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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-25 15:07:08  
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I don't think Bioshock changed anything, it told a good story, and that was about it.

It gave people a new standard by which to judge the atmosphere and environment in gaming, and more depth by which to judge FPS beyond "get new gun/power, kill in new and interesting ways".

It took many elements that had existed before, but never with the same amount of polish or poise, and never all in one place.

I can't overstate my love of the game.

As much as I enjoyed the Bioshock games, (yes even 2, bite me) the combat system was pretty subpar by shooter standards, the weapons weren't particularly unique and the plasmids has fairly limited use other than the lightning one. What I think was influential is that they managed to make the game NOT feel like a shooter. It was the first game that put all those elements into a package that actually worked. I have to admit, though, that the Unreal engine held the game together too much, visuals offset a lot of it's shortcomings.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-08-25 15:12:13  
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I don't think Bioshock changed anything, it told a good story, and that was about it.

It gave people a new standard by which to judge the atmosphere and environment in gaming, and more depth by which to judge FPS beyond "get new gun/power, kill in new and interesting ways".

It took many elements that had existed before, but never with the same amount of polish or poise, and never all in one place.

I can't overstate my love of the game.

As much as I enjoyed the Bioshock games, (yes even 2, bite me) the combat system was pretty subpar by shooter standards, the weapons weren't particularly unique and the plasmids has fairly limited use other than the lightning one. What I think was influential is that they managed to make the game NOT feel like a shooter. It was the first game that put all those elements into a package that actually worked. I have to admit, though, that the Unreal engine held the game together too much, visuals offset a lot of it's shortcomings.

Hey, I've defended Bioshock 2 here before and I will again. I liked it.

I guess I never cared if it wasn't an "advanced options shooter" or w/e else you want in a combat system. It gave you options of ways to finish of your enemies, gave you some environmental interactions with plasmids and moved the story.

Maybe I'm just old, but I really don't feel straight-FPS that are only about killing a bunch of other people (especially in games that end up being multiplayer-focused) is worth my money. I got over than with Quake almost 20 years ago.

I enjoy the gunplay in games plenty, but they need to have other elements to keep me around. The exception to this being Borderlands, which is basically an FPS Diablo...and somehow I can't drag myself away.

Though when it comes to non-combat, I admit I enjoyed greatly the 1998 version of Burial At Sea Ep 2.
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-25 15:18:37  
Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-25 15:25:44  
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Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-08-25 15:46:35  
Rarely do you see an article directly contradict its own headline even before the byline.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-25 16:27:09  
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Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...

Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-08-25 16:29:42  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...

Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.

or you know, quit worrying about what other people do with their bodies, that works too.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-25 16:49:44  
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Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...
Only in America is this now considered necessary for low income people.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-25 16:56:23  
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Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...

Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.

or you know, quit worrying about what other people do with their bodies, that works too.
If it's their money, there is no discussion. But it's not their money otherwise it wouldn't be an issue for low income individuals. Someone has to pick up the tab. It's certainly not the insurance company, as medicine is a business which maximizes profits.

So if the patient, insurance company, nor the doctors or hospitals are paying for it, who is?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-25 17:23:37  
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So if the patient, insurance company, nor the doctors or hospitals are paying for it, who is?

the mysterious order of the evil/magical 1%

we have a weird thing for post ops

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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-08-25 17:35:18  
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So if the patient, insurance company, nor the doctors or hospitals are paying for it, who is?
The government is, but this isn't the money paid via taxes they swear.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-25 17:55:14  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...

Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.

or you know, quit worrying about what other people do with their bodies, that works too.
If it's their money, there is no discussion. But it's not their money otherwise it wouldn't be an issue for low income individuals. Someone has to pick up the tab. It's certainly not the insurance company, as medicine is a business which maximizes profits.

So if the patient, insurance company, nor the doctors or hospitals are paying for it, who is?

