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U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds
By Altimaomega 2014-05-13 14:41:38
Well, you can never reason with radicals, so everything is moot at this point anyway.
Speaking of radicals, a segment of the right wing is organizing a march on washington to demand their country back and they claim to be drawing 10 million people, possibly up to 30 million people.
Are you going to march with them? back from what?
Do you live in a hole?
By Jetackuu 2014-05-13 14:41:42
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »protesting nowadays doesn't work like how it used to and for the most part are just considered another form of entertainment..
Right.... No.
Protesting means you're willing to give something up for your cause. It's far easier to sit on the sidelines and be cynical than to get down in the trenches, risk being jailed, beaten or whatever the status quo can conjure up to make your life uncomfortable.
Protesting does work. You just need to be ready for some less-than-ideal circumstances. need to be a bit unreasonable, as it were
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-05-13 14:41:49
Pretty sure I was handed this title earlier in this thread! I suppose I'd be willing to share the honor with KN.
Not by me.
Do you think the two statements are comparable?
By Jetackuu 2014-05-13 14:42:11
Well, you can never reason with radicals, so everything is moot at this point anyway.
Speaking of radicals, a segment of the right wing is organizing a march on washington to demand their country back and they claim to be drawing 10 million people, possibly up to 30 million people.
Are you going to march with them? back from what?
Do you live in a hole? debatable, but I hear this argument quite often, yet nobody really can answer it.
I mean did the british take back their colony or something? Are we a colony of our Hat or butt? Did Red Dawn happen?
It's empty HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE rhetoric that only ignorant fools buy into.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-05-13 14:42:13
Well, you can never reason with radicals, so everything is moot at this point anyway.
Speaking of radicals, a segment of the right wing is organizing a march on washington to demand their country back and they claim to be drawing 10 million people, possibly up to 30 million people.
Are you going to march with them? back from what?
From the gay liberal scumbags and their Muslim caliph.
Nah, it'll be alot of different people with different reasons to protest. I imagine everything from gun rights to abortion right down the line to your batshit insane theocrats.
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By Altimaomega 2014-05-13 14:43:42
Pretty sure I was handed this title earlier in this thread! I suppose I'd be willing to share the honor with KN.
Not by me.
Do you think the two statements are comparable?
I think they was made in the same context.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-05-13 14:43:48
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Well, you can never reason with radicals, so everything is moot at this point anyway.
Speaking of radicals, a segment of the right wing is organizing a march on washington to demand their country back and they claim to be drawing 10 million people, possibly up to 30 million people.
Are you going to march with them? back from what?
From the gay liberal scumbags and their Muslim caliph.
Nah, it'll be alot of different people with different reasons to protest. I imagine everything from gun rights to abortion right down the line to your batshit insane theocrats. I eagerly await that thread.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-13 14:43:57
I wish I lived in a hole. Those hobbit style houses are quite energy efficient, especially when it comes to heating and cooling.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-05-13 14:44:26
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »protesting nowadays doesn't work like how it used to and for the most part are just considered another form of entertainment..
Right.... No.
Protesting means you're willing to give something up for your cause. It's far easier to sit on the sidelines and be cynical than to get down in the trenches, risk being jailed, beaten or whatever the status quo can conjure up to make your life uncomfortable.
Protesting does work. You just need to be ready for some less-than-ideal circumstances.
Protesting first and foremost means you don't have to work that day...
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By Jetackuu 2014-05-13 14:44:56
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »I wish I lived in a hole. Those hobbit style houses are quite energy efficient, especially when it comes to heating and cooling. right?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-05-13 14:45:49
ahh yes the old you have to be an unemployed twit sucking on the government teet to protest soemthing... Sweet...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-05-13 14:46:34
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »protesting nowadays doesn't work like how it used to and for the most part are just considered another form of entertainment..
Right.... No.
