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Random Politics & Religion #00
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-12-17 16:50:04
Something like America's most hated man arrested on fraud Obama was arrested for fraud??? Eh, Obama isn't the most hated, he's just not really good at this job or being a leader, which is kinda what he should be doing, or at minimum find some little thing that can unite all people on some small scale... idk, I wouldn't labeled him as being most hated, just not very good at being president. I'm pretty sure more people hate Obama than Schilling Shkreli. Hell, I would be surprised if people knew who he was.
Either Schilling or Shkreli.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-12-17 16:51:16
Later Obama says ISIS is hiding out in Alaska with Sara Palin.
Of course they are. That's how they spy on the Russians.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-17 16:52:39
I would hope Obama would be working on something more important than learning "how to drink your own piss."
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-17 16:53:06
Something like America's most hated man arrested on fraud Obama was arrested for fraud??? Eh, Obama isn't the most hated, he's just not really good at this job or being a leader, which is kinda what he should be doing, or at minimum find some little thing that can unite all people on some small scale... idk, I wouldn't labeled him as being most hated, just not very good at being president. I'm pretty sure more people hate Obama than Schilling Shkreli. Hell, I would be surprised if people knew who he was.
Either Schilling or Shkreli. Eh, fair point.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-17 17:22:11
I would hope Obama would be working on something more important than learning "how to drink your own piss." Is that *** eating crackers again like he owns the place?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-17 17:34:04
I would hope Obama would be working on something more important than learning "how to drink your own piss." Is that *** eating crackers again like he owns the place? Naw, like I said it's not hate, it's more disappointment than anything.
By fonewear 2015-12-17 17:38:24
I would hope Obama would be working on something more important than learning "how to drink your own piss."
Thread is getting a bit crazy better drink my own piss !
By fonewear 2015-12-17 17:41:42
In case you guys don't watch bear (you should) this is the thing:
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-17 17:51:02
In other news, California has determined that aloe vera extract causes cancer. I thought that stuff was supposed to be good for the skin or something like that... guess not, unless it's not what I'm thinking.
SourceShame the link doesn't include the actual study. Seems that CA automatically labels a substance as carcinogenic if the International Agency for Research on Cancer deems it "possibly carcinogenic to humans". Would've been interesting to read the actual report. Think it was already known to be carcinogenic when ingested though. I had not looked deeply into this story or the research, I was just taken back by the mention of aloe vera extract linked to cancer.
Really the only thing I know about it, is from what I used to hear in lotion commercials when I used to watch TV shows with commercials.
At one point a long time ago I though it was some chemical or ooze that came out of the plant that helped to moisturize skin or sooth burned skin, but now I'm confused if that's what this is or if this is something else as the extract part may or may not be the defining difference.
This is one of the those topics where I can't even pretend to know what I'm talking about without some research. I was hoping by dumb luck somebody would have thrown some clarification around.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-17 18:02:07
Aloe vera Non-Decolorized Whole Leaf Extract-Induced Large Intestinal Tumors in F344 Rats Share Similar Molecular Pathways with Human Sporadic Colorectal TumorsAloe vera is one of the most commonly used botanicals for various prophylactic and therapeutic purposes. Recently, NTP/NCTR has demonstrated a dose-dependent increase in large intestinal tumors in F344 rats chronically exposed to Aloe barbadensis Miller (Aloe vera) non-decolorized whole leaf extract (AVNWLE) in drinking water. The morphological and molecular pathways of AVNWLE-induced large intestinal tumors in the F344 rats were compared to human colorectal cancer (hCRC) literature. Defined histological criteria were used to compare AVNWLE-induced large intestinal tumors with hCRC. The commonly mutated genes (Kras, Ctnnb1, and Tp53) and altered signaling pathways (MAPK, WNT, and TGF-β) important in hCRC were evaluated within AVNWLE-induced large intestinal tumors. Histological evaluation of the large intestinal tumors indicated eight of twelve adenomas (Ads) and four of twelve carcinomas (Cas). Mutation analysis of eight Ads and four Cas identified point mutations in exons 1 and 2 of the Kras gene (two of eight Ads, two of four Cas), and in exon 2 of the Ctnnb1 gene (three of eight Ads, one of four Cas). No Tp53 (exons 5–8) mutations were found in Ads or Cas. Molecular pathways important in hCRC such as MAPK, WNT, and TGF-β signaling were also altered in AVNWLE-induced Ads and Cas. In conclusion, the AVNWLE-induced large intestinal tumors in F344 rats share several similarities with hCRC at the morphological and molecular levels. Basically, they loaded up some mice with a particular kind of extract (non-decolorized) to grow tumors and found some similarities between the cancer pathways of the animal and humans. /shrug
By charlo999 2015-12-17 18:56:30
Here is a roundup of the opinion poll survey and its findings that were talked about earlier.
