U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds
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U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds
Great, now I'm moderately aroused.
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Send a sensory device the size of a small car to a planet 30 million miles away: "Yeah, that's cool. Why not?" Discover previously unconfirmed elementary constituents of matter by smashing particles together at near light speeds: "Wow, science can do such interesting things!" Describe and predict current and future climate deviations from baseline levels based on well-substantiated physical theory and supported by enormous amounts of observational evidence: "NOW HOLD THE *** PHONE SAVE THAT ***FOR SYFY MOVIES SCIENCE IS DUMB IT'S COLD IN MY ROOM THEREFORE POTATO" But then again, for you, hypothesis = fact. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Great, now I'm moderately aroused. Shiva.Nikolce said: » I can see Pleebo carrying all of us stoopids on his shoulders, like atlas... except not in a tidy spherical mass but just a huge pile of writhing idiotic bodies trying to wrestle themselves free so they can fall into a pit of lava... You'll never save me alive!!!! <kersploonk... sizzle!!!!> 
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I did not realize that there was such controversy over hypothesis testing.
Do they not teach the scientific method in schools anymore? Science? SCIENCE?! You mean that devil's tool to figure out the way things work with magic?! BLASHPEMER! You'd honestly be surprised what's been stricken from science classes these days. I think scientific method is the least of your worries. Bismarck.Bloodrose said: » Science? SCIENCE?! You mean that devil's tool to figure out the way things work with magic?! BLASHPEMER! You'd honestly be surprised what's been stricken from science classes these days. I think scientific method is the least of your worries. Bahamut.Milamber said: » Bismarck.Bloodrose said: » Science? SCIENCE?! You mean that devil's tool to figure out the way things work with magic?! BLASHPEMER! You'd honestly be surprised what's been stricken from science classes these days. I think scientific method is the least of your worries. Bahamut.Kara said: » I did not realize that there was such controversy over hypothesis testing. Do they not teach the scientific method in schools anymore? The controversy is over presenting arguably biased hypothesis testing as cold hard fact.
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I'm still waiting for the "and God shat out the transistor and said lo, let there be semiconductors and processors in bountiful supply, and may your logic gates multiply, amen"
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Science: Wibbly, wobbly, timey, wimey liberal indoctrination tool.
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Bahamut.Kara said: » I did not realize that there was such controversy over hypothesis testing. Do they not teach the scientific method in schools anymore? I would allege some silly religious conspiracy or something, but all of our teaching standards have been falling at rather shocking rates. And, for the record, I was introduced to the basics of the scientific method (and skepticism) in first grade. I was also taught how to write and publish narrative, how to sing, how to join wood, and a host of other skills that I still use all the time. I seriously wonder if that makes my education increasingly unique.
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Have you actually read the IPCC reports? Everything is essentially phrased as probabilities, e.g. highly correlates, low probability, etc.
Shiva.Nikolce said: » I can see Pleebo carrying all of us stoopids on his shoulders, like atlas... except not in a tidy spherical mass but just a huge pile of writhing idiotic bodies trying to wrestle themselves free so they can fall into a pit of lava... You'll never save me alive!!!! <kersploonk... sizzle!!!!> Shiva.Onorgul said: » Bahamut.Kara said: » I did not realize that there was such controversy over hypothesis testing. Do they not teach the scientific method in schools anymore? I would allege some silly religious conspiracy or something, but all of our teaching standards have been falling at rather shocking rates. And, for the record, I was introduced to the basics of the scientific method (and skepticism) in first grade. I was also taught how to write and publish narrative, how to sing, how to join wood, and a host of other skills that I still use all the time. I seriously wonder if that makes my education increasingly unique. Shiva.Onorgul said: » Bahamut.Kara said: » I did not realize that there was such controversy over hypothesis testing. Do they not teach the scientific method in schools anymore? I would allege some silly religious conspiracy or something, but all of our teaching standards have been falling at rather shocking rates. And, for the record, I was introduced to the basics of the scientific method (and skepticism) in first grade. I was also taught how to write and publish narrative, how to sing, how to join wood, and a host of other skills that I still use all the time. I seriously wonder if that makes my education increasingly unique. Kids are being passed through grades regardless of total and final marks, simply because the system has become far too overloaded to handle the individualized attention some students require. Being skipped ahead grades, but given coursework for previous grades still doesn't alleviate the forceful rush of pushing them through. A lot of the pressure is speculatively said to come from parents - particularly those who feel their child can do no wrong, or those who feel their child is entitled to a higher education, regardless of what they may or may not actually learn. Shiva.Onorgul said: » Bahamut.Kara said: » I did not realize that there was such controversy over hypothesis testing. Do they not teach the scientific method in schools anymore? I would allege some silly religious conspiracy or something, but all of our teaching standards have been falling at rather shocking rates. And, for the record, I was introduced to the basics of the scientific method (and skepticism) in first grade. I was also taught how to write and publish narrative, how to sing, how to join wood, and a host of other skills that I still use all the time. I seriously wonder if that makes my education increasingly unique. Elitist. Bahamut.Kara said: » I did not realize that there was such controversy over hypothesis testing. Do they not teach the scientific method in schools anymore? I can't speak for the rest of the world, but in America, there's a huge push to put creationism and evolution on the same intellectual and academic level. Does that put the situation in context?
