Ebola Patient Coming To U.S.

yet they aren't burning bodies of the dead who died from it or stopping travel from the area

Well, if we are worried about the ashes of the dead people containing the virus (Ive seen this stupid ***on Facebook '________') Then burning the bodies might not be such a hot idea

but burying the dead in mass graves or individually with the possibility of contaminating resources is better?

Discuss.

Nobody is saying to panic, they are saying that the CDC needs to improve their protocols for Ebola infected patients. There's a big problem when a nurse gets infected with Ebola and it's due to down playing Ebola.

This whole "the CDC knows what there doing shut up everyone" mentality has failed. Their protocols got a nurse infected.

As a few of my nurse friends pointed out, it's ridiculous that the CDC uses vinyl gloves, boots, and/or haz-mat suits for Ebola clean up when nurses are merely given isolation gowns which have saturation limits and gloves out of a box that can tear.

Ebola is a virus, therefore biological. If burned at the appropriate temperature, there is no way ashes will contain any live remnants of virus.

So where do you put the ashes of the burned bodies :< It ends up going to the same places...or a landfill.

The idea is flawed either way.

System failures with mortality rates up to 90% are a pretty serious problem.

does the virus survive fire?

I agree. The downplaying of Ebola, specifically to medical practitioners, is a serious issue. Additionally, the CDC scapegoating is just ridiculous. They need to accept blame for their Ebola protocol and failure to properly educate medical staff.

The CDC due to faulty Ebola protocols potentially could have killed this woman. Rather than accepting blame and improving protocols they scapegoat. Are you *** kidding me? No wonder American nurses are pissed.

Wait, so we know that the protocol was followed? Or we know that it wasn't?

Officials have said Pham wore protective gear, including a gown, gloves, a mask and a face shield, while caring for Duncan on multiple occasions. But Ebola can easily infect those who come into contact with the bodily fluids of Ebola patients, and the smallest slip in putting on or taking off protective gear can open the door to the virus

“I’m doing well and want to thank everyone for their kind wishes and prayers. I am blessed by the support of family and friends and am blessed to be cared for by the best team of doctors and nurses in the world here at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas,” she said in her statement.

I've had the same basic training of dealing with potential infections due to working for a hospital (the one I did stuff for required everyone to take it, not just the medical staff, although I'm going to assume for a minute theirs is much more detailed and rigorous) if you follow basic protocol, then you'll be fine. This is just sad.

Currently our healthcare system allows for private hospitals to decide what protocols they choose to follow. What kind of personal protection they choose to supply. What kind of isolation rooms and how they handle waste.

Co-President of National Nurses United has very interesting commentaries on hospital and CDC protocols.

Thanks, Obam-Oh wait, private hospitals.

Going to be real: Bonnie sounds like a total cuntbag.

does the virus survive fire?

The most common time-temperature relationships for sterilization with hot air sterilizers are 170°C (340°F) for 60 minutes, 160°C (320°F) for 120 minutes, and 150°C (300°F) for 150 minutes.

All persons entering the patient room should wear at least:
Gloves
Gown (fluid resistant or impermeable)
Eye protection (goggles or face shield)
Facemask
Additional PPE might be required in certain situations (e.g., copious amounts of blood, other body fluids, vomit, or feces present in the environment), including but not limited to:
Double gloving
Disposable shoe covers
Leg coverings

CDC sets the minimum recommendations, but it's ultimately the hospital's responsibility to both follow them and take extra precautions if needed. It's not a regulatory agency.

It's not a regulatory agency.

Feds could have done more in Dallas Ebola case, CDC director says

DALLAS — Ebola has haunted Dallas for two weeks, killing one man and infecting a nurse who was treating him.

In hindsight — CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden said on Tuesday — the nation’s health protection agency should have stepped in and taken control when the country’s first Ebola case emerged in Dallas.

“Getting it right is really, really important because the stakes are so high,” Frieden said during a news conference. “We could have sent a more robust hospital infection control team and been more hands on with the hospital from Day One about how this should be managed.”

From now on, Frieden said, the CDC will rush a team of infectious disease specialists to assist U.S. hospitals that confirm having a case of the deadly Ebola virus.

“We will put a team on the ground within hours with some of the world's leading experts in how to take care of and protect health care workers from Ebola infection,” Frieden said. “I wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the first patient was diagnosed.”

Instead, the CDC repeatedly assured the public that Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas could aptly treat the first case of Ebola that was diagnosed in the United States.

Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian citizen who had recently traveled from Ebola-ravaged West Africa, died at the hospital last Wednesday.

Two days after his death, Nina Pham, a critical care nurse who had treated Duncan, felt a fever and was isolated at Texas Health Presbyterian. Her positive test for Ebola marked the first transmission of the virus in the United States. A hospital spokesperson said Pham was in good condition late on Tuesday.

Texas Health Presbyterian officials have said Pham, 26, wore protective clothing and insist staff followed safety precautions issued by the CDC.

How Pham, a nurse for four years, contracted Ebola hasn’t been determined, but Frieden has said he believes there was a breach in safety procedures.

For that reason, the CDC director said he regrets not having his experts on the ground sooner.

“That might have prevented this infection,” he said. “I am thinking of her constantly and hoping for her steady recovery.”

Several prominent lawmakers have recently pressed President Obama to name an “Ebola czar” to oversee the government’s response, but White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest dismissed the notion on Tuesday.

Asked if Frieden still retains the president’s confidence, Earnest replied, “He does.”

Texas Health Presbyterian, which has received criticism for its handling of Duncan's case, did not immediately reply to an email seeking comment about Frieden's remarks from Tuesday.

Since Pham’s diagnosis, Frieden said he has fielded phone calls from numerous health care providers who are worried that they aren’t prepared for Ebola.

“We are dealing with a disease that’s unfamiliar in the U.S.,” Frieden said. “Caring for Ebola can be done safely, but it’s hard. We want to make sure that the protocols that we have and the support that we have for health care workers are there on the ground so that we can assist.”

When Duncan was diagnosed on Sept. 30, the CDC sent a dozen epidemiologists to help local officials identify people who the man could have possibly infected. So far, none of the 48 individuals being monitored has become ill.

Another 76 health care workers from Texas Health Presbyterian are also now being monitored for Ebola symptoms, since they, like Pham, were involved in treating Duncan. Some of those staff members have begun expressing fears and requesting health checkups.

“We understand that there's a lot of anxiety among workers, and we want to calm their fears and to attack a case as quickly as possible,” Dr. David Lakey, Texas state health director, said at the news conference. “If symptoms are detected, those individuals will be isolated and very likely will be tested for Ebola. We really do want to err on the side of caution.”

In hindsight — CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden said on Tuesday — the nation’s health protection agency should have stepped in and taken control when the country’s first Ebola case emerged in Dallas.

Actually the protocol is faulty from what my nurse friends are telling me and very different from what CDC employees use. Currently the CDC only recommends isolation gowns, which have saturation limits, basically fluids can still penetrate the gown. Also the gloves medical staff use themselves aren't the best quality and likely to tear. Nitrile, polyeurothane, latex, etc these are made cheaply and stuffed into a box some of which already have small holes. The CDC uses vinyl gloves. The footwear is something my friends also criticized. CDC uses knee-high boots boots.

Basically medical practioners have been recommended this uniform thus far:



While the CDC uses this uniform when dealing with patients.