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Simpleton video for the simple minded. Things as messy as the current state of the world don't just happen. There is history and nuance to it. If you want to be a simpleton that's your choice, but keep out of history and politics because it is anything but simple. That type of thinking and idiocy is what perpetuates it. Its part of the problem, not the solution.
Lets first differentiate between the acts that are all lumped together as acts of terrorism. (call me crazy)
82% of the world's "terrorism" occurs in 5 countries.
Iraq : In a state of Civil war. In the Iraqi/Iranian War, the US armed Sadam Hussein's Bathist regime to serve as a regional counterweight to the growing influence of Iran. They empowered a totalitarian dictatorship and they had no qualms at the time with him putting down any and all legitimate resistance to his seat in power. All minorities other than the Ba'athist party supporters were oppressed and persecuted. This includes Sunni, Shi'ia and ethnic kurds. Iran itself had deposed their dictator, the Shah. Because the Shah was so unpopular, once he was deposed the islamic revolutionists turned their attention on his greatest beneficator and supporter; the US (Ayotollah Khomani gave them the nickname the "great satan". It is because of this that Sadam Hussein was suddenly the month's flavor. Few who know any history at all will argue agains the fact that the Shah's Iran was the US's closest ally in the region - rivaling the US's special relationship with Israel.
Following the end of the Iraqi/Iranian war Sadam, the madman, soon invaded the peaceful nation of Kuwait after receiving a nod from Washington. The US dragged Saudi Arabia into the conflict by showing the Saudi Government what is the equivelant of photoshopped Satelite images, showing a build up of Iraq's military on the Saudi border. Saudi Arabia gave the US military bases in its borders. Iraq was defeated. It is at this time that an American asset known as Al-Qaeda, who had been training "freedom" fighters in Afghanistan to fight off foreign threats (namely the USSR during the 80's invasion of Afghanistan - which was a proxy point of the cold-war) for the past 20 years, went rogue and turned on the US and the Saudi regime. Their leader, Osama Bin Laden, a highly trained(by the US) and elite saudi billionar made threats that the US chose to ignore.
Iraq suffered defeat, had sanctions put on it for a decade. Almost a million people died (more than 500k children) during this decade due to lack of medical supplies and overall crippling sanctions. But they left Sadam in power.
During the same decade, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan went undisturbed and unchallenged due to their hosts, the ruling regime, Taliban's protection - despite many warnings from the Arab Gulf States.
9/11 happens. The US retaliates by attacking 2 countries that either had absolutely nothing to do with it in Iraq's case, or were not the perpetraitors in Afghanistan's case (taliban =/= al qaeda and afghanistan =/= taliban). Afhganistan itself was already in a state of civil war as the taliban and northern alliance had been in a state of impasse for 6 years. Iraq was sent back to the stone ages. No WMDs were ever found, no relation or connection to 9/11. The world quickly forgot the lies that Collin Powel (he admitted it), Rumsfeld and *** Cheney told the world. Better yet, the Taliban in Afghanistan were never defeated and the population that supported the US turned against them after a decade of internal strife.
