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I doubt it, lol. I know A LOT of people with multiple aeonics, more than half of them aren't even hardcore nor serious/dedicated players, but very very few ppl has all 3 wins. The people who "keep up" that you talk about are more like 1% of playerbase. Although it's probably due to general lack of interest so no one really bother to try. But making those BCs relevant would at least give 95% of playerbase a new goal to work on for now, even if it's not the hardest content in FFXI endgame history anymore.

I agree with game needing a new content, in general. But using content already exist in game seems like less work.

Highest goals difficulty...... WTF are you smoking. It's crafted gear, it's not difficult... at all.


One sec, let me go do this "difficulty"..

*pulls out credit card*

Well guys guess I now own all the "difficult" stuff. Beat the game in 24hrs. Too easy, get on my level bro, learn2play.

Right now there is absolutely zero difficulty in the crafting system. It's nothing more then a dice roll with zero input from the player. It's no different then walking into a casino and pulling the lever on a slot machine.

I don't think he meant it' actually difficult. Given the low percentages of HQs, it's a time and gil grind given the relative likelihood of success.

Not ideal, but at least it gives you something to work towards to improve your character given the lack of new content. Making it easier is not ideal, unless it is replaced by new better gear that is challenging to get.

When there isn't something we can strive for, there will cease being a "we."

You don't come at Comeatmebro and use "then" instead of "than" twice during your attack... have you learned nothing?

He said verbatim that it was.


It's neither of those, someone merely whips out their VISA and instantly accomplishes that goal.

The only people who are going to be miffed about this update would be the ones exploiting custom packet injectors to get a HQ tier higher then possible and making mass amounts of gil.

I get that people buy gil, gil sellers wouldn't exist if there was no demand.

But that doesn't mean everyone buys gil. For a lot of people, the gil required to land a top tier HQ is a time grind.

VISA can buy master trial wins. It can buy aeonics. Your point is hollow, and you're trying way too hard.

What new improvements have been offered in the last 6 months that weren't crafted?

Surely if the only new gear is crafted, then keeping it rare has a longevity benefit. It's not my problem if you're too stubborn to acknowledge this.

Many people will be glad for it, and it's certainly making gear more accessible. I'm just saying that it's also pushing more people toward the point where they have nothing left to obtain, sooner rather than later.

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Getting HQ crafted gear is just a matter of gil, it's not difficulty. Crafting isn't difficult. Everyone's welcoming this change precisely because it means more T0 synths' available.

I disagree. For many, it is difficult to put up with FFXI's crafting system. :)

Crafting itself isn't difficult, but the gear is difficult to obtain. The only reason people can even use gil to buy it is because someone goes through dozens of synths of something. And the materials to make all those synths have to come from somewhere. Every Su3 synth requires vagary mats, so how much vagary is that done by various people. Then there's the other mats which are also expensive, plus the effort that went into making the shield to be able to even do the craft. So just think about how much combined effort is going into even making 1 HQ and that's why it's difficult (to obtain).

Ok I'll give you that, FFXI's crafting system is ***.

Just a note about this, the wording makes it sound like they're increasing the effects of the seals, but reading the japanese notes, they're just saying that if you do the difficulties that give increased points, you'll get an even increased effect.

You guys are talking like 1) they actually cared to make this game last longer (while it seems to me they are perfectly fine with milking it some more until people realize this low-content update trend is as good ad it gets) and 2) people weren't cheesing the hq rates with glitches regardless.

Serious question for people in this thread...
What would you rather have:

- System where there's a pre-determined top-tier of gear, aka the Armadaberk etc days
OR
- Updates every couple of months where the gear you spent millions on is now a piece of dogshit. Whether it was millions on uncursing it, or throwing augments at it ad nauseum.

I mean, granted the updates have slowed down, but we're the same people who spent years like "*** yeah, they're changing Dia from Divine to Enfeebling skill as this year's update. I bet by July 2059 we find out what happens with Lady Lillith when they wrap up WoTG!" with zero changes to how the game was. None. You had Dyna, Limbus and maybe Salvage.

So now we've had a metric ***ton of QoL updates (esp in XP gain), a bunch of end-gamey content, but the mentality is just to beat it within 30 minutes of release and "OMGGG WHEN IS THE NEW CONTENT?! I'M BORED NOW. I HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN OF A HUMMINGBIRD ON A RED BULL BENDER... OH HEY A BLUE CAR!"

It's gotta be tough to try and develop anything, when you don't know what kind of playerbase to develop it for. Do you make something that requires lots of grinding and luck like original Salvage, or just ***out stat vomit +1, followed by stat vomit.... +2 the following month for the sake of "hey, new shiny thing!"?

As for the crafting update, if it boosts the availability of some HQ stuff, I'm all for it. Sorry to those who spent hundreds of millions of gil on HQ Abj stuff if it plummets in price. >.< It's probably just a case of a low population server mentality on Fenrir, but if more HQ things come around, that's great. It's annoying when you can't find *X Item* because *X Crafters* don't exist as much.

I've been skeptic on these changes because of the consequences they could bring to the market (supposing the boost won't be so small to be irrelevant) and because they seem too good for the non-crafting part of the player-base.

But then again someone pointed out that a good part of the market got skewed regardless because of the huge influx of cheat/glitches that got abused by some people.

And... that is true, it really happened. Seen from that point of view it seems less unrealistic that SE decided to "compensate" by making T0 recipes easier to HQ through these changes.
Supposing that's the reason behind this change, but it would kinda make sense in a way, I guess.

