Ebola Patient Coming To U.S.

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By Enuyasha 2014-10-16 15:53:37  
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Was there another case of Ebola in the states though? (I've been away from civilization for the past week)
Minute (prolly falsified, misreported, or misconstrued) Flare ups. My facebook is full of Ebola ***. But, people are idiots and i have more than two handfuls of Alarmists on my friends list.

Coincidentally, i heard about the Enterovirus outbreak from these same people (A few of them have kids, one of them actually had their child contract it [supposedly, i take it with a grain of salt cause panic induced paranoia makes idiots climb up the wall at anything].)

By the way guys, did you know there's Ebola Zombies? THANKS,OBAMA! NOW WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE AND EBOLA!?!?!?1/
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-16 15:58:05  
You're like a walking contradiction Nausi... you preach personal responsibility then in the next breath you say you have no responsibility for your actions.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-10-16 16:00:51  
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You're like a walking contradiction Nausi... you preach personal responsibility then in the next breath you say you have no responsibility for your actions.

You simply can't read Flav. We've been over this before, and this is simply another example of it.
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By Enuyasha 2014-10-16 16:08:40  
Meanwhile, my search for Commie CDC pictures to christen my page making post...is bearing no fruit. Why have super conservatives not made a commie CDC reference yet :(

This makes me sad for humanity :(
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By Blazed1979 2014-10-16 16:11:54  
two nurses that were caring for the man got ebola?
that's not very reassuring :s
Please don't go into zombie apocalyps US, I am really looking forward to my trip to vegas and miami this xmas :s
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-10-16 16:14:00  
Blazed1979 said: »
vegas

stinks like sewer gas. you have been warned.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-10-16 16:15:56  
Blazed1979 said: »
two nurses that were caring for the man got ebola?
that's not very reassuring :s
Please don't go into zombie apocalyps US, I am really looking forward to my trip to vegas and miami this xmas :s

Yet after all this hub-bub over one person, we're still not considering even restricting flights coming out of the region.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-16 16:16:25  
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
You're like a walking contradiction Nausi... you preach personal responsibility then in the next breath you say you have no responsibility for your actions.

You simply can't read Flav. We've been over this before, and this is simply another example of it.
Maybe you should go back and actually read your own posts...
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-10-16 16:18:58  
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The fact that my existence is personally responsible for undoubtedly impacting other people in negative ways, doesn't mean I'm obligated to cease my existence, or obliged to live a life of positive contribution to other people's interest when it conflicts with my own.
And here we get to the crux of the matter.
If you cause someone harm do to your actions, should you be responsible?
Someone who has a sense of personal responsibility would answer yes, you should be held responsible for the consequences of your actions.
Someone who doesn't have a sense of personal responsibility would say they don't have any obligation to other people, regardless if their actions cause harm.

By your logic, picking up a gun and killing a random person to take their wallet is still being personally responsible.
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I want the government to quarantine illegal immigrants for diseases like scabies and enterovirus 68 because they are bringing in risks to Americans that they otherwise would not be exposed too.
Illegal immigrants aren't some magical vector for diseases. Both scabies and enterovirus D68 have been present in the US previously.
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By Blazed1979 2014-10-16 16:28:26  
Nausi, I can relate and empathize with your perspective on this. You're worried about disease break out in your country. But that's an irrational stretch from 1 ebola patient.

What's not irrational however is to assume the healthcare apparatus in the country are even remotely good enough to contain an outbreak. How the hell did those 2 nurses get Ebola?!
I thought contracting the virus was difficult and you literally had to have their blood or saliva or mucus splattered on you.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-10-16 16:33:15  
They literally had his blood, saliva, and mucus splattered on them.
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By Enuyasha 2014-10-16 16:33:48  
Blazed1979 said: »
Nausi, I can relate and empathize with your perspective on this. You're worried about disease break out in your country. But that's an irrational stretch from 1 ebola patient.

What's not irrational however is to assume the healthcare apparatus in the country are even remotely good enough to contain an outbreak. How the hell did those 2 nurses get Ebola?!
I thought contracting the virus was difficult and you literally had to have their blood or saliva or mucus splattered on you.
Please dont feed the troll. Obviously something came into contact with them directly (Improper disposal of protective gear, such as maybe touching gloves and then touching their face, etc.). Ebola is not transmitted via the air.

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They literally had his blood, saliva, and mucus splattered on them.
and this.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-10-16 16:33:56  
Blazed1979 said: »
Nausi, I can relate and empathize with your perspective on this. You're worried about disease break out in your country. But that's an irrational stretch from 1 ebola patient.