The US, installed a sectarian Shiaa regime in Iraq and withdrew its troops. The shiaa pro-Iranian regime made quick work of settling old scores and committed many atrocities, first targeting ex-ba'athist party members and military generals/commanders, then all sunni's became easy prey. This continued for 3 years. During which Sunni's became radicalized and started to form local militias to resist the new Sectarian, Iranian puppet regime. They had great success as they were backed by some Arab regimes who have been at a state of cold war with Iran, since the Shiaa revolution (that's when they kicked out the american puppet Shah).
Al Qaeda in Iraq capitalized on this, and joint the fight against the Shiaa. They gained a lot of footing making use of the momentum. The sunni tribes, who felt abandoned by the US and left to suffer the persecution of the Iranian backed Shiaa regime, had no issues with Al Qaeda killing off their enemies. The Ex-ba'athist joined this alliance, further bolstering it with their knowledge of military warfare. They did so well, that Al Qaeda in Iraq hijacked their political war and turned it into a religious one. (it was sectarian to start with, and now it became full on radicalized extremism with "death to america" as their slogan)
Al Qaeda HQ backed this for a while, and Al Qaeda Iraq began to spread beyond the Iraqi borders into Syria, where the Arab spring had left the Ba'athist Syrian party there weakened. They (Al Qaeda in Iraq) gained such a firm foothold in Syria, they changed their name to Al Qaeda in the levant. They wanted to rise to power in Syria so much, that they started killing all other militias who were also at war with the Ba'athist Asaad regime. At this point Al Qaeda HQ denounced them. So Al Qaeda in the levant rebranded to "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria - but you know them as ISIS".
Now you can call all of the attacks that occur in Iraq and Syria as "acts of terror" or you can call it what it is, a messy and *** up war with too many powers trying to influence its outcome.
If you define the above as acts of terror, fine. But its not the same as the "terrorists" attacks taking place against foreign/western cities. Those are actual terrorists attacks against a population that is not in the place of war.
82% of the terror attacks you are referring to take place in the countries that have been decimated by war/civil war.
The OVERWHELMING majority of terrorist attacks occuring in the US are not by Islamic extremists/radicals/alqaeda or w/e you want to call it. It is homegrown terrorism, as much as 93% if memory serves correctly.
So you can either continue to watch material that makes your world smaller and simpler, or you can grow up and be a human being and start to learn.
Important to note: Syria and Iraq were SECULAR Arab Nations, not Islamic. Their main rivals and enemies were always Islamists such as the Muslim Brotherhood. But that's another story. I don't want your brain to explode with all this information. Its much easier to just "ugh urr islam"
Did you even watch the vid?
By a Sunni Muslim human rights activist woman.
It talks about what the Muslim population thinks about extremist Islam. And the different means the extremist agenda is being pushed. With surveyed data.
Not about which terrorist attacks are islamic or how the wars in the Middle East came about.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-17 19:07:27
they loaded up some mice with a particular kind of extract (non-decolorized) to grow tumors Those whacky scientists!
Ok cool, so that's the gist of it, now we just need a good analogy.
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By Siren.Akson 2015-12-18 00:36:28
Here is a roundup of the opinion poll survey and its findings that were talked about earlier.
YouTube Video Placeholder
Simpleton video for the simple minded. Things as messy as the current state of the world don't just happen. There is history and nuance to it. If you want to be a simpleton that's your choice, but keep out of history and politics because it is anything but simple. That type of thinking and idiocy is what perpetuates it. Its part of the problem, not the solution.
Lets first differentiate between the acts that are all lumped together as acts of terrorism. (call me crazy)
82% of the world's "terrorism" occurs in 5 countries.