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I'm wondering how god made it's way into this discussion... no one has said anything resembling "there is no global warming or there is global warming because god not humans"
I may not be recalling correctly but I don't ever recall the mention of god in the debate on climate change... so yeah... Asura.Kingnobody said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Send a sensory device the size of a small car to a planet 30 million miles away: "Yeah, that's cool. Why not?" Discover previously unconfirmed elementary constituents of matter by smashing particles together at near light speeds: "Wow, science can do such interesting things!" Describe and predict current and future climate deviations from baseline levels based on well-substantiated physical theory and supported by enormous amounts of observational evidence: "NOW HOLD THE *** PHONE SAVE THAT ***FOR SYFY MOVIES SCIENCE IS DUMB IT'S COLD IN MY ROOM THEREFORE POTATO" But then again, for you, hypothesis = fact. He also must believe that science (AKA hypothesis testing) did these things and not Engineering. Lye said: » I always told undergrads that science is a verb, not a noun. It's a sort of anti-mysticism: make it seem so mundane as to be beneath even the dumbest puddle of diarrhea listing through a gutter. At least when you write delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, you give the appearance of knowing what the hell you're saying and intrigue interest in finding out what was just said. Lakshmi.Flavin said: » I'm wondering how god made it's way into this discussion... no one has said anything resembling "there is no global warming or there is global warming because god not humans" I may not be recalling correctly but I don't ever recall the mention of god in the debate on climate change... so yeah... Lye said: » ***Secretly I'm waiting for some nut to say: "God intends for things to get warmer." ***
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Shiva.Onorgul said: » Shiva.Nikolce said: » I can see Pleebo carrying all of us stoopids on his shoulders, like atlas... except not in a tidy spherical mass but just a huge pile of writhing idiotic bodies trying to wrestle themselves free so they can fall into a pit of lava... You'll never save me alive!!!! <kersploonk... sizzle!!!!> Altimaomega said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Send a sensory device the size of a small car to a planet 30 million miles away: "Yeah, that's cool. Why not?" Discover previously unconfirmed elementary constituents of matter by smashing particles together at near light speeds: "Wow, science can do such interesting things!" Describe and predict current and future climate deviations from baseline levels based on well-substantiated physical theory and supported by enormous amounts of observational evidence: "NOW HOLD THE *** PHONE SAVE THAT ***FOR SYFY MOVIES SCIENCE IS DUMB IT'S COLD IN MY ROOM THEREFORE POTATO" But then again, for you, hypothesis = fact. He also must believe that science (AKA hypothesis testing) did these things and not Engineering. My god, stick to milk.
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: » I'm wondering how god made it's way into this discussion... no one has said anything resembling "there is no global warming or there is global warming because god not humans" I may not be recalling correctly but I don't ever recall the mention of god in the debate on climate change... so yeah... Look, keep your beak out of this inevitable clash between the forces of gay liberals trying to summon their primals with climate change science and the righteous forces of machine gun christ armed with bibles, feelings and more oil money than a saudi oil sheikh. All we need to do is distract these fools just a bit longer and we'll summon Al Gore even more powerful than our last encounter. All will bow before the Lord of the Internet. Altimaomega said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Send a sensory device the size of a small car to a planet 30 million miles away: "Yeah, that's cool. Why not?" Discover previously unconfirmed elementary constituents of matter by smashing particles together at near light speeds: "Wow, science can do such interesting things!" Describe and predict current and future climate deviations from baseline levels based on well-substantiated physical theory and supported by enormous amounts of observational evidence: "NOW HOLD THE *** PHONE SAVE THAT ***FOR SYFY MOVIES SCIENCE IS DUMB IT'S COLD IN MY ROOM THEREFORE POTATO" But then again, for you, hypothesis = fact. He also must believe that science (AKA hypothesis testing) did these things and not Engineering. What the hell do you think engineering is if it is not science?
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Altimaomega said: » Asura.Kingnobody said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Send a sensory device the size of a small car to a planet 30 million miles away: "Yeah, that's cool. Why not?" Discover previously unconfirmed elementary constituents of matter by smashing particles together at near light speeds: "Wow, science can do such interesting things!" Describe and predict current and future climate deviations from baseline levels based on well-substantiated physical theory and supported by enormous amounts of observational evidence: "NOW HOLD THE *** PHONE SAVE THAT ***FOR SYFY MOVIES SCIENCE IS DUMB IT'S COLD IN MY ROOM THEREFORE POTATO" But then again, for you, hypothesis = fact. He also must believe that science (AKA hypothesis testing) did these things and not Engineering. Holy hell, science is the underpinnings and foundation of engineering. You don't have engineers slap ***together and say meh, all scientific principles say the bridge will collapse, but we'll build it like that anyway.
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There is enough evidence to reasonably assume that climate change is being expedited by human activity. That being said, it's really, really stupid to assume that the methods used to study it are above critique. The study that Pleebo posted has flaws. Frick, my field of study more or less revolves around finding flaws in studies where scientists tried as hard as possible to follow correct procedures but blow it due to false assumptions and methods. Pretending that any study is above critique is as stupid as outright denying everything it says.
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