What's not irrational however is to assume the healthcare apparatus in the country are even remotely good enough to contain an outbreak. How the hell did those 2 nurses get Ebola?!
I thought contracting the virus was difficult and you literally had to have their blood or saliva or mucus splattered on you.
Rather than handling him as a potentially high risk patient with associated handling/protocols, and then downgrading based on confirmed test results, they apparantly did the opposite (handled as less threatening, then upgraded to higher).
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-10-16 16:36:29  
EV68 was extremely rare until the last decade, whether immigrants are responsible is questionable, but there've been more cases in the last year than the last 50.. not really buying 'present in the US previously' as a complete explanation
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-10-16 16:51:47  
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Blazed1979 said: »
vegas

stinks like sewer gas. you have been warned.

Can't be as bad as NOLA. Drunk fecal matter...That's just Ebola waiting to happen!
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By Valefor.Yoloswag 2014-10-16 16:55:13  
this may sound a bit racist to some. but had a discussion earlier today. and the term white knight was used. I mentioned I play a dark knight in XI. friend said that's racists. should be called african american knight. Then another friend said ebola knight...

dark knights = ebola knights
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By Enuyasha 2014-10-16 17:05:39  
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
vegas

stinks like sewer gas. you have been warned.

Can't be as bad as NOLA. Drunk fecal matter...That's just Ebola waiting to happen!
Only the tourists and soulless sellouts will be infected, nothing lost nothing gained :9

Im more worried about the Ebola Zombies...we cant use the superdome as a shelter anymore...maybe the convention center will work!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-10-16 17:58:39  
Blazed1979 said: »
two nurses that were caring for the man got ebola?
that's not very reassuring :s
Please don't go into zombie apocalyps US, I am really looking forward to my trip to vegas and miami this xmas :s
Well ***, I'm supposed to go back to Vegas in a few months.

Come on Murica, get your ***together.
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By Blazed1979 2014-10-16 18:35:29  
Valefor.Yoloswag said: »
this may sound a bit racist to some. but had a discussion earlier today. and the term white knight was used. I mentioned I play a dark knight in XI. friend said that's racists. should be called african american knight. Then another friend said ebola knight...

dark knights = ebola knights
Sounds like a cool movie.

"Africa II - Ebolanized" Teaser:

From the Continent that gave us Aids comes a new tale of a people's obsession with eating monkeys.

Cut to Dave Chappelle

"I don't just have sex with the monkeys, I eat em! Y'all thought Aids was it, surprise Mothaf_ckas, EBOLA!"

In a clinic near you, sometime in 2015.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-10-16 18:45:12  
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White House rejects calls for Ebola travel ban

WASHINGTON — Warning that Americans are losing faith in their government's ability to stop Ebola, Republican lawmakers on Thursday pressed for a ban on travel to the U.S. from the West African outbreak zone. The White House resisted the idea and tried to tamp down fear as the pool of Americans being monitored expanded.While a contentious congressional hearing focused on the three cases of Ebola diagnosed within the U.S., the World Health Organization said the outbreak in West Africa was on pace to top 4,500 deaths this week alone. President Barack Obama authorized the call-up of reserve and National Guard troops in case they are needed as part of the up-to-4,000 military personnel being sent to help with the crisis in West Africa.Called to Capitol Hill for special hearing, federal health officials emphasized the importance of stopping the virus in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea to protect Americans and the rest of the world from its spread."You're right, it needs to be solved in Africa. But until it is, we should not be allowing these folks in, period," replied Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich. He called for a ban on the 100 to 150 people who fly into the U.S. each week from the three nations at the heart of the outbreak."People's lives are at stake, and the response so far has been unacceptable," declared Upton, chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee.At the White House, spokesman Josh Earnest rejected a travel ban. He said the U.S. was already taking the necessary steps to protect the public, because passengers are screened as they depart West Africa and most are checked for fever again when they arrive at a U.S. airport.Besides, he said, imposing a ban might lead travelers "to go underground and to seek to evade this screening and to not be candid about their travel history in order to enter the country."Earnest said the chances for a widespread outbreak in the U.S. remain "exceedingly low," despite shortcomings in the government's initial responses. Health officials said the same.Frieden told lawmakers that investigators still don't know how two Dallas nurses caught Ebola while caring for a Liberian man who died at their hospital. Thomas Eric Duncan was the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States since the West African outbreak began in March.To protect other medical workers while the investigation continues, Frieden said, the CDC is focusing on improving safety procedures.He said one of the sick nurses was being moved Thursday from the Texas hospital to a specialized federal facility in Maryland. The other nurse has been transferred to an Atlanta hospital that has one of only four bio-containment units in the U.S.Nations and global bodies continued to grapple with the crisis:— In Sierre Leone, the government said that two cases had turned up in what was the country's last untouched district. The mountainous Koinadugu district had been the only place in Sierra Leone "where you can go and breathe a sigh of relief, said John Caulker, the executive director of the nonprofit Fambul Tok. "To know that now in the whole country no district is safe is heartrending."— In Spain, the condition of a nursing assistant infected with Ebola at a Madrid hospital appeared to be improving, but a person who came in contact with her before she was hospitalized developed a fever and was being tested. That second person is not a health care worker, a Spanish Health Ministry spokesman said.— In Geneva, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, Zeid Raad al-Hussein, paired the Ebola outbreak and the Islamic State group as "twin plagues" that will cost the world many billions of dollars to overcome.— The United Nations made an urgent appeal for more money to fight the disease. A U.N. trust fund launched to raise $1 billion has taken in only $20 million, and most has been spent. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said, "Ebola is a huge and urgent global problem that demands a huge and urgent global response."— France said it will begin screening passengers who arrive at Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport on the once-daily flight from Guinea's capital.In the U.S. on Thursday, Customs and health officials at airports in Chicago, Atlanta, suburban Washington and Newark, New Jersey, were beginning to take the temperatures of passengers from the three West African countries. The screenings, using no-touch thermometers, started Saturday at New York's Kennedy International Airport.Obama, who directed his administration to respond more aggressively to the virus at home, made calls about Ebola to foreign heads of state as well as congressional leaders at home. He canceled a campaign trip for the second day in a row to focus on the outbreak.The revelation that one of the Dallas nurses was cleared to fly on a commercial airline the day before she was diagnosed generated much criticism on Capitol Hill.Seven people in northeast Ohio were in voluntary quarantine because they had contact with the nurse, Amber Joy Vinson, who visited family in the Akron area last weekend before flying from Cleveland back to Dallas.Some school and hospital employees also were staying home amid concerns that they might have had contact with her, and a store where she shopped was closed Thursday as a precaution.Still, health officials in Ohio emphasized that Vinson didn't show symptoms during her visit and therefore shouldn't have been contagious yet. The disease isn't airborne; it's spread through direct contact with bodily fluids.As a result of the failure to protect the two nurses from infection and other mistakes, "the American public loses confidence each day," said Rep. Tim Murphy, R-Pa., chairman of the House panel conducting Thursday's hearing.Frieden offered assurances that Americans who haven't traveled recently to West Africa need not worry about catching the deadly disease.