Iraq : In a state of Civil war. In the Iraqi/Iranian War, the US armed Sadam Hussein's Bathist regime to serve as a regional counterweight to the growing influence of Iran. They empowered a totalitarian dictatorship and they had no qualms at the time with him putting down any and all legitimate resistance to his seat in power. All minorities other than the Ba'athist party supporters were oppressed and persecuted. This includes Sunni, Shi'ia and ethnic kurds. Iran itself had deposed their dictator, the Shah. Because the Shah was so unpopular, once he was deposed the islamic revolutionists turned their attention on his greatest beneficator and supporter; the US (Ayotollah Khomani gave them the nickname the "great satan". It is because of this that Sadam Hussein was suddenly the month's flavor. Few who know any history at all will argue agains the fact that the Shah's Iran was the US's closest ally in the region - rivaling the US's special relationship with Israel.
Following the end of the Iraqi/Iranian war Sadam, the madman, soon invaded the peaceful nation of Kuwait after receiving a nod from Washington. The US dragged Saudi Arabia into the conflict by showing the Saudi Government what is the equivelant of photoshopped Satelite images, showing a build up of Iraq's military on the Saudi border. Saudi Arabia gave the US military bases in its borders. Iraq was defeated. It is at this time that an American asset known as Al-Qaeda, who had been training "freedom" fighters in Afghanistan to fight off foreign threats (namely the USSR during the 80's invasion of Afghanistan - which was a proxy point of the cold-war) for the past 20 years, went rogue and turned on the US and the Saudi regime. Their leader, Osama Bin Laden, a highly trained(by the US) and elite saudi billionar made threats that the US chose to ignore.
Iraq suffered defeat, had sanctions put on it for a decade. Almost a million people died (more than 500k children) during this decade due to lack of medical supplies and overall crippling sanctions. But they left Sadam in power.
During the same decade, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan went undisturbed and unchallenged due to their hosts, the ruling regime, Taliban's protection - despite many warnings from the Arab Gulf States.
9/11 happens. The US retaliates by attacking 2 countries that either had absolutely nothing to do with it in Iraq's case, or were not the perpetraitors in Afghanistan's case (taliban =/= al qaeda and afghanistan =/= taliban). Afhganistan itself was already in a state of civil war as the taliban and northern alliance had been in a state of impasse for 6 years. Iraq was sent back to the stone ages. No WMDs were ever found, no relation or connection to 9/11. The world quickly forgot the lies that Collin Powel (he admitted it), Rumsfeld and *** Cheney told the world. Better yet, the Taliban in Afghanistan were never defeated and the population that supported the US turned against them after a decade of internal strife.
The US, installed a sectarian Shiaa regime in Iraq and withdrew its troops. The shiaa pro-Iranian regime made quick work of settling old scores and committed many atrocities, first targeting ex-ba'athist party members and military generals/commanders, then all sunni's became easy prey. This continued for 3 years. During which Sunni's became radicalized and started to form local militias to resist the new Sectarian, Iranian puppet regime. They had great success as they were backed by some Arab regimes who have been at a state of cold war with Iran, since the Shiaa revolution (that's when they kicked out the american puppet Shah).
Al Qaeda in Iraq capitalized on this, and joint the fight against the Shiaa. They gained a lot of footing making use of the momentum. The sunni tribes, who felt abandoned by the US and left to suffer the persecution of the Iranian backed Shiaa regime, had no issues with Al Qaeda killing off their enemies. The Ex-ba'athist joined this alliance, further bolstering it with their knowledge of military warfare. They did so well, that Al Qaeda in Iraq hijacked their political war and turned it into a religious one. (it was sectarian to start with, and now it became full on radicalized extremism with "death to america" as their slogan)
Al Qaeda HQ backed this for a while, and Al Qaeda Iraq began to spread beyond the Iraqi borders into Syria, where the Arab spring had left the Ba'athist Syrian party there weakened. They (Al Qaeda in Iraq) gained such a firm foothold in Syria, they changed their name to Al Qaeda in the levant. They wanted to rise to power in Syria so much, that they started killing all other militias who were also at war with the Ba'athist Asaad regime. At this point Al Qaeda HQ denounced them. So Al Qaeda in the levant rebranded to "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria - but you know them as ISIS".
Now you can call all of the attacks that occur in Iraq and Syria as "acts of terror" or you can call it what it is, a messy and *** up war with too many powers trying to influence its outcome.
