RMT'S

I say if you are not affecting other players game play cheat your *** off. Ppl who think cheating is bad are idiots...go play some other game and hate somewhere else. Now if your getting beat to let's say tiamat or something because someone is flee hacking and claiming it over you then yes, they deserve to get banned. Otherwise, things like gear swap actually help ppl in the game. I mean u could hit like 10 macros to swap gear n crap, but screw that.

No.

We commit violations of the games rule: using windower, using scripts, addon/plugins, so we cheat (actually, you, i play on xbox <.<), but we remain silent because we are accomplish of the crime. Its dumb to complain against someone else when we are the same.

BUT just because we are the same as rmt dont mean suddenly cheating is good. Cheating is wrong, dont try to convince yourself or others of a lie.

Just accept the truth, and the penalty of our actions, if someday we are judged. Just dont pretend that using third party like "everyone" does makes that a legal tool.

That would be more like the percentage of NA/EU people NOT using windower ...

Even JPs have been using it ... I think there's less amongst them using it though.

I don't give the f*ck if you call me a cheater. I cheat, I am not trying to say or convince myself that I don't. And if you don't like it, go eat a bowl of ***. That being said...I do have morals and will never affect others by it

Can you back this up somehow? Not saying you're wrong, just curious where the game stands right now.

Let me give an hypothetic example of how cheating can be bad for other people playing the game around cheating players:
(not that I particularly care about what you think or how you feel about others hating you for cheating, but I am being practical on this reply...)

2006, The Boyahda Tree zone. Person A has Windower and the infamous "eye" plugin thing on his game. Person B is playing on a Playstation 2.

Person A is a thief/nin, has flee and because of the said plugin he can see where the treasure coffers pop on the map using the widescan function (enabled by the plugin, not available for that job combo and which isn't even supposed to show coffer positions on it).

Person B is trying to pop the coffer for AF quest. Person A want the gillies and crafting items eventually it drop. While waiting on pops for the treasure coffer person A spends time playing with the Goobbues for boyahda moss.

So person A knows the chest timer and has a plugin which warns him when and where the chest pops. Person A monopolizes coffer chest making person B unable of progressing their game objective.

Tell me how fair it is for person B who need the chest for the AF item ? If person A is a jerk, person B never stands a chance besides wait until person A is done. And then person B will still have to compete with the other players in the zone, cheaters or not.

And then you get angry when people dislike cheating ... All right.

Based on my personal group of friends, I know most of them do use Windower.

I am one "of the few odd ones" playing the game vanilla.

That doesn't matter much of course. Some of my friends like plugins like these tools for quick gear swapping, others use GuildWork but then if you go to my profile you will see that my merits and atma lists were entered manually and aren't accounted for achievements exactly because I don't use Windower.

That was probably a valid complaint in 2006 but nowadays it's quite possible to be the only player in a zone for hours at a time. Also I think the comment about not affecting others by it implies that the player is not taking advantages when other players are present. (Although any form of botting where generation of gil is involved probably does impact other players negatively - but maybe less now since so much gil has already been generated.)

Like I said, if your not effecting other players with your cheats then who cares. If you are be ready for the ban hammer eventually. I remember back in the hnm days when all those people would call us cheaters for claiming kings, and when the hacked list's came out of all the cheater came out, just about every one of the people complaining about cheaters were on the list. It was funny as Hell...also SE should have ended support for the ps2 and Xbox long ago, it has held the game back for too long as far as graphics and how many zones they can have

This thread is a mess

Isn't there a cool down on how fast you can re open a chest solely because of this reason?

I believe SE fixed this like years ago (With Skeleton keys definitely)

Coffeur is 5 mins cooldown for AF, around 45 mins for others rewards.

Excitement in Sea Serpent Grotto? See ya there! :)

That doesn't matter much because I took the coffer situation as an example. Also, I set the time taking in consideration it eventually got fixed.

Anyway a cheating player could be taking advantage at monster fighting, mining or harvesting spots, anything... The problem with online games like this is that the game has a limit of resources it "generate" over a given time frame, if a player is cheating to take shortcuts at anything, the said resources will be deduced from what will be available to non cheating players. Obvious argument anyway.

At this point, people still monopolize voidwalker NMs (mostly stuff for magian trials are affected by this currently). At least the "eye" cheat cannot be used for that anymore because the "walking" part of the nms behavior was moved to server side (aka: server no longer broadcast to all clients in the zone the position where the monster is at) which gives "normal" players more chances at a pop.

I'm a bit more depressed now than I was before I wrote this ... I suppose I'll go back to my mindless RoE sparks farming ... >.>

Dont give up Slyshen!

ftfy

Thank you, thank you! /bow

Brings back fond memories of my first time being mpked by RMT.
I tried to move away from the hordes of sahagin running with Novv the whitehearted on my tail but Delightfu the chinese farmer was faster and links occured. I managed to CFH before sputtering my last breath but as I lay there I see it made no difference in the end.

Why can't I get a shoutout from Starcade anyway?

Damn you Draylo! What's your secret?

another thread bites the dust etc...

Speaking of... I miss his frequent blogging... sadly he's posting like once a month now, was entertaining reads.

Come to leviathan, every time there is a update he seems to pop up so he can hope all the 3PP stuff is broken and be happy for the few hours that some of the stuff does not work.

Also i watched this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152828/ , and all i could think of the whole time was starcade.

On leviathan we also get the treat of his /yells about once a month.

Fell Cleave, as in the sale of exp for gil.

Let's not light the Starcade signal.

On leviathan we like the starcade signal, we take shifts and make sure it is fully operational.