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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 14:01:38
If you think the Huffington Post is a reliable media outlet, you have been smoking too much. That colored text in the story? Some of them "link" to actual source material where you can read or hear his statements firsthand. You activate links by clicking on them. Give it a try! You mean to links from firebrandprogressives.com and theweek.com as the sources to Puffington Post?
And those sources are totally legit, no agenda in them either?
That's like saying "Dude, I totally heard from this one guy I know who share the same viewpoints as me that Obama is gay, so it must be true because that other side said so!"
...oh wait, that's the entire liberal media in a nutshell...
Edit: Paged like a MFer, so here are 3 camels laughing at you:
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 14:19:58
Mouseover isn't clicking. Clicking brings up more information \o/
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 14:24:55
A reverse Obama that actually sounds good. Reverse Obama is a guy born in Alaska unites the country and stops apologizing for America. He wouldn't dance on Ellen. Stop the keystone pipeline. etc. no part of the keystone pipeline will benefit the average American. This is one point that absolute drives me mad. Oil. Fracking. Pipelines. Irresponsible timber harvesting. Coal mining/burning. There was a time when Republicans/conservatives believed in protecting the environment and regulating the jackasses trying to abuse it in the name of greed. There are no Republicans anymore. Just libertarians masquerading as such whilst suffering psychotic episodes of Christian delusion. Wasn't going to mention him as despite all his upsides, he had some decidedly painful downsides as well, but yeah. He's definitely an example of the positive things I'm talking about. How many people are all upside and no downside though? Aside from me of course.
Fair enough.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 14:26:09
If you think the Huffington Post is a reliable media outlet, you have been smoking too much. That colored text in the story? Some of them "link" to actual source material where you can read or hear his statements firsthand. You activate links by clicking on them. Give it a try! You mean to links from firebrandprogressives.com and theweek.com as the sources to Puffington Post?
And those sources are totally legit, no agenda in them either?
That's like saying "Dude, I totally heard from this one guy I know who share the same viewpoints as me that Obama is gay, so it must be true because that other side said so!"
...oh wait, that's the entire liberal media in a nutshell...
Edit: Paged like a MFer, so here are 3 camels laughing at you:
What are you talking about, bro?
Firebrand Progressives is clearly not agenda driven. It says so on their website.
Quote: Firebrand Progressives is a left-of-the-political-spectrum blog. A firebrand is defined as one who creates unrest or strife, as in aggressively promoting a cause: an agitator. Throughout the modern era, the firebrand moniker has been synonymous with progressives such as Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Lyndon Johnson, Teddy Kennedy, and more recently Alan Grayson, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Wendy Davis.
Our mission is to provide edgy, entertaining, and thought-provoking political commentary, insight, and opinion that doesn’t pull any punches. While we make no qualms as to our political persuasion or the fact that our blog is firmly rooted in liberal ideology, it is critical to us that we rely on established facts and cited sources for the basis of our articles.
We hope you enjoy our site and find it to be a compliment to your other sources of daily news and commentary, and we encourage you to share anything you find to be of interest to you.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 14:27:21
If you think the Huffington Post is a reliable media outlet, you have been smoking too much. That colored text in the story? Some of them "link" to actual source material where you can read or hear his statements firsthand. You activate links by clicking on them. Give it a try! You mean to links from firebrandprogressives.com and theweek.com as the sources to Puffington Post? And those sources are totally legit, no agenda in them either? That's like saying "Dude, I totally heard from this one guy I know who share the same viewpoints as me that Obama is gay, so it must be true because that other side said so!" ...oh wait, that's the entire liberal media in a nutshell... Edit: Paged like a MFer, so here are 3 camels laughing at you:
They may not be the pinacle of objective journalism, but their direct quotes are generally accurate.
Anything else aside, I must admit to enjoying your "paged!" hijinx. Continue.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 14:30:59
Not the pinnacle of objective journalism is an understatement.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 14:31:39
I might as well directly link stories from rt.com then.
By fonewear 2014-06-12 14:32:12
Not the pinnacle of objective journalism is an understatement.
Journalism what is that ? Some sort of person that writes in a journal ?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 14:33:55
Not the pinnacle of objective journalism is an understatement.
I need to be understated at times, otherwise my bombasticity is not properly savored.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 14:35:18
Not the pinnacle of objective journalism is an understatement.
Journalism what is that ? Some sort of person that writes in a journal ? It's called a diary damnit!
Oh wait...