If you define the above as acts of terror, fine. But its not the same as the "terrorists" attacks taking place against foreign/western cities. Those are actual terrorists attacks against a population that is not in the place of war.
82% of the terror attacks you are referring to take place in the countries that have been decimated by war/civil war.
The OVERWHELMING majority of terrorist attacks occuring in the US are not by Islamic extremists/radicals/alqaeda or w/e you want to call it. It is homegrown terrorism, as much as 93% if memory serves correctly.
So you can either continue to watch material that makes your world smaller and simpler, or you can grow up and be a human being and start to learn.
Important to note: Syria and Iraq were SECULAR Arab Nations, not Islamic. Their main rivals and enemies were always Islamists such as the Muslim Brotherhood. But that's another story. I don't want your brain to explode with all this information. Its much easier to just "ugh urr islam"
Found this to be interesting.
https://vimeo.com/111380331
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By maldini 2015-12-18 01:31:20
Here is a roundup of the opinion poll survey and its findings that were talked about earlier.
YouTube Video Placeholder
Simpleton video for the simple minded. Things as messy as the current state of the world don't just happen. There is history and nuance to it. If you want to be a simpleton that's your choice, but keep out of history and politics because it is anything but simple. That type of thinking and idiocy is what perpetuates it. Its part of the problem, not the solution.
Lets first differentiate between the acts that are all lumped together as acts of terrorism. (call me crazy)
82% of the world's "terrorism" occurs in 5 countries.
Iraq : In a state of Civil war. In the Iraqi/Iranian War, the US armed Sadam Hussein's Bathist regime to serve as a regional counterweight to the growing influence of Iran. They empowered a totalitarian dictatorship and they had no qualms at the time with him putting down any and all legitimate resistance to his seat in power. All minorities other than the Ba'athist party supporters were oppressed and persecuted. This includes Sunni, Shi'ia and ethnic kurds. Iran itself had deposed their dictator, the Shah. Because the Shah was so unpopular, once he was deposed the islamic revolutionists turned their attention on his greatest beneficator and supporter; the US (Ayotollah Khomani gave them the nickname the "great satan". It is because of this that Sadam Hussein was suddenly the month's flavor. Few who know any history at all will argue agains the fact that the Shah's Iran was the US's closest ally in the region - rivaling the US's special relationship with Israel.
Following the end of the Iraqi/Iranian war Sadam, the madman, soon invaded the peaceful nation of Kuwait after receiving a nod from Washington. The US dragged Saudi Arabia into the conflict by showing the Saudi Government what is the equivelant of photoshopped Satelite images, showing a build up of Iraq's military on the Saudi border. Saudi Arabia gave the US military bases in its borders. Iraq was defeated. It is at this time that an American asset known as Al-Qaeda, who had been training "freedom" fighters in Afghanistan to fight off foreign threats (namely the USSR during the 80's invasion of Afghanistan - which was a proxy point of the cold-war) for the past 20 years, went rogue and turned on the US and the Saudi regime. Their leader, Osama Bin Laden, a highly trained(by the US) and elite saudi billionar made threats that the US chose to ignore.
Iraq suffered defeat, had sanctions put on it for a decade. Almost a million people died (more than 500k children) during this decade due to lack of medical supplies and overall crippling sanctions. But they left Sadam in power.
During the same decade, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan went undisturbed and unchallenged due to their hosts, the ruling regime, Taliban's protection - despite many warnings from the Arab Gulf States.
9/11 happens. The US retaliates by attacking 2 countries that either had absolutely nothing to do with it in Iraq's case, or were not the perpetraitors in Afghanistan's case (taliban =/= al qaeda and afghanistan =/= taliban). Afhganistan itself was already in a state of civil war as the taliban and northern alliance had been in a state of impasse for 6 years. Iraq was sent back to the stone ages. No WMDs were ever found, no relation or connection to 9/11. The world quickly forgot the lies that Collin Powel (he admitted it), Rumsfeld and *** Cheney told the world. Better yet, the Taliban in Afghanistan were never defeated and the population that supported the US turned against them after a decade of internal strife.
