20 Kids Stabbed

all these kids stabbed, it's time to ban guns.


am i doing it right libs?

Sounds about right to me...

What about guns with knives attached to them.

Now I'm really scared. Right before I got shot in the face I yelled "this is a gun free zone!!:

...What? Run through the conversation and see what was said:

One guy says how restricting guns would not reduce crime because criminals will always break the law.
Other guy counters by saying that it doesn't matter if "criminals" (people that have already committed a crime) don't give their guns back because it makes it harder for people that arn't criminals yet to get guns.
You chime in with "criminals dont follow the law", which is missing the point and just repeating what the first person said without countering his point.

am i doing it right conserviz?

FTR I'm mostly pro-gun, I'm just not a fan of bad arguments which was what KingNobody was doing.

Though again, what you're talking about is all hypothetical. There's no way to know simply by thinking of situations whether an absolute decrease or increase etc in crime would occur. Personally I think it would have no effect whatsoever based on what I've seen of other countries, but that's just me.

I'm pro choice: gun or knife is ok with me.

Shaving my face is so much easier with a semiautomatic.

Actually, that's only part of it.

I guess I overplayed my hand as usual by expecting people to be able to read implications.

a.) The term "criminal" is a post facto designation. No one is born a criminal (unless they're brown and in the wrong part of town, of course). Crime is regularly committed by people with no record, either because they've never done anything (serious) before or because they've merely never been caught.

b.) The statement of "criminals won't give up their guns" or "criminals will find a way to get guns" is accurate enough, but at issue is that people saying that are inherently thinking of habitual offenders, hence the unsubtly racist image of what may or may not have been Hispanic gang members. Habitual offenders, the group people associate with the blanket term "criminals," are hardly the only people that commit crimes.

c.) (This is what you said, Kincard) If I want to murder my hypothetical wife tomorrow, I'm going to have considerable difficulty securing a firearm right now, today, in 2014. A law that bans firearms necessarily involves a law to capture and destroy them. Although the habitual offenders will probably still get guns (at even more considerable difficulty), the average person looking to commit a crime is facing a steep climb to get a gun. I know it's really convenient to think that a ban on guns will just leave all existing firearms untouched (by "convenient" I mean "patently HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE"), but that's hardly how the real world works.

Or I can just write a simple sentence pointing out how weak an argument it is to focus only on those already known to be dangerous to the exclusion of those who commit the majority of new crimes. And watch the even weaker attempts at argument flow in.

Oh, and we can throw in that most crimes aren't committed using firearms, anyhow. That's a point for the pro-gun side that oddly never gets used, probably because it destabilizes the "omigawd, I need to be able to shoot brown people criminals coming at me with a gun!" argument.

Here in cali there isn't too much of a "steep climb" to get unregistered or illegal guns, but maybe that's just this state.

And your reading comprehension drops another notch.

I really don't care either way about gun control, just saying in california illegal/unregistered firearms actually exist already. Not saying anything more than that

And I already acknowledged it. The "steep climb" bit that you latched onto was about after the passing of a hypothetical ban. It was emphatically not talking about today.

Though, as a regular citizen, I have no clue where or how I'd go about getting a gun in my city. I know I can, but even working with ex-cons, it's not exactly the kind of topic that comes up.

Don't mind Onorgul, he insults anyone who disagrees with him.

I don't mind really, I am only half paying attention between loading screens and fixing printers and stuff so I don't really entirely read walls o text. Today is a lax day at work... my big project for today got cancelled so I am just left sitting here really

Maybe Eric Holder should of gave this person some AK47s like he did with the cartels in Fast & Furious? That way he would not of had to work so hard at trying to kill people by stabbing them to death.
Then all the libtards would be jumping in their seat screaming at us that it is our fault that this happened too.

But no, they are left scratching their heads in silence waiting for something that will fit their agenda.

Like with both fort Hood incidents & this stabbing spree of 20 children and just about very other mass homicide committed are you willing to concede that the magical "Gun Free Zones" do nothing to keep you safe and your argument is invalid and has failed at the expenses of all these lives and families ruined?

Must be nice.

My busy season ends next Tuesday (yay!) but work has started to get a little light. I have already filed all of my extensions, helping people in my firm out right now.

Which is why I'm able to come on this website every now and then as a small break...

And what does deces do?

Congrats on tuesday! And you work at a firm also? XD All I have to do is show up, not be an ***, and try to fix pc problems. So it isn't hard really, aside from web page SEO ranking stuff. Today I was supposed to drive a dvd to some client 2 hours away because someone forgot to give it to them, but turns out the client is coming into town tomorrow so no need. Now I am just sitting here loading misc software onto a few pc's and burning some other dvd's. There's also been 0 service calls so today has been awesome

Deces didn't insult Dawn.

I have 14 siblings, a red headed girlfriend, a mexican father and an irish mother, insults stopped phasing me a loooooong time ago

My days lately has been "Hey, did you file an extension for me? Can I come by to drop off my stuff? Can you get it done before the 15th (and yes, I have clients doing this to me on the 9th, they think that I have nothing better to do than wait for them to drop their stuff off....)"

Hey viciousss,
It's okay to cry.

Still waiting for an answer. Take your time.

Yeah, well that's all good in that particular hypothetical, not all situations are equal, and you keep failing to realize that.


Not at all, but continue thinking that as it helps you sleep at night/defends your lackluster argument.

While I've lived in rural areas, I much prefer the cities and being around others. Your arguments are bad and you should feel bad, talk about emotional arguments. Everything you just said can be boiled down to "guns are scary so I don't want people to have them" while all the time failing to realize that you cannot stop people from owning things if they really want to have it, you can only stop people from being able to defend themselves, not to mention that people have the right to own, and that right shouldn't be infringed, do you not know what the word infringement means?



No, you're not.

You cannot have a fully automatic weapon (which to be honest, is unconstitutional) besides that it's called a magazine.

Bolded for the reading comprehension.

I like you.

People are ignorant of how simple it is to build electronic devices to the extent of destroying civilization, the only real issue is the really destructive ones typically take a lot of power, and as we rely on the grid, it would be easy to stop rather quickly.