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 Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-06-24 20:42:54
And in other news. From Forbes which can hardly be called liberal....
The Real IRS Flap Is About Dark Money, Not Emails
Quote: Don’t get distracted by the political theater over lost IRS emails. There is little new about headline-seeking politicians berating IRS Commissioner John Koskinen. Like most of what happens in Congress these days, these second-rate star chambers do little more than create cable TV sound bites and base-motivating outrage.
But get past the shouting and two very important issues remain on the table: The first is the IRS has been terribly managed for years and needs to be fixed. It’s easy to forget, but that’s why Koskinen is there.
The second is that the commissioner appears undeterred in his efforts to rewrite the rules for 501(c)(4) non-profits that are engaged in political activities. That seemingly obscure effort will have an enormous impact on future U.S. elections and the balance of political power in the U.S. And it gets better.
Do read.
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Edit: Oh **** I paged....
Have a sushi cat:
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-24 21:25:41
That isn't news.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-06-24 21:41:00
Amends? Looks like liberals are blaming Clinton for DOMA now lol
By Altimaomega 2014-06-24 23:36:20
By Altimaomega 2014-06-25 02:03:18
Why is the UN meddling in our affairs?
The UN is hiring people in New York for a special job.
https://inspira.un.org/psc/UNCAREERS/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/UN_CUSTOMIZATIONS.UN_JOB_DETAIL.GBL?Page=UN_JOB_DETAIL&Action=A&JobOpeningId=34627&;
Disarmament is the collection, documentation, control and disposal of small arms, ammunition, explosives and light and heavy weapons from combatants and often from the civilian population.
Demobilization is the formal and controlled discharge of active combatants from armed forces and groups, including a phase of “reinsertion” which provides short-term assistance to ex-combatants.
Reintegration is the process by which ex-combatants acquire civilian status and gain sustainable employment and income. It is a political, social and economic process with an open time-frame, primarily taking place in communities at the local level.
The objective of the DDR process is to contribute to security and stability in post-conflict environments so that recovery and development can begin. DDR helps create an enabling environment for political and peace processes by dealing with security problem that arises when ex-combatants are trying to adjust to normal life, during the vital transition period from conflict to peace and development.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-25 02:11:26
You forgot to copy/paste the rest of the information from the site:
Quote: Where do we do it?
We support DDR processes through several of our missions:
Democratic Republic of the Congo - UN Organization Stabilization Mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (MONUSCO)
Côte d’Ivoire - UN Operation in Côte d'Ivoire (UNOCI)
Haiti - UN Stabilization Mission in Haiti (MINUSTAH), through Community Violence Reduction
We are at the planning stages for both Darfur/Sudan - African Union-UN Hybrid Operation in Darfur (UNAMID) and Somalia - UN Political Office for Somalia (UNPOS)*.
We also provide operational advice and support to:
Burundi - UN Integrated Peace-Building Office in Burundi (BINUB)*
Central African Republic - United Nations Integrated Peace-building Office in the Central African Republic (BINUCA)*
Guinea-Bissau - UN Integrated Peace-building Office in Guinea-Bissau (UNIOGBIS)*
* Special Political Missions led by the UN Department of Political Affairs. Don't worry. The big, bad UN isn't coming after you. Find something else to wet your pants over.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-25 02:30:02
How could an organization with no power come after anyone anyway?
By fonewear 2014-06-25 07:53:51
UN wasting time since 1945.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-06-25 07:56:57
UN wasting time since 1945. Wasting time since it was still the League of Nations.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-06-25 08:00:39
How could an organization with no power come after anyone anyway? no power, and quickly losing any kind of credibility and relevancy.
Needs to be usurped by another updated version... let's call it...
Untied Nations... since we're clearly not united.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-25 08:25:40
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »How could an organization with no power come after anyone anyway? no power, and quickly losing any kind of credibility and relevancy.
Needs to be usurped by another updated version... let's call it...
Untied Nations... since we're clearly not united. We would need another world war in order to dissolve/create another League like that.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-06-25 08:28:37
Another good Christian pervert. Christian radio host in Michigan busted in child sex probe Quote: John Balyo, 35 — the morning host on WCSG, based in Grand Rapids — was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct after an investigation found he had paid for sex with minors On excommunication, it means that they can't accept the Host nor can they confess. I must admit that it is highly unusual to excommunicate a group, its almost always been individuals since the time of the great schism. Far more public education perverts than christian perverts you know!