Protesting means you're willing to give something up for your cause. It's far easier to sit on the sidelines and be cynical than to get down in the trenches, risk being jailed, beaten or whatever the status quo can conjure up to make your life uncomfortable.
Protesting does work. You just need to be ready for some less-than-ideal circumstances.
Protesting first and foremost means you don't have to work that day...
Because you can't take a day off to champion something you believe in?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-13 14:46:34
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »protesting nowadays doesn't work like how it used to and for the most part are just considered another form of entertainment..
Right.... No.
Protesting means you're willing to give something up for your cause. It's far easier to sit on the sidelines and be cynical than to get down in the trenches, risk being jailed, beaten or whatever the status quo can conjure up to make your life uncomfortable.
Protesting does work. You just need to be ready for some less-than-ideal circumstances.
Protesting first and foremost means you don't have to work that day... It also means you forfeit your income to protest something you happen to be against strongly enough to say "hey, I like money, but I dislike this even more than I like my money and my job"
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-05-13 14:46:40
I think they was made in the same context.
Well then you're up there, especially considering how other people on your side answered it without feeling such sentiment.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-05-13 14:48:01
either way, if you take a personal day or can survive without the income, you don't have to work that day.
By Altimaomega 2014-05-13 14:49:22
Well, you can never reason with radicals, so everything is moot at this point anyway.
Speaking of radicals, a segment of the right wing is organizing a march on washington to demand their country back and they claim to be drawing 10 million people, possibly up to 30 million people.
Are you going to march with them? back from what?
Do you live in a hole? debatable, but I hear this argument quite often, yet nobody really can answer it.
I mean did the british take back their colony or something? Are we a colony of our Hat or butt? Did Red Dawn happen?
It's empty HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE rhetoric that only ignorant fools buy into.
It could be, but what if 2-3mil people headed to Washington the day before. Do you think the number would get even bigger the next day? Could 10mil people in Washington make a difference?
Wouldn't it be awesome if 10mil people went to Washington tossed out congress and the president and we started over?
Sure it sounds HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but hey it kinda happened before in 1775-1776.
By Jetackuu 2014-05-13 14:49:43
It's pretty easy to get along with your enemy if they're dead.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-05-13 14:51:00
In 1776 we went to Washington tossed out Congress, the President and started over? What the *** have I been reading, Jeffersonian fanfics?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-13 14:51:24
What's this about a protest of 10million people? where and when? I'd love to sell them some ideas. I've been waiting for a good protest to go on.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-13 14:51:58
Or, by putting two enemies in the same room, they could bludgeon each other to death, or until one gives up.
because putting two people in the same room has always had a positive outcome.
The ideal way to resolve an issue (you can confront someone and still get along, derp) is to sit them down, and talk it over calmly by finding some middle ground, and learning to respect different opinions within the context of reasonability.
"We can disagree, and be cool about it, yo" kind of works better.
By Altimaomega 2014-05-13 14:52:16
I think they was made in the same context.
Well then you're up there, especially considering how other people on your side answered it without feeling such sentiment.
Sentiment is for the weak and breeds sheep for followers.
By Altimaomega 2014-05-13 14:53:15
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »In 1776 we went to Washington tossed out Congress, the President and started over? What the *** have I been reading, Jeffersonian fanfics?
I said kinda and hit the bold button!
FFS lol
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-05-13 14:53:42
Yeah first day you'll get 2-3 million, then 7 million, then maybe 125 million the third day.
The largest march in US history was for women's right and it turned out 800-1.1 million people.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-13 14:54:05
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Or, by putting two enemies in the same room, they could bludgeon each other to death, or until one gives up.
because putting two people in the same room has always had a positive outcome.
The ideal way to resolve an issue (you can confront someone and still get along, derp) is to sit them down, and talk it over calmly by finding some middle ground, and learning to respect different opinions within the context of reasonability.
"We can disagree, and be cool about it, yo" kind of works better. Except for radicals.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-13 14:55:26
Even it's a few hundred people that's fine. I just need a large crowd gathered for whatever purpose.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-05-13 14:58:11
Well, you can never reason with radicals, so everything is moot at this point anyway.