The US, installed a sectarian Shiaa regime in Iraq and withdrew its troops. The shiaa pro-Iranian regime made quick work of settling old scores and committed many atrocities, first targeting ex-ba'athist party members and military generals/commanders, then all sunni's became easy prey. This continued for 3 years. During which Sunni's became radicalized and started to form local militias to resist the new Sectarian, Iranian puppet regime. They had great success as they were backed by some Arab regimes who have been at a state of cold war with Iran, since the Shiaa revolution (that's when they kicked out the american puppet Shah).
Al Qaeda in Iraq capitalized on this, and joint the fight against the Shiaa. They gained a lot of footing making use of the momentum. The sunni tribes, who felt abandoned by the US and left to suffer the persecution of the Iranian backed Shiaa regime, had no issues with Al Qaeda killing off their enemies. The Ex-ba'athist joined this alliance, further bolstering it with their knowledge of military warfare. They did so well, that Al Qaeda in Iraq hijacked their political war and turned it into a religious one. (it was sectarian to start with, and now it became full on radicalized extremism with "death to america" as their slogan)
Al Qaeda HQ backed this for a while, and Al Qaeda Iraq began to spread beyond the Iraqi borders into Syria, where the Arab spring had left the Ba'athist Syrian party there weakened. They (Al Qaeda in Iraq) gained such a firm foothold in Syria, they changed their name to Al Qaeda in the levant. They wanted to rise to power in Syria so much, that they started killing all other militias who were also at war with the Ba'athist Asaad regime. At this point Al Qaeda HQ denounced them. So Al Qaeda in the levant rebranded to "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria - but you know them as ISIS".
Now you can call all of the attacks that occur in Iraq and Syria as "acts of terror" or you can call it what it is, a messy and *** up war with too many powers trying to influence its outcome.
If you define the above as acts of terror, fine. But its not the same as the "terrorists" attacks taking place against foreign/western cities. Those are actual terrorists attacks against a population that is not in the place of war.
82% of the terror attacks you are referring to take place in the countries that have been decimated by war/civil war.
The OVERWHELMING majority of terrorist attacks occuring in the US are not by Islamic extremists/radicals/alqaeda or w/e you want to call it. It is homegrown terrorism, as much as 93% if memory serves correctly.
So you can either continue to watch material that makes your world smaller and simpler, or you can grow up and be a human being and start to learn.
Important to note: Syria and Iraq were SECULAR Arab Nations, not Islamic. Their main rivals and enemies were always Islamists such as the Muslim Brotherhood. But that's another story. I don't want your brain to explode with all this information. Its much easier to just "ugh urr islam"
Did you even watch the vid?
By a Sunni Muslim human rights activist woman.
It talks about what the Muslim population thinks about extremist Islam. And the different means the extremist agenda is being pushed. With surveyed data.
Not about which terrorist attacks are islamic or how the wars in the Middle East came about.
Yes, I watched the entire thing. It was painful. She is ill informed and makes very broad statements.
It wasn't more than 1 minute into the video that she made an incorrect and misleading statement. I suffered through it and continued to watch. Then she says Hamas are one of the factions responsible for terror attacks in the US... until date there has never been a single Hamas terror attack in the US.
She says the same about Hezbulah - again, not a single attack in the US. In fact, both Hamas and Hezbulah have never attacked any other nation outside their borders.
I'm anti Hamas, Anti-Muslim Brotherhood, and most definitely anti-Hezbulah. I'm a Sunni Muslim. Just because the person presenting this video is Sunni Muslim doesn't make me inclined or obliged to agree with her. I agree and seek the truth. I don't see things in "us vs them" unless "us" = people who seek the truth and base our opinions on it. So she could be my long last aunt and be willing to give me 1,000,000 USD and it wouldn't make anything she is saying any more truthful.