Implying that they're mutually exclusive?
Far too many sick people in general, regardless of their vocation.
The point here is more the inherent irony of someone who (presumably) pushes good Christian values on the airwaves being caught in...not-so-good-Christian behavior. I think Nausi's point is, while there are many perverts out there, why are people only picking on one group? Because these are the people who claim to be more moral than the rest of us.
And a few of them lie to gain access to their victims. So do a few teachers, scout leaders, and football coaches its true, but the Christians CLAIM to be more moral.
I hardly think renting 12 year old boys is moral.
WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Um. The most preachy people I've ever met in my life have been teachers, and I know far more of them than I do clergymen of the catholic church.
I bet its the same for you!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-25 08:33:38
Another good Christian pervert. Christian radio host in Michigan busted in child sex probe Quote: John Balyo, 35 — the morning host on WCSG, based in Grand Rapids — was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct after an investigation found he had paid for sex with minors On excommunication, it means that they can't accept the Host nor can they confess. I must admit that it is highly unusual to excommunicate a group, its almost always been individuals since the time of the great schism. Far more public education perverts than christian perverts you know!
Implying that they're mutually exclusive?
Far too many sick people in general, regardless of their vocation.
The point here is more the inherent irony of someone who (presumably) pushes good Christian values on the airwaves being caught in...not-so-good-Christian behavior. I think Nausi's point is, while there are many perverts out there, why are people only picking on one group? Because these are the people who claim to be more moral than the rest of us.
And a few of them lie to gain access to their victims. So do a few teachers, scout leaders, and football coaches its true, but the Christians CLAIM to be more moral.
I hardly think renting 12 year old boys is moral.
WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Um. The most preachy people I've ever met in my life have been teachers, and I know far more of them than I do clergymen of the catholic church.
I bet its the same for you! Naw, Liberals are preachier.
They think they are the gods of the universe, even though most of them are atheists.
Leviathan.Redherring
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By Leviathan.Redherring 2014-06-25 08:34:04
Another good Christian pervert. Christian radio host in Michigan busted in child sex probe Quote: John Balyo, 35 — the morning host on WCSG, based in Grand Rapids — was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct after an investigation found he had paid for sex with minors On excommunication, it means that they can't accept the Host nor can they confess. I must admit that it is highly unusual to excommunicate a group, its almost always been individuals since the time of the great schism. Far more public education perverts than christian perverts you know!
Implying that they're mutually exclusive?
Far too many sick people in general, regardless of their vocation.
The point here is more the inherent irony of someone who (presumably) pushes good Christian values on the airwaves being caught in...not-so-good-Christian behavior. I think Nausi's point is, while there are many perverts out there, why are people only picking on one group? Because these are the people who claim to be more moral than the rest of us.
And a few of them lie to gain access to their victims. So do a few teachers, scout leaders, and football coaches its true, but the Christians CLAIM to be more moral.
I hardly think renting 12 year old boys is moral.
WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Um. The most preachy people I've ever met in my life have been teachers, and I know far more of them than I do clergymen of the catholic church.
I bet its the same for you!
They claim to be a Christian but it doesn't mean they are, someone can be a Pastor and not be a Christian, or in this case a Christian Radio Host. Since it is a belief and not a given title.
By fonewear 2014-06-25 08:37:19
I'm still trying to determine if pedo bear would approve of this.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-25 08:40:19
I'm still trying to determine if pedo bear would approve of this. Only if children are involved.
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Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-06-25 09:10:16
Leviathan.Redherring said: »Another good Christian pervert. Christian radio host in Michigan busted in child sex probe Quote: John Balyo, 35 — the morning host on WCSG, based in Grand Rapids — was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct after an investigation found he had paid for sex with minors On excommunication, it means that they can't accept the Host nor can they confess. I must admit that it is highly unusual to excommunicate a group, its almost always been individuals since the time of the great schism. Far more public education perverts than christian perverts you know!
Implying that they're mutually exclusive?
Far too many sick people in general, regardless of their vocation.
The point here is more the inherent irony of someone who (presumably) pushes good Christian values on the airwaves being caught in...not-so-good-Christian behavior. I think Nausi's point is, while there are many perverts out there, why are people only picking on one group? Because these are the people who claim to be more moral than the rest of us.
