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 Carbuncle.Kaelthas
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By Carbuncle.Kaelthas 2014-01-31 06:06:26  
What we've been waiting 500 years for:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/39292-Cait-Sith-Atomos?s=c681ebef1b9ca11fcbdc6b6a36e095c6&p=490682#post490682
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-31 07:02:16  
Yeah, I will believe it when I see it.

It has been, what, 3 years since it was first announced.

Until the day of the actual update, I will be very skeptical that this will occur...
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-01-31 07:26:45  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Yeah, I will believe it when I see it.

It has been, what, 3 years since it was first announced.

Until the day of the actual update, I will be very skeptical that this will occur...
>3 years

It had been 3 years already 3 years ago. We're nearing the decade.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2014-01-31 07:26:46  
*** RME/AA/Relic armor

THIS is worth re-subbing for.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-01-31 07:45:00  
It'd be ironic if they do release Cait Sith and Atomos.... as Trust NPC's.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2014-01-31 07:46:57  
After all the waiting and SE excuses, they`ll finally release them and they'll be a big let down.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-01-31 07:49:34  
Oh don't worry, Cait Sith will definetely be a useless avatar.
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By Kalila 2014-01-31 08:12:12  
"Yay, my update has finally arrived! :3"



(best minion ever imo)
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2014-01-31 08:16:27  
Kalila said: »
"Yay, my update has finally arrived! :3"



(best minion ever imo)

holy ***that lala is adorable
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By Asura.Echandra 2014-01-31 08:21:49  
ya I am going to be skeptical too until I see it. For instance he says March update...but doesn't say MARCH 2014. He could be talking about March 2017 based on their previous track record.
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2014-01-31 08:29:38  
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By Sylph.Linkk 2014-01-31 09:59:27  
Back when I use to play I always thought the idea of the Cait Sith avatar was just plain stupid. Atomos had no appeal to me either. I could never understand the hype about them other than getting new avatars. I would have preferred a Bahamut avatar. You would think that should have been a given even if it was planned to be released later on in the game instead of having people jumping around excited about a dam cat.. WTF lol
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By Phoenix.Innina 2014-01-31 10:03:32  
omg, I might have to come back for this o_o!
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By Phoenix.Damnit 2014-01-31 10:41:22  
Holy ***on a cracker. ...
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-01-31 10:55:48  
Sylph.Linkk said: »
I would have preferred a Bahamut avatar.

This.

Here's what I'd like to see - promote Alexander and Odin to actual summonable + controllable avatars, and also add Bahamut and perhaps Ixion. Give each of them a range of desirable BP:wards and rages that are clearly better than the regular avatars, but also give them a significantly higher perp cost so you can't keep them out for particularly long.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2014-01-31 10:57:48  
Asura.Calatilla said: »
After all the waiting and SE excuses, they`ll finally release them and they'll be a big let down.

I always got the impression it more the "whoops, we couldn't add something we promised 2 years ago, again" that annoyed people, most SMNs I talk to think that it's unlikely that a new summon or two is going to impact the job in any meaningful way. I fully expect people to *** about how crappy they are after they're released even though they focused all their energy into complaining about them never coming out and less on issues with SMN as a job overall.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-01-31 10:59:38  
I should add that I'm going to feel a little silly assaulting mobs with a cavernous maw.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-01-31 11:01:51  
Atomos is supposedely gonna be Astral Flow only.

edit: at least this was their original intention
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-01-31 11:02:41  
It'll still feel silly...
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2014-01-31 11:04:07  
This post in the OP also said we're not getting Atomos this patch. I don't even remember Atomos being promised originally, only Cait Sith. I've asked this in the past, for someone to provide an actual source of them saying "we're going to add Atomos" and I've never gotten one. Granted the OP basically confirms we're getting it later down the line, but I'm talking about before this. I don't ever recall them mentioning Cait Sith and Atomos in the same breath, only other players.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-31 11:04:37  
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
perhaps Ixion
In order for them to give us Ixion, they would have to give us 5 more elemental avatars outside of thunder to counteract the balance issues.

2 thunder element avatars kindof sucks when you have only 1 of the other elements.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-01-31 11:05:28  
I'm too lazy to search, but they definetely said Cait Sith as summonable avatar and Atomos as 2hour only(back when it was 2 hour!)
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2014-01-31 11:07:33  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
perhaps Ixion
In order for them to give us Ixion, they would have to give us 5 more elemental avatars outside of thunder to counteract the balance issues.

2 thunder element avatars kindof sucks when you have only 1 of the other elements.

this was never an issue with dark

there's some likely candidates anyway, bismarck for water would be kinda cool

we're just dreaming now though, it took us like 3 years to get 1 tiny avatar
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By Phoenix.Damnit 2014-01-31 11:19:02  
@Kincard
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/12096-Job-Manifesto-discussion-RE-Summoner?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-01-31 11:21:38  
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
perhaps Ixion
In order for them to give us Ixion, they would have to give us 5 more elemental avatars outside of thunder to counteract the balance issues.

2 thunder element avatars kindof sucks when you have only 1 of the other elements.

this was never an issue with dark

there's some likely candidates anyway, bismarck for water would be kinda cool

we're just dreaming now though, it took us like 3 years to get 1 tiny avatar
Cait Sith was supposed to be the solution of the light vs dark unbalance that we had since Diabolos.

Fenrir is still the dark avatar to go to for physical damage, but Diabolos is now the dark avatar to go to for magical dark damage. We don't really have a good light damage avatar yet. Cait Sith was our solution that has been on the backlog for 3+ years now...
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By Heimdel 2014-01-31 11:57:26  
Has anyone given and thought to what a level 99 content avatar prime fight will be like....?
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2014-01-31 12:03:01  
If we use Ceithir as a guide we could likely see our new avatar getting:

Regal Scratch: Single target damage.
Divine Favor: Full Erase.
Mewing Lullaby: Sleepga + TP reset.
Eerie Eye: Amnesia + Silence.
Level ? Holy: Deals damage based on a die roll.
Likely Getting Banish and/or Holy spells like the others get T2/4.

Edit: So if I had to guess on its 10:

BPR:
Level ? Holy (Astral Flow)
Scratch?
Banish II
Banish IV
Regal Scratch

BPW:
Mewing Lullaby
Eerie Eye
Divine Favor
Buff to magic defense (ccffvii)
Debuff that lowers a random stat (opposite of carbuncle, semi-present in ffx-2)

If Eerie Eye can land reliably even for a short duration on bosses it will make Cait Sith amazing. A full Erase would be very nice as well.

If we use that same fight for a guide on Atomos we can likely see it either reducing the targets stats to low amounts depending on summoning magic skill and/or MP or draining them to either yourself, the party or enhancing your next Cait Sith summon (would be cool to see).
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-01-31 12:12:17  
I think he had '??? Holy' as one of its main abilities in the battle mission.
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2014-01-31 12:16:36  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I think he had '??? Holy' as one of its main abilities in the battle mission.

Yup just edited my last post with my suspected 10 abilities :X
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-01-31 12:18:37  
Sylph.Dasanuffadat said: »
If we use that same fight for a guide on Atomos we can likely see it either reducing the targets stats to low amounts depending on summoning magic skill and/or MP or draining them to either yourself, the party or enhancing your next Cait Sith summon (would be cool to see).
I imagined, since it was said to be AF only, it would dramatically drain all the target's stats and place them on the smn for a short period. Like a 20 seconds brew!
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