The government subsidizes a portion of the premiums, it's completely ignorant to say that. The insurance company pays out claims based on medical need and the coverage that the patient has purchased. If the insurance company approves the procedure, it's them who are paying for it. The government isn't on the hook for their procedure.

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
So if the patient, insurance company, nor the doctors or hospitals are paying for it, who is?
The government is, but this isn't the money paid via taxes they swear.

Lol-no... That's just plain not how insurance works before or after ACA.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-25 18:56:19  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...

Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.

or you know, quit worrying about what other people do with their bodies, that works too.
If it's their money, there is no discussion. But it's not their money otherwise it wouldn't be an issue for low income individuals. Someone has to pick up the tab. It's certainly not the insurance company, as medicine is a business which maximizes profits.

So if the patient, insurance company, nor the doctors or hospitals are paying for it, who is?

The government subsidizes a portion of the premiums, it's completely ignorant to say that. The insurance company pays out claims based on medical need and the coverage that the patient has purchased. If the insurance company approves the procedure, it's them who are paying for it. The government isn't on the hook for their procedure.
Who is paying for their insurance if they couldn't afford it beforehand?

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Devin Payne had gone years without health insurance—having little need and not much money to pay for it.

Then Payne, who had a wife and four children, realized she could no longer live as a man.

In her early 40s, she changed her name, began wearing long skirts and grew out her sandy blond hair. And she started taking female hormones, which caused her breasts to develop and the muscle mass on her 6-foot one-inch frame to shrink.

The next step was gender reassignment surgery. For that, Payne, who is now 44, said she needed health coverage. “It is not a simple, easy, magical surgery,” said Payne, a photographer who lives in Palm Springs. “Trying to do this without insurance is a big risk. Things can go wrong … not having the money to pay for it would be awful.”

Payne learned in the fall that she might qualify for subsidies through the state’s new insurance marketplace, Covered California, because her income fell under the limit of $46,000 a year. She eagerly signed up in March for a Blue Shield plan for about $230 a month, and began making preparations for the surgery that would change her life.

So let's say they paid their $230 a month for the past 5 months, that's $1,150.

What is the total cost of gender reassignment surgery? $50,000 (Rough estimate including therapy, genital reconstruction, etc.)

San Francisco, for example, actually has a $75,000 maximum lifetime allowance.

So $50,000 - $1,150 they've already paid through premiums, that leaves $48,850 left to be picked up by someone.

If it's the insurance company, then it's other people's money paying the tab while this person pays off that $48,850 at a payback rate of $230 a month. That would take 213 months, or 17 years and 9 months.

Inflation, according to Keynesian economics, doubles every 20 years. So not only do you have federal money and other people paying for this via their insurance premiums, the insurance company loses out on almost half the cost by the time it's paid back.

Do you honestly think any insurance company is going to lose money on this? The answer, since you really don't understand this, is no. They raise of the price of others' premiums to recoup the money back as soon as possible.

Just another example of socialist economics hard at work.

And socialism only lasts until you run out of other peoples' money.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-25 19:07:55  
You seriously don't understand how insurance works. The purpose of the marketplaces is to create a shared risk pool. The insurance company now has a cap on profit margin, so they can't symbolically raise premiums. This procedure is something that they agreed to pay for when they sold the policy. A heart transplant costs in excess of $200,000 dollars, and insurance companies have been paying for them and making a profit for decades, and organ transplants are far more common than gender reassignment. This is seriously the pinnacle of fake outrage. The potential cost of this procedure is part of the calculation of risk that insurance is designed around.

What it boils down to is that you don't understand the procedure or the condition it treats and want to selectively argue against phantom socialism piecemeal. Guess what, Medicaid dollars go to religious "pray away the gay" programs, that's actual government funding. It's also proven to do a lot of harm and have no medical merit, but I don't hear any of the "conservative" crowd crying out against that. If you want to be taken seriously, found your outrage in reality and be consistent.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-25 19:21:02  
Insurance pays for the surgery over the deductible amount.

