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Random Politics & Religion #00
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 11:21:51
I didn't say kill each other but if it's me or you you already know the answer pilgrim !
Everyone is quick to say Muslim this or Muslim that this guy would have killed people with or without religion.
At some point you have to start to wonder what part of it is religion and what part is just someone who wanted to get violent already and just needed an excuse and a little push.
Terrorist leaders are really good at providing the excuse and the little push.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 11:22:16
Newsflash people were killing each other long before religion ever was a thing.
Blasphemy!
Literally! GOD ALWAYS WAS.
By fonewear 2015-12-04 11:22:28
Newsflash people were killing each other long before religion ever was a thing.
Blasphemy!
Ok you give me proof of a non violent caveman and I"ll show you the very first hippie ever !
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 11:22:57
Remember kids. Jesus may have been a socialist, but God was a Libertarian, because he made himself.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 11:29:54
Ok you give me proof of a non violent caveman and I"ll show you the very first hippie ever !
The inventor of the feel.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-04 11:31:30
It is survival of the fittest Fittest doesn't mean devourer. That's not how you apply that sentence.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 11:35:00
It is survival of the fittest Fittest doesn't mean devourer. That's not how you apply that sentence.
Don't you tell me what I can and can't eat! You're not my nutritionist!
By fonewear 2015-12-04 11:39:02
It is survival of the fittest Fittest doesn't mean devourer. That's not how you apply that sentence.
I'm sure I missed it but Darwin wrote extensively about how animals don't kill each other and eat them to survive.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-12-04 11:59:54
I'm not trying to deflect away from ISIS. I just can't stand the assertion that Muslim radicals are the only terrorists out there and everyone else is just 'one isolated lunatic.'
Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Radical Islam is a virus.
Radical anything is a virus.
It is very different. It is a very organized movement and their tactics are killing random civilians.
Your entire reply that said you were not deflecting away from ISIS WAS A HUGE DEFLECTION AWAY FROM ISIS.
You are paralyzed by Islamaphobiaphobia: the fear of being labeled an Islamaphobe.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-04 12:09:11
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Islamaphobiaphobia Naw, I suffer from Islamaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobia, the fear of being accused of being accused of being accused of being accused of being an Islamaphobe.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-04 12:18:51
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I'm not trying to deflect away from ISIS. I just can't stand the assertion that Muslim radicals are the only terrorists out there and everyone else is just 'one isolated lunatic.'
Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Radical Islam is a virus.
Radical anything is a virus.
It is very different. It is a very organized movement and their tactics are killing random civilians.
Your entire reply that said you were not deflecting away from ISIS WAS A HUGE DEFLECTION AWAY FROM ISIS.
You are paralyzed by Islamaphobiaphobia: the fear of being labeled an Islamaphobe.
Hey the attorney general is out threatening to prosecute those engaged in hate speech against Muslims and telling parents of Islamic children to contact Washington if their kids get bullied because they are part of "the religion of peace".
Ramy is just following the lead out of Washington, I mean if the Muslims hate us, we have to care and we have to have done something to deserve it.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 12:20:22
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I'm not trying to deflect away from ISIS. I just can't stand the assertion that Muslim radicals are the only terrorists out there and everyone else is just 'one isolated lunatic.'
Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Radical Islam is a virus.
Radical anything is a virus.
It is very different. It is a very organized movement and their tactics are killing random civilians.
Your entire reply that said you were not deflecting away from ISIS WAS A HUGE DEFLECTION AWAY FROM ISIS.
You are paralyzed by Islamaphobiaphobia: the fear of being labeled an Islamaphobe.
I hate Islam as much as I hate every other religion.
Which is to say entirely or not at all, I just rue it's influence depending on how much it's infringing on my own freedoms.
*edited to be more correct.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 12:21:49
Ramy is just following the lead out of Washington, I mean if the Muslims hate us, we have to care and we have to have done something to deserve it.
There you go with your inflammatory language again trying to provoke. Next thing you know I'll say something snarky and you'll be whining that I'm hurling insults. When all I'm doing is saying I refuse to denounce all Muslims because of their extremists.
I denounce their religion as a whole on principle, same as Christianity, Egyptian Mythology, or Norse beliefs (sadly), because they're simple stories from a simple time and were created to control populations and lend a certainty to a world they didn't understand.
But I don't hate them. In truth I misspoke just now because I don't ever hate the religion itself. Many of them are beautiful and fascinating, even in their fictional state. I can be resentful of them for what they incite in people, but to hate them as they stand is a bit naïve.
But no, you're right. All Muslims hate us. Mohammed said it. It's right in the book.
"Don't eat pork."
"Pray toward Mecca."
"*** AMERICA."
I'm not trying to deflect ANYTHING, and when I and others try to point out to some of you that your own beliefs have extremist representatives that you should also denounce, you refuse to do so citing they're not part of your religion or belief structure.
Which is really freakin' funny coming from someone who won't let peaceful Muslims denounce radical Muslims as not true parts of their belief structure.
*This post has been edited for grammar and clarification.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-04 12:26:28
Ramy is just following the lead out of Washington, I mean if the Muslims hate us, we have to care and we have to have done something to deserve it.