And a few of them lie to gain access to their victims. So do a few teachers, scout leaders, and football coaches its true, but the Christians CLAIM to be more moral.
I hardly think renting 12 year old boys is moral.
WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Um. The most preachy people I've ever met in my life have been teachers, and I know far more of them than I do clergymen of the catholic church.
I bet its the same for you!
They claim to be a Christian but it doesn't mean they are, someone can be a Pastor and not be a Christian, or in this case a Christian Radio Host. Since it is a belief and not a given title. I just wish all these alleged "Christians" actually followed Christ's teachings.
Leviathan.Redherring
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By Leviathan.Redherring 2014-06-25 09:30:23
Leviathan.Redherring said: »Another good Christian pervert. Christian radio host in Michigan busted in child sex probe Quote: John Balyo, 35 — the morning host on WCSG, based in Grand Rapids — was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct after an investigation found he had paid for sex with minors On excommunication, it means that they can't accept the Host nor can they confess. I must admit that it is highly unusual to excommunicate a group, its almost always been individuals since the time of the great schism. Far more public education perverts than christian perverts you know!
Implying that they're mutually exclusive?
Far too many sick people in general, regardless of their vocation.
The point here is more the inherent irony of someone who (presumably) pushes good Christian values on the airwaves being caught in...not-so-good-Christian behavior. I think Nausi's point is, while there are many perverts out there, why are people only picking on one group? Because these are the people who claim to be more moral than the rest of us.
And a few of them lie to gain access to their victims. So do a few teachers, scout leaders, and football coaches its true, but the Christians CLAIM to be more moral.
I hardly think renting 12 year old boys is moral.
WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Um. The most preachy people I've ever met in my life have been teachers, and I know far more of them than I do clergymen of the catholic church.
I bet its the same for you!
They claim to be a Christian but it doesn't mean they are, someone can be a Pastor and not be a Christian, or in this case a Christian Radio Host. Since it is a belief and not a given title. I just wish all these alleged "Christians" actually followed Christ's teachings.
can say this about a lot of different people not just Christians. Police, doctors, politicians.....
the problem is humanity in general not this or that group.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-25 09:33:14
Leviathan.Redherring said: »Leviathan.Redherring said: »Another good Christian pervert. Christian radio host in Michigan busted in child sex probe Quote: John Balyo, 35 — the morning host on WCSG, based in Grand Rapids — was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct after an investigation found he had paid for sex with minors On excommunication, it means that they can't accept the Host nor can they confess. I must admit that it is highly unusual to excommunicate a group, its almost always been individuals since the time of the great schism. Far more public education perverts than christian perverts you know!
Implying that they're mutually exclusive?
Far too many sick people in general, regardless of their vocation.
The point here is more the inherent irony of someone who (presumably) pushes good Christian values on the airwaves being caught in...not-so-good-Christian behavior. I think Nausi's point is, while there are many perverts out there, why are people only picking on one group? Because these are the people who claim to be more moral than the rest of us.
And a few of them lie to gain access to their victims. So do a few teachers, scout leaders, and football coaches its true, but the Christians CLAIM to be more moral.
I hardly think renting 12 year old boys is moral.
WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Um. The most preachy people I've ever met in my life have been teachers, and I know far more of them than I do clergymen of the catholic church.
I bet its the same for you!
They claim to be a Christian but it doesn't mean they are, someone can be a Pastor and not be a Christian, or in this case a Christian Radio Host. Since it is a belief and not a given title. I just wish all these alleged "Christians" actually followed Christ's teachings.
can say this about a lot of different people not just Christians. Police, doctors, politicians.....
the problem is humanity in general not this or that group. You must be new here.
Certain people love to categorize people who are not in their specific group to different groups to demean them in every way possible.
Case in point: Chanti's post you quoted.
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-06-25 10:18:04
Can we all just agree that no one likes pedophiles, they are disgusting vile people, that they are a stain on society in general and stop trying to say that this pedophile is worse than that one because he/she is a christian?
I mean cmon...