Government pays for the premiums for the insurance.

The patient pays for the maximum yearly amount of $6,250.

If the patient refuses to pay, then the hospital eats the cost of the patient.

That's who pays what.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-25 19:25:21  
Odin.Jassik said: »
You seriously don't understand how insurance works. The purpose of the marketplaces is to create a shared risk pool. The insurance company now has a cap on profit margin, so they can't symbolically raise premiums. This procedure is something that they agreed to pay for when they sold the policy. A heart transplant costs in excess of $200,000 dollars, and insurance companies have been paying for them and making a profit for decades, and organ transplants are far more common than gender reassignment. This is seriously the pinnacle of fake outrage. The potential cost of this procedure is part of the calculation of risk that insurance is designed around.

What it boils down to is that you don't understand the procedure or the condition it treats and want to selectively argue against phantom socialism piecemeal. Guess what, Medicaid dollars go to religious "pray away the gay" programs, that's actual government funding. It's also proven to do a lot of harm and have no medical merit, but I don't hear any of the "conservative" crowd crying out against that. If you want to be taken seriously, found your outrage in reality and be consistent.
We actually had a conservative post a whole thread on the gay therapy thing awhile ago and their outrage.

And a heart transplant is a necessity of life. You need a heart to live. And people often die waiting on long lists for those. Same with kidney transplants and a lot of other organ transplants.

As for premium hikes:
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Based on figures released so far by 24 states and the District of Columbia, the average premium increase for next year would be around 7.5%, according to an analysis by PwC's Health Research Institute, an arm of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLC. The analysis, which didn't include the new California rates, found the moves would range from a proposed cut of 23% for one plan to a hike of 36%.

Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans, which have been the biggest players in many state marketplaces, were requesting boosts "typically above 9%," the institute found.

Covered California will have 10 insurers next year, including major insurers such as Blue Shield of California and WellPoint Inc., but missing some national names such as UnitedHealth Group Inc.

The rates for next year's California plans, which still need to be reviewed by regulators, will vary for individual consumers. Also, about 90% of Covered California consumers received federal subsidies that will defray the cost of premiums. Covered California said that in most of the state, the subsidies next year will increase or "remain very close" to the 2014 amounts.

The exchange said that, leaving out the effects of the subsidies, 16% of enrollees will see premiums stay flat or go down, 35% will see a boost of less than 5%, 36% will have increases of 5% to 8%, and 13% will have hikes of more than 8%.
California Sees Health-Law Premiums Rising 4.2% in 2015

So increase in subsidies, or remain very close, and 84% of plans with premium increases with varying degrees.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-08-25 19:29:41  
Insurance companies are legalized Ponzi schemes. If they ever lost money, they would never exist to begin with.

Healthcare, home owners, car, etc.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-08-25 19:49:54  
I wish the products I sold were required by law....
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-25 20:00:01  
Sorry Nik, but refurbished doomsday devices are not required by law.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-08-25 20:02:24  
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Sorry Nik, but refurbished doomsday devices are not required by law.

I wish they were. Maybe then the CIA would stop tracking me.

Seriously, I buy from Nik ONE TIME and they won't leave me alone.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-08-25 20:05:44  
It's been refurbished. Only reason they are tracking you, because you never want a doomsday device to go off earlier than expected.



EVER!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-08-25 20:24:10  
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Insurance companies are legalized Ponzi schemes. If they ever lost money, they would never exist to begin with.

Healthcare, home owners, car, etc.
Insurance isn't a Ponzi scheme. It is a tool used to alleviate risk from the user, and to lower costs.
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-25 20:32:05  
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Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...

Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.

Did you really just say that with a straight face..
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-08-25 20:35:31  
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Altimaomega said: »
Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...



Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.

Did you really just say that with a straight face..

