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The ones capable of clearing master trials probably already own enough legendary weapons, idk if that's something super appealing either. Again, it also create bigger gap between top end players and casual players. There will be people capable of finishing one aeonic in 2 days and own 10+ aeonics, and these same people would have the ability to finish 1 mythic in a few days, v.s casual won't even able to finish 1 aeonic and need months to even finish one mythic.

That's a pretty artificial gap, though. If someone has an extra mythic for a rarely played job, it doesn't make them more powerful just more flexible(and often not even that with how much people stick to certain jobs).

Solutions that generate enough gil to be worthwhile cause problems for everyone who can't do them.

Solutions that generate significant strength gain cause imbalance in general.

A solution that simply lowers grinding for those who can do it is much less likely to cause any problems. Keep in mind that even the most effective farmers will need at least 2 hours to get merits and do the BC. If they win 50% of the time, you're up to 12 hours to prep a mythic that way or 16 hours to prep an emp(using a dedicated and capable group the entire time). It's notably shorter, but not out of scale with required effort boost.

I can multibox an aeonic in 2 days with 0 outside help, but somehow people on my server still work on them. You can't eliminate all advantage from gear/knowledge/coordination or people lose the drive to acquire them.

that's how you go crosseyed, the pros use less monitors and higher resolution

Yeah and when ls recruit for new members, top end players with access to multiple well geared jobs are often easier to get in, on the other hand it's a lot harder for casual players who doesn't have REMA. Although you can probably argue that most of the mythics are not relevant in endgame, but the fact is that many endgame ls application forum asks how many REMA do you have, and those without one will have worse app compare with those who has 20 legendary weapons.


Also I believe that long grind in this game still serves a purpose to keep people playing as long as possible. When you reach a point to be able to finish aeonic in 2 days AND finish mythics in a week, idk if there's much point to keep playing, IMO.

Not to mention shorter grind is still not appealing enough to those that don't want 20 mythics.

Personally, I think a situational useful gear or small boost would be good enough. I'm totally willing to do things like master trial for situational gears like phalanx +3 ring, or things like that. You probably aren't going to have an OP character without item like this.

As long people stop complaining about master trial gear isn't god tier.

i don't think the people who can treat master trials as farm status and use it to bypass grinding are the same people trying to get into linkshells..

but i would agree that a small reward like phalanx+3 ring is fine, as long as there's some progression to be made by doing it

i'd even be happy with glowing weapon for every job from each bc, but se probably doesnt want to make 15 weapons each time.. current reward is just lame, has no value unless you care about cosmetics AND play sword or greatsword jobs

My main gripes about the master trials:
* The cosmetic reward weapon is not even visible unless you are engaged. =_=;; Even if you manage to get one, and run around town with one, no one will be able to tell..
* There are no other cosmetic rewards other than the one-cheeked weapon. Seriously, they couldn't bother to even add unique titles?
* I don't think they are even proving to themselves that the fights are beatable w/ actual testing. With the last one, Matsui ran in and got splattered before he could even engage, then laughed about it. (._.)

As far as other potential drops, I'd say that anything amazingly awesome would be a problem due to the difficulty level preventing the majority from having a chance at actually getting one. (The problem here being that I really don't want to be sitting here drooling over something that is essentially impossible for me to obtain, nor do I wish to hear others whine about their inability to obtain.)

I do think that maybe something super-niche which shouldn't carry much risk of disrupting combat balance might work tho. Like an earring with "HHP+100" or "Latent: Movement speed +12%" (which stacks w/ other gear, but turns off if you are on anythings agro list.) I'm sure there are plenty more imaginative options for this type of concept of "That's awesome! But it does nothing to help me kill things faster". Or would something along those lines also fail to be considered worthy of the effort?

Next AMA is reserved for Riftdross rate switch to Riftcinder rate and vis versa. Kthx.

Lol, that Almace grind not treating you so well, Az?

It is but i didnt plan to do Gun also tho ;/

I've never understood this mentality of entitlement. Just because something is in a game, you're entitled to be able to access it on your own terms?

The lack of accessibility is one of the things that used to make FFXI so great. The fact that I could obtain something that few other people had was what made me treasure that thing so highly. I didn't have to have *everything*, because other players didn't have *everything* either. Each person was carving their own path through the game based on what they prioritized in the game.

Now everyone is on the same path: Sparks > Delve > Skirmish > Unity > Escha.

The Shadowlord Master Trial's title is Lux Ex Tenebris, it translates to The Light from the Darkness.


The rest of this isn't in reply to Nyralko. Imo the fights themselves are part of the reward, but then I was the kind of kid who liked setting Doom 2 to nightmare mode just to see how far I could get (Not very far, but I had fun doing it). My Dad, my friends, even my siblings had more fun setting God mode and running through everything but that felt empty to me. I'm drawn to challenge, it makes me feel good. I won't try to explain it, and I'm not saying one thing is better than the other and sure as hell not saying you should be like me this way. What I am saying is that I realize it's not for everyone. Regardless, I hope more people try out master trials because I think they're very fun.

The hardest challenge is a social challenge imo. Finding the right people, and getting them all to agree to die with you over and over, and keep their determination is the Trial, and the same can be said of Aeonics, I've talked to more than one person gear and players weren't the problem for Aeonic clears, it was people willing to stick out all the death to figure it out for themselves as even with given strats there's a ton of trial and error. Getting geared up top end and enough game knowledge to do the fights is the fun part and just playing the game. Finding people to show up on time and wanting to do Black and White, the Odin, 9 Valkyries, and Alexander master trial, has been very socially trying, JP have won these first and the wins recorded for this have all been with RNG setups, to me that's thrilling because I have struggled to bring RNG to content that matters since about 2003 and RNG was my favorite and main job, I only caught the tail end of the Delve era when I came back, and almost