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 14:36:45
Not the pinnacle of objective journalism is an understatement. Journalism what is that ? Some sort of person that writes in a journal ?
It's something I'm not qualified to do anymore because I have a journalism degree, and professional standards are just not ok in today's media environment.
Luckily between the fundamentals of objective journalism combined with the public relations aspects of the degree have served me well outside the field. I make a damn site more now than I probably ever would have in the field.
It just took serving my sentence at Walmart first.
By fonewear 2014-06-12 14:37:03
I wrote in a journal once. I felt so introspective. I almost felt the need to do it again. Almost.
It is the type of writing you see at Starbucks. Introspective writing that no one but the author will read. Very impressive.
Soon as I finish this latte I'll complete the next great American novel.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 14:41:51
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 16:52:46
They may not be the pinacle of objective journalism, but their direct quotes are generally accurate. Direct quotes buried at least 3 times told by 3 different people, and you don't think that the words won't get a little skewed?
Bob said that Shella said that Peggy said that George said that Mike said that Paul said that you are stupid.
Except Paul said that you are ok. George thinks you are an idiot, Shella said that you are a moron, and Bob heard stupid.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-06-12 16:56:58
Gov. Rick Perry Likens Homosexuality to Alcoholism
I personally view this as progress! It's better than Antonin Scalia's compassion of homosexuality to bestiality!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 17:00:25
Quote: A helicopter jump might not have been the most special part of Former President George H.W. Bush's birthday on Thursday. Bush also got a personal phone call and gift from Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Bush spokesman Jim McGrath confirmed the interaction to Business Insider.
"Yes, they spoke at 2 p.m.," he wrote. "President Putin also sent a portrait. ... It is a portrait of President Bush as a young Navy ensign in his dress whites."
The Kremlin's official English-language Twitter feed also wished Bush well Thursday afternoon.
"Vladimir Putin congratulated George W. Bush on the 90th anniversary," the Kremlin said. (George W. Bush is actually the elder Bush's son.)
The younger Bush famously painted a portrait of Putin. Source
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2014-06-12 17:04:55
the way he ties himself into a knot to convince people he isn't one of the most harmful justices we've ever had? Ties himself into a knot? I don't think so. His legal reasoning and logic is there. You should check out his book Reading Law. It's amazing.
He is a horrible justice in that his opinions are so conservative and out-of-date, however, that doesn't mean his reasoning/logic is not sound.
By fonewear 2014-06-12 17:44:35
So years of drinking beer has turned me gay ! Damn you Coors Light!
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-12 17:53:10
They may not be the pinacle of objective journalism, but their direct quotes are generally accurate. Direct quotes buried at least 3 times told by 3 different people, and you don't think that the words won't get a little skewed?
Bob said that Shella said that Peggy said that George said that Mike said that Paul said that you are stupid.
Except Paul said that you are ok. George thinks you are an idiot, Shella said that you are a moron, and Bob heard stupid.
Your point is taken, but even by your own estimation Republicans in your state focus too much on social/Biblical issues instead of real ones.
Even if the quote is warped (which I have no idea one way or the other, but assume minimally), is it wrong to think that this is essentially how he feels?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:04:42
Your point is taken, but even by your own estimation selective Republicans in your state focus too much on social/Biblical issues instead of real ones. ftfy
Not all Republicans are the same, you only hear about the worst offenders.
Like how not all Democrats are the same, you only hear about the worst offenders.
Even if the quote is warped (which I have no idea one way or the other, but assume minimally), is it wrong to think that this is essentially how he feels? He quoted a bunch of scriptures and then goes on an implication of those scriptures.
If he did anything wrong, it was that he gave an opinion on what he thinks the Bible said. But, you know, he even went on to say that he wouldn't pass it in state legislation.
But you don't see that little tidbit in the Huffington Post or most of their sources (even though that is where that little tidbit came from).
It is called selective reporting, and it is something the liberal media is guilty of doing nearly 100% of the time. Which is why nobody takes them seriously anymore (except liberals, like Pleebo).
inb4 Pleebo claiming he isn't a liberal, because that would prevent him of later on denying that he wasn't a liberal when the ***hits the fan. You know, plausible deniability.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 18:11:55
So years of drinking beer has turned me gay ! Damn you Coors Light! Good old Perry. Up to his shenanigans again.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 18:13:23
Sixth paragraph down
Quote: "That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins." It is called selective reading, and it is something Kingnobody is guilty of doing nearly 100% of the time. Which is why nobody takes him seriously anymore (especially liberals, like Pleebo).