Yes, partial subsidy of premiums would be paid to the insurance company at the same rate if that person never made a claim. You're woefully misinformed.
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-25 20:38:19  
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Altimaomega said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Why do all you ACA supporters thinnk its okay for taxpayers to pay for these things.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/25/obamacare-now-pays-for-gender-reassignment.html

About 3/4 way into the article this pops up. "Late last year, Payne’s wife, who had battled alcoholism for years, died of liver disease." sigh...



Taxpayers aren't really paying for the surgery just because the person's insurance is partially subsidized. You'd have a better case if this was medicaid or something. It's also classified as a medical treatment, if the insurance company hasn't specifically stated that they won't cover this kind of surgery, they should be the target of your ire.

Did you really just say that with a straight face..

Yes, partial subsidy of premiums would be paid to the insurance company at the same rate if that person never made a claim. You're woefully misinformed.

What exactly is your definition of "subsidy"?
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-25 20:45:20  
Not getting into the argument of gender reassignment surgery being medically unnecessary and shouldn't be covered by insurance (like plastic surgery that isn't to fix corrections of other needed surgery, or accident, etc).

But why shouldn't the taxpayers be paying for needed medical costs?

edit: you want to fix insurance? get rid of for-profit insurance and other forms of healthcare. Stockholder's bottom line shouldn't be involved in medical care.
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-25 20:49:28  
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Not getting into the argument of gender reassignment surgery being medically unnecessary and shouldn't be covered by insurance (like plastic surgery that isn't to fix corrections of other needed surgery, or accident, etc).

But why shouldn't the taxpayers be paying for needed medical costs?

edit: you want to fix insurance? get rid of for-profit insurance and other forms of healthcare. Stockholder's bottom line shouldn't be involved in medical care.


Can the non-profit insurance company pay its employee's, and would I be required by law to be in it?

You wanna define what a government subsidy is for jassik?
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-25 20:51:53  
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Jetackuu said: »
Not getting into the argument of gender reassignment surgery being medically unnecessary and shouldn't be covered by insurance (like plastic surgery that isn't to fix corrections of other needed surgery, or accident, etc).

But why shouldn't the taxpayers be paying for needed medical costs?

edit: you want to fix insurance? get rid of for-profit insurance and other forms of healthcare. Stockholder's bottom line shouldn't be involved in medical care.


Can the non-profit insurance company pay its employee's, and would I be required by law to be in it?

You wanna define what a government subsidy is for jassik?

Yes, and yes, and no, he knows what they are.

I'll remind you that the insurance mandate is a Republican idea, 100%.
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By Altimaomega 2014-08-25 21:01:01  
Jetackuu said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Not getting into the argument of gender reassignment surgery being medically unnecessary and shouldn't be covered by insurance (like plastic surgery that isn't to fix corrections of other needed surgery, or accident, etc).

But why shouldn't the taxpayers be paying for needed medical costs?

edit: you want to fix insurance? get rid of for-profit insurance and other forms of healthcare. Stockholder's bottom line shouldn't be involved in medical care.


Can the non-profit insurance company pay its employee's, and would I be required by law to be in it?

You wanna define what a government subsidy is for jassik?

Yes, and yes, and no, he knows what they are.

I'll remind you that the insurance mandate is a Republican idea, 100%.

If you wanna call the people who came up with it Republicans. I don't recall a super majority of republicans pushing it though congress either. Was it even brought up for a vote it the republican agenda?

If your non-profit insurance pays its employees and it cuts the cost so drastically, why would you need to force people to buy it?
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By Jetackuu 2014-08-25 21:01:49  
Republicans created it...

Honestly, we should just have single payer, but if the insurance system must stay, then it should be non-profit. Why must everyone pay into it? because everyone uses it, and the people who don't, when they do need to use it, cost more because they couldn't go due to $ restraints. That was the entire purpose of pushing to get people insured in the first place...

Stop reading into the hype and actually pay attention, oh wait, I forget who I'm talking to.
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