There you go with your inflammatory language again trying to provoke. Next thing you know I'll say something snarky and you'll be whining that I'm hurling insults. When all I'm doing is saying I refuse to denounce all Muslims because of their extremists.
I denounce their religion as a whole on principle, same as Christianity, Egyptian Mythology, or Norse beliefs (sadly), because they're simple stories from a simple time and were created to control populations and lend a certainty to a world they didn't understand.
But I don't hate them. In truth I misspoke just now because I don't ever hate the religion itself. Many of them are beautiful and fascinating, even in their fictional state. I can be resentful of them for what they incite in people, but to hate them as they stand is a bit naïve.
But no, you're right. All Muslims hate us. Mohammed said it. It's right in the book.
"Don't eat pork."
"Pray toward Mecca."
"*** AMERICA." Actually, it's "DEATH TO AMERICA." If you can't get it right, get out!
Unless you are using the translated version of the Qu'ran.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-04 12:26:34
Hey the attorney general is out threatening to prosecute those engaged in hate speech against Muslims and telling parents of Islamic children to contact Washington if their kids get bullied because they are part of "the religion of peace".
Ramy is just following the lead out of Washington, I mean if the Muslims hate us, we have to care and we have to have done something to deserve it. I know! Like, since when has the government ever been involved in protecting the free practice of religion.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-04 12:27:15
Today you made a powerful enemy. *shakes fist*
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 12:27:54
Today you made a powerful enemy. *shakes fist*
Anubis and I are chill, it's cool.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-04 12:30:10
Hey the attorney general is out threatening to prosecute those engaged in hate speech against Muslims and telling parents of Islamic children to contact Washington if their kids get bullied because they are part of "the religion of peace".
Ramy is just following the lead out of Washington, I mean if the Muslims hate us, we have to care and we have to have done something to deserve it. I know! Like, since when has the government ever been involved in protecting the free practice of religion. We all know that what they mean by free practice of religion, they mean to give them tax free status.
That's about as free as it's going to get. Time to set up a registry for Muslims, to protect them about as much as setting up concentration camps internment camps for the Japanese during WWII. You know, to "protect" them.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 12:30:30
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Islamaphobiaphobia Naw, I suffer from Islamaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobia, the fear of being accused of being accused of being accused of being accused of being an Islamaphobe.
I suffer from a very sexy learning disability.
Sexlexia!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-04 12:31:25
Today you made a powerful enemy. *shakes fist*
Anubis and I are chill, it's cool. *** Anubis, it's Ra that you got to be in good terms with.
You know, sun god and all that.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-04 12:32:09
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Islamaphobiaphobia Naw, I suffer from Islamaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobiaphobia, the fear of being accused of being accused of being accused of being accused of being an Islamaphobe.
I suffer from a very sexy learning disability.
Sexlexia! There's another word for it, it's called "virgin"
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-04 12:32:19
internment camps for the Japanese during WWII I initially misread as "internet camps" and it left me wondering.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-12-04 12:32:25
I'm not afraid of a religion that say's that I MUST be beheaded... Nope, not afraid at all.
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By Leviathan.Vienne 2015-12-04 12:37:14
I hate when we get at that point that everything starts to evolve around being politically correct.
You just cant generalise Islam, muslims learn the interpretation of the koran by their imams, very few make up their own mind about it. I know muslims who never pray....but they dont eat pork
I know muslims who eat pork...but who dont drink
I know muslims who eat pork, never pray and who do drink
I dont know any muslims who live by all the islamic rules
My mom calls herself a catholic, she never goes to church, yet she still whines my head off bout my kids not being baptized.
just trying to say, Its not the religion which is the problem, its the extreme ideas that are being planted in minds.
I dont think bombing is a solution, it just means big collateral damage which just makes future generations even more bitter.
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 12:44:49
internment camps for the Japanese during WWII I initially misread as "internet camps" and it left me wondering.
They were treated to the finest 21st century luxuries during their imprisonment safekeeping.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-12-04 12:50:30
Who draws lines in sand, anyhow?
I mean, the wind blows and that ***is gone anyhow so unless you remember exactly where you drew it, and draw it again, and again, and again...
Stupid idiom in the first place. It isn't meant to be a permanent delineation, but an momentary delineation/declaration.
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-04 12:52:02
Who draws lines in sand, anyhow?
I mean, the wind blows and that ***is gone anyhow so unless you remember exactly where you drew it, and draw it again, and again, and again...
Stupid idiom in the first place. It isn't meant to be a permanent delineation, but an momentary delineation/declaration.
You may be reading too much into my deliberately concrete interpretation. Or not enough.
Or...something.
*** is it time to go home yet?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-12-04 12:52:22
Remember kids. Jesus may have been a socialist, but God was a Libertarian, because he made himself. Bootstrap this! -God
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-04 12:54:15
Remember kids. Jesus may have been a socialist, but God was a Libertarian, because he made himself. Bootstrap this! -God I didn't know that God was part of the 1%.
I mean, that's the rhetoric people assume us rich folks state...
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