About-the-Trust-Initiative
SE didn't list Teodor or Mumor 2 yet. Teodor prob from next trust expo (or next months login campaign). Mumor 2 should be from sunbreeze festival soon.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2015-08-05 16:53:30
Thanks a ton guys, I appreciate it.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2015-08-05 20:12:22
For those wondering, you can obtain the Abquhbah alter ego by talking to him. You need to have completed the missions Ever Forward and President Salaheem.
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