The entire video is filled with lies, half truths and cherry picking without any nuance or actual point other than to reduce the complex situation in the world to a form of simplicity that lazy and uninformed viewers can use to entrench themselves in their ignorant position.
By volkom 2015-12-18 08:58:31
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By Ramyrez 2015-12-18 09:10:23
In case you guys don't watch bear (you should) this is the thing:
I don't watch sensationalist fakers.
Les Stroud or get the *** off the television pretending to be a survivalist.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-12-18 09:23:59
In case you guys don't watch bear (you should) this is the thing:
I don't watch sensationalist fakers.
Les Stroud or get the *** off the television pretending to be a survivalist.
Watch me as I survive all alone in the dreary wilderness... with my large film and sound crew.
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By fonewear 2015-12-18 09:25:12
Bear is far more entertaining than Les Stroud. If I wanted to watch a boring person I'd look into the mirror !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-12-18 09:28:15
Bear is far more entertaining than Les Stroud. If I wanted to watch a boring person I'd look into the mirror !
I looked in the mirror once.
Never again.
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By fonewear 2015-12-18 09:30:53
Something something something GOP evil something something:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/world/middleeast/president-obama-national-counterterrorism-center.html
Basically this:
"Mr. Obama is struggling to fashion a message that reassures Americans that he is serious about battling the threat of the Islamic State while also avoiding what he considers the alarmism voiced by some Republican presidential candidates. Polls suggest that many Americans believe he is not taking the threat from the Islamic State seriously enough.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-18 09:41:37
Watch me as I survive all alone in the dreary wilderness... with my large film and sound crew.
Les films himself.
Bear is far more entertaining than Les Stroud. If I wanted to watch a boring person I'd look into the mirror !
Bear is seriously irritating. He overdramatizes everything.
I find Survivorman enjoyable to watch. Bear just looks for excuses to drink his own piss for shock value.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-18 09:44:48
Polls suggest that many Americans believe he is not taking the threat from the Islamic State seriously enough.
Because polls ask general people on the street who also watch American Idol.
The thing about ISIS is that they want a ground war. There's no saying they'll win it, but they want it never-the-less because casualties = recruitment tool.
Also, their entire religious nonsense premise is based on bringing about their glorious divine rewards which requires a holy war.
There is no simple answer no matter how great it would be to say "just go in and kill all the bad guys."
Because that tends to make more bad guys in the long run.
By fonewear 2015-12-18 09:45:25
I don't watch "survivor shows" to learn how to survive it's entertainment.
By fonewear 2015-12-18 09:46:45
I think carpet bombing Syria is a viable option though !
Trump said he would bomb the ***out of ISIS how can you argue against that ?
By Ramyrez 2015-12-18 09:46:50
I don't watch "survivor shows" to learn how to survive it's entertainment.
Yeah but how entertaining can it be when he invalidates his own premise by having a three-course feast right off camera. -.-;
He's such a *** poser.
By Ramyrez 2015-12-18 09:47:07
I think carpet bombing Syria is a viable option though !
Didn't. Learn. Anything.
By fonewear 2015-12-18 09:48:31
I think carpet bombing Syria is a viable option though !
Didn't. Learn. Anything.
So some civilians get killed got to break some eggs if you are going to make an omelet !
By Ramyrez 2015-12-18 09:50:43
I think carpet bombing Syria is a viable option though !
Didn't. Learn. Anything.
So some civilians get killed got to break some eggs if you are going to make an omelet !
My statement remains valid.
By fonewear 2015-12-18 09:51:06
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If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen; if you prove you can't handle the criticism you bring upon yourself in this thread, you may be removed from it. You are responsible for what you post.
Along those lines, heat is fine, but sustained, clearly personal hostility is not okay. The personal attack rules still apply. Attack positions, not posters. Failure to adhere to this will result in your removal from the thread.
This thread is NOT the Flame Core.
These rules are subject to change and modification where and when needed.
Random Politics & Religion may be mained or demained depending on the activity within at a Moderator's discretion.
With that out of the way, let the debates begin!
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