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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-10-16 18:45:57  
well that c/p sux... im not spending time to paragraph that whole thing out... just check source'
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-10-16 18:57:52  
Blazed1979 said: »
someone give me the short synopsis on the ebola situation in the states. I don't want to spend an hour back-reading.

Democrats are underplaying it because it's a political liability. Republicans are overplaying it because it's a political asset. Altima is global warming-ing it because lol Jetackuu.
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2014-10-16 21:38:50  
hey guys one of the ebola nurses is coming to Maryland where I live

who wants my PS4 when I die
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By Phoenix.Dabackpack 2014-10-16 21:39:51  
haha just kidding

i don't have a ps4
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-10-16 22:29:30  
I am going to say something nice about Nausi.

Cool new avi gif Nausi!
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By Siren.Sieha 2014-10-16 22:33:49  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
someone give me the short synopsis on the ebola situation in the states. I don't want to spend an hour back-reading.

Democrats are underplaying it because it's a political liability. Republicans are overplaying it because it's a political asset. Altima is global warming-ing it because lol Jetackuu.

and in the end, we are all going to die because no one wants to put the money into it that is needed.
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By Altimaomega 2014-10-16 22:41:37  
Siren.Sieha said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
someone give me the short synopsis on the ebola situation in the states. I don't want to spend an hour back-reading.

Democrats are underplaying it because it's a political liability. Republicans are overplaying it because it's a political asset. Altima is global warming-ing it because lol Jetackuu.

and in the end, we are all going to die because no one wants to put the money into it that is needed.

Just tax it, like Climate Change, Rich People and Health Care . Problem solved!

P.S. This being a democrat thing is easy. Dunno why i didn't try it sooner.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-16 22:58:47  
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Oops Jet called me a hypocrite, I'm ROFLing as we speak. I'm not canceling my plans so you don't have to get my strep. Call me a selfish *** if you must, but otherwise prepare yourself, take your "cold ease", and bring your hand sanitizer. You don't have the right to quarantine me for something as trivial as a strep, and my proximity to you on a plane places you in no mortal danger. Feel entitled to sue me if you must, but you're gonna end up *** off.

You can laugh all you want but it couldn't be more accurate.

That makes you selfish and a ***, but if I did manage to catch something from you and could prove it was due to your negligence I could sue you, 'Murica. (Doubt it though, as I never get sick, as well I'm not an idiot, and wash my hands, etc).

Strep can kill you, but then again I don't expect you to comprehend that.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-16 23:00:40  
Bahamut.Soraishin said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I think he has "personal responsibility" mixed up with looking out for ol' #1 and only #1!

Indeed, not sure why Jetacku is even humoring him at this point , cmon people
Somebody has to.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-16 23:01:08  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
They literally had his blood, saliva, and mucus splattered on them.
and then somehow ingested it, or got it into an orifice.
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