Leviathan.Redherring
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By Leviathan.Redherring 2014-06-25 10:20:27
Leviathan.Redherring said: »Leviathan.Redherring said: »Another good Christian pervert. Christian radio host in Michigan busted in child sex probe Quote: John Balyo, 35 — the morning host on WCSG, based in Grand Rapids — was charged with first-degree criminal sexual conduct after an investigation found he had paid for sex with minors On excommunication, it means that they can't accept the Host nor can they confess. I must admit that it is highly unusual to excommunicate a group, its almost always been individuals since the time of the great schism. Far more public education perverts than christian perverts you know!
Implying that they're mutually exclusive?
Far too many sick people in general, regardless of their vocation.
The point here is more the inherent irony of someone who (presumably) pushes good Christian values on the airwaves being caught in...not-so-good-Christian behavior. I think Nausi's point is, while there are many perverts out there, why are people only picking on one group? Because these are the people who claim to be more moral than the rest of us.
And a few of them lie to gain access to their victims. So do a few teachers, scout leaders, and football coaches its true, but the Christians CLAIM to be more moral.
I hardly think renting 12 year old boys is moral.
WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Um. The most preachy people I've ever met in my life have been teachers, and I know far more of them than I do clergymen of the catholic church.
I bet its the same for you!
They claim to be a Christian but it doesn't mean they are, someone can be a Pastor and not be a Christian, or in this case a Christian Radio Host. Since it is a belief and not a given title. I just wish all these alleged "Christians" actually followed Christ's teachings.
can say this about a lot of different people not just Christians. Police, doctors, politicians.....
the problem is humanity in general not this or that group. You must be new here.
Certain people love to categorize people who are not in their specific group to different groups to demean them in every way possible.
Case in point: Chanti's post you quoted.
yep people love to finger point, generalize, and assign blame.
people would rather point out faults instead of finding an actual solution.
Leviathan.Redherring
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By Leviathan.Redherring 2014-06-25 10:21:10
Can we all just agree that no one likes pedophiles, they are disgusting vile people, that they are a stain on society in general and stop trying to say that this pedophile is worse than that one because he/she is a christian?
I mean cmon...
this so much.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-06-25 10:24:31
Naw, Liberals are preachier.
They think they are the gods of the universe, even though most of them are atheists.
I'm starting to agree with this. I don't see so many evangelists, catholics, or hyper-conservatives on the news preaching lately.
It's been the liberals on the front-page PC policing everything as of late.
By fonewear 2014-06-25 10:28:37
 Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-26 06:50:34
Can we all just agree that no one likes pedophiles, they are disgusting vile people, that they are a stain on society in general and stop trying to say that this pedophile is worse than that one because he/she is a christian?
I mean cmon... You would think so, but then I'm sure there are people here with some kind of off the wall defense of them, because of mental issues, possibility of rehabilitation, freedom of expression, etc.
By fonewear 2014-06-26 07:00:43
I'm sure there is a lawyer out there that has defended pedophiles. So money overrules morality.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-26 07:36:26
Can we all just agree that no one likes pedophiles, they are disgusting vile people, that they are a stain on society in general and stop trying to say that this pedophile is worse than that one because he/she is a christian?
I mean cmon... You would think so, but then I'm sure there are people here with some kind of off the wall defense of them, because of mental issues, possibility of rehabilitation, freedom of expression, etc. With the change on forum rules yesterday, there is now another defense layer they can use and abuse.
I'll probably be perma-banned in a week. Fonewear the week after. Chaosx before the end of the year.
Nausi and Amand doesn't post often, but the next time they do, automatic perma-ban because of hurt feelings.
Saevel would probably be banned sooner than me if he posts soon. Ravael may make it to see next year. Depends on how butthurt people will get after the slew of perma-bans coming up.
But those who are just as bad on the general opposing side (especially the worst offenders of the whole website, those who are worse than us) of our viewpoints will be ignored, even if we specifically show evidence of rule breaking.
So, I guess you should watch what you say to prevent butt-hurts.
By fonewear 2014-06-26 07:40:25
What change of rules ? No fun allowed ? Instead of sending them to jail. Just send them to "predator rehab".
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-26 07:52:57
What change of rules ? No fun allowed ? Instead of sending them to jail. Just send them to "predator rehab". Fascism is on the rise again. That's all you need to know. You've been warned! >:D
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-26 07:59:05
What change of rules ? No fun allowed ? Instead of sending them to jail. Just send them to "predator rehab". Fascism is on the rise again. That's all you need to know. You've been warned! >:D snippit said: Behavior
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