Speaking of radicals, a segment of the right wing is organizing a march on washington to demand their country back and they claim to be drawing 10 million people, possibly up to 30 million people.
Are you going to march with them? back from what?
Do you live in a hole? debatable, but I hear this argument quite often, yet nobody really can answer it.
I mean did the british take back their colony or something? Are we a colony of our Hat or butt? Did Red Dawn happen?
It's empty HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE rhetoric that only ignorant fools buy into.
It could be, but what if 2-3mil people headed to Washington the day before. Do you think the number would get even bigger the next day? Could 10mil people in Washington make a difference?
Wouldn't it be awesome if 10mil people went to Washington tossed out congress and the president and we started over?
Sure it sounds HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but hey it kinda happened before in 1775-1776.
The Articles of Confederation did not end with a revolution.
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By Altimaomega 2014-05-13 14:58:24
Yeah first day you'll get 2-3 million, then 7 million, then maybe 125 million the third day.
The largest march in US history was for women's right and it turned out 800-1.1 million people.
Thats the point. they are saying 10mil. IF I hear of 2mil OTW, you bet your *** im getting in my Jeep and heading that way. Its not gonna be some cute little protest.
But yea if 5-6k people show up ill be surprised ><
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-05-13 14:58:47
I think they was made in the same context.
Well then you're up there, especially considering how other people on your side answered it without feeling such sentiment.
Sentiment is for the weak and breeds sheep for followers.
What 'how other people on your side answered it without feeling such sentiment.' means is that other people on your side have answered the question without thinking there's some kind of baggage that comes along with it.
Do you know what 'baggage' means? I don't mean actual luggage.
By Altimaomega 2014-05-13 15:00:02
Well, you can never reason with radicals, so everything is moot at this point anyway.
Speaking of radicals, a segment of the right wing is organizing a march on washington to demand their country back and they claim to be drawing 10 million people, possibly up to 30 million people.
Are you going to march with them? back from what?
Do you live in a hole? debatable, but I hear this argument quite often, yet nobody really can answer it.
I mean did the british take back their colony or something? Are we a colony of our Hat or butt? Did Red Dawn happen?
It's empty HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE rhetoric that only ignorant fools buy into.
It could be, but what if 2-3mil people headed to Washington the day before. Do you think the number would get even bigger the next day? Could 10mil people in Washington make a difference?
Wouldn't it be awesome if 10mil people went to Washington tossed out congress and the president and we started over?
Sure it sounds HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE but hey it kinda happened before in 1775-1776.
The Articles of Confederation did not end with a revolution.
FFS people I should not have to make a essay long post referencing the revolution just to make a comment. Lighten the *** up.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/07/science/earth/climate-change-report.html?_r=3
A very extensive report, known as the National Climate Assessment, was released earlier this week. Nothing in the report is particularly surprising, but its presentation for the general public, here, is incredibly impressive. (Not all government website releases are a disaster!)
If hardcore technical reports aren't your thing, the highlights portion of the site breaks each section down as plainly as possible, is extensively cited, and makes no secret the level of uncertainty inherent in current findings. The site is really quite fantastic, and I would encourage anyone with genuine interest, skepticism, and/or curiosity in U.S. climate change to fuck around in it for a while. (Of course, if well-substantiated, easily digestible scientific communications aren't your thing, there's always this.)
Perhaps, the most poignant message arising from the report is summarized in this quote from the article:
Quote: The report pointed out that while the country as a whole still had no comprehensive climate legislation, many states and cities had begun to take steps to limit emissions and to adapt to climatic changes that can no longer be avoided. But the report found that these efforts were inadequate. I don't really consider myself a policy person so... what do?
Edit: Also of note is the high diversity of those involved. Largely scientists, of course, but representative of a wide swath of interests, including some oil companies.
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