AAHM shouldn't count anyway since it should be a normal Trust included in the the current AATrust questline (eventually.)

Personally, I really hope it's NOT Lady Lilith since she has actual combat animations already and could work as a real Trust instead of this limited time availability/usage BS GEO thing we're getting.
-_-;;

normally, pre-determined top tier gear. however when 1/2 ambuscade gear having +2 version. I want to +2 ALL OF IT! Since RF1 has +2 & 3, I want RF2 & RF3 to have those too. past that, just for the love of god do some more quality of life adjustments, like 10 items to sell on AH, or items only require load on login instead of every time you zone. As far as I'm concerned if they did those two, I could be happy w/o any new gear for like a year.

That's the benefit of not being on a server like Asura. You know who most of the *** are in smaller communities.

I see what you did there.

Second system is far better in the long run then the first. The first runs into the issue of stagnation where a level 49 piece of gear is still damn near the best at level 75. It also runs into supply issues where "the best" is only available to people using cheats and then sucking some HNMLS leaders *** to get priority on the lot ~IF~ it drops. Artificial scarcity and static power growth are bad things for dynamic online RPG games, aka MMO's.

People like to remember "the gold old days" with rose tinted glass's. They are remembering the good times with friends while ignoring the extreme amounts of ***that drove those friends away to begin with.

On the note of crafted gear, HQ SU3's are on the order of 300~400 million gil each, Jinxed jackets are only at 180M because someone's been flooding the market with them via "alternate crafting", historically they were 300~400 million each. That's beyond insane, the cost per synth combined with the ridiculously low T0 HQ rate makes them more akin to a lottery ticket.

When the crafting cost of a single piece of HQ crafted gear is above the cost of an entire REMA, something's wrong with the system.

:o I agree.

Eventually there is going to be a best. At some point they won't make new gear, it's inevitable.


This has always been an issue in ffxi. The crafting system is -garbage- 1 extra strength is not worth 300m. In any scenario.

When the materials are worth MORE than the finished product, the whole system is assbackwards.

gold thread:
200k ingots, 15k silk thread, makes 24 gold thread for 215k.

256 / 24 * 215 = 2.3M

velvet cloth:
4.5k for mats at guild, approx 5% break rate

1 / .95 * 512 * 4.5 = 2.4M

256 malboro fiber @ 50k = 12.8M

256 befouled silver @ 900k = 230.4M

256 penelope's cloth @ 400k = 103M

256 staghorn @ 400k = 103M

sealord skin 300k, approx 5% break rate
1 / .95 * 256 * 300k = 81M

expected results:

16 hexed jacket -1, 227 hexed jacket

243 eschite ore @ 300k = 73M

227 macuil horn @ 1.4M = 318M

227 warblade hides @ 40k = 9M

227 / 64 = 3.5 jackets
16 / 16 = 1 jacket

All in, a full round of synths costs 935M and results in 4.5 HQ jackets and about 225 NQs. At that rate, the cost to produce jinxed jackets with no discrimination, farming, or selling of NQs is approximately 208M per jacket. If you use it to augment your farming(easier to sell 1 jinxed jacket than a gigantic stockpile of staghorn, penelope's, etc..) or bargain shop cross server, you could easily reduce that cost more.

That's not what most people do, though. Hexed jackets only cost 200-500k because they drop in the gobbiebox, have been in multiple login campaigns, and are sold by less savvy sellers. 64 Hexed Jackets@500k, 64 Macuil Horns@1.4M, 64 Warblade Hides@40k, 64 Eschite ore@300k only costs a total of 144M. That leaves 35M of profit on an average round, if you don't have any HQ rings and you drop all your NQs.

Maybe the 180M price is a result of exploits, maybe not. Being 'historically 300-400m' means nothing when material prices have dropped that far. There are currently 32 hexed jackets up for 300k on odin, 13 up for 500k on asura, 8 up for 100k on ragnarok, etc.. that's a 145M jinxed sitting there ripe for the picking.

Where did you get the idea of "no more patches"? Don't make the mistake all those people did last time SE said they weren't updating parts of FFXI.


And it's only gotten worse, the newer gear requires materials that are obscene to obtain in quantities sufficient to actually have an HQ synth. Years ago the HQ synths were expensive but not like this because the materials were still realistically available.

If you look at something like Scorpion Harness or Haubergeon, sure. You may as well be comparing to Voodoo Dalmatica or Voodoo Cuirass.

Sheikh Manteel, HQ plastron set, HQ barone.. the items crafted based on endgame were not only priceless, but nonexistant. When the cap went to 80, there were no more than 5 total Sheikh Manteels in existance. The same can be said of just about everything that was crafted from real endgame drops. If anything, it was worse then.. people just wrote off the gear as unattainable.

No idea what your arguing against, maybe just in general.

I know why the prices are where they are, materials are rare and difficult to farm get in large quantities unless your five or six boxing a lot of stuff with a ***ton of automation. Requiring so many damn synth attempts, due to the obscenely low HQ rate, is what jacks the price into the stratosphere. That is a bad system, period.

And yes the reason the prices are low right now is because a handful of people used "alternate crafting" methods to mass general HQs and are selling them off gradually. This isn't supposition, I know some of them and have discussed this at great length. The ones I know are still sitting on a huge supply of HQ abjurations and just selling them off gradually.