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:15:12
So years of drinking beer has turned me gay ! Damn you Coors Light! Good old Perry. Up to his shenanigans again. Well, I would have agreed with you, but then I saw what he said.
Just another liberal media outlet skewing another conservative's quote. Nothing to see here folks.
Quote: “Whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that,” Perry said when asked whether homosexuality is a disorder at an event at the Commonwealth Club of California. “I may have the genetic coding that I’m inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that.”
Basically, he did not compare being gay to being an alcoholic, he just said that you have a choice of being gay, like you have a choice of being an alcoholic. But, like normal puppets, they jump on key words and throw out the meaning of the rest of the sentence.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:17:53
Sixth paragraph down
Quote: "That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins." It is called selective reading, and it is something Kingnobody is guilty of doing nearly 100% of the time. Which is why nobody takes him seriously anymore (especially liberals, like Pleebo). Sorry that I did not see that. Especially since I didn't go further than what their "sources" reported (I didn't read the Post's article because I can see *** faster than you apparently).
But please, continue to use the Huffington Post as your Bible.
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By Ragnarok.Overdragon 2014-06-12 18:25:51
The biggest problem with liberals is that everything they believe eventually begins with blaming ppl for most things that are far beyond our control and then they base their complaints on a feeling of shame/superiority.
Case in point. (Global warming,climate change, etc). They blame the successful of anyone for damaging the earth and presume to know how to fix a problem that their own scientists call a religion. They are so short sighted and gullible.
The easiest way to deal with them is to take the subject to its logical end. At that point emotions are completely out of it. Fact, = facts and facts will stand.
Conservative think beyond the emotion and see it to the end. Taking into account how it will effect/affect others as it moves onward.
Liberals think of the immediate problem and tries to deal it, regardless of the collateral damage that will follow. Buy hey, the feel like they done something. Success doesn't matter. Only the good feeling do.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 18:26:59
I thought we actually came to an understanding in the other thread that being gay is not a choice. That is the actual meaning behind his statement and that's why he's being called an idiot (again).
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 18:28:27
Oh another person who doesn't understand climate science. We definitely needed more of those.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:29:09
Ragnarok.Overdragon said: »The biggest problem with liberals is that everything they believe eventually begins with blaming ppl for most things that are far beyond our control and then they base their complaints on a feeling of shame/superiority.
Case in point. (Global warming,climate change, etc). They blame the successful of anyone for damaging the earth and presume to know how to fix a problem that their own scientists call a religion. They are so short sighted and gullible.
The easiest way to deal with them is to take the subject to its logical end. At that point emotions are completely out of it. Fact, = facts and facts will stand.
Conservative think beyond the emotion and see it to the end. Taking into account how it will effect/affect others as it moves onward.
Liberals think of the immediate problem and tries to deal it, regardless of the collateral damage that will follow. Buy hey, the feel like they done something. Success doesn't matter. Only the good feeling do. True.
Liberals think with their hearts (and other body parts) and not with their brains. They are emotional, and please emotional people.
Conservatives feel with their brains, and not with their hearts. They are rational, but that makes them seem uncaring.
That is the two strongest differences between the two extremes.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-12 18:30:40
Ragnarok.Overdragon said: »The biggest problem with liberals is that everything they believe eventually begins with blaming ppl for most things that are far beyond our control and then they base their complaints on a feeling of shame/superiority.
Case in point. (Global warming,climate change, etc). They blame the successful of anyone for damaging the earth and presume to know how to fix a problem that their own scientists call a religion. They are so short sighted and gullible.
The easiest way to deal with them is to take the subject to its logical end. At that point emotions are completely out of it. Fact, = facts and facts will stand.
Conservative think beyond the emotion and see it to the end. Taking into account how it will effect/affect others as it moves onward.
Liberals think of the immediate problem and tries to deal it, regardless of the collateral damage that will follow. Buy hey, the feel like they done something. Success doesn't matter. Only the good feeling do.
I we replace "liberal" with "negro" and "conservative" with "white", we get to the heart of your statement. "I assume a position of superiority and project my insecurities on a group of people without evidence"
BTW, do you ever start a post with anything other than "the problem with liberals..."?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:30:52
I thought we actually came to an understanding in the other thread that being gay is not a choice You still choose to sleep with people of the same sex.
Or are you going to say that you are being forced to be gay?
Which explains a lot of how you want to take personal responsibility out of everyone's hands (give them an excuse of "I didn't do it, Bill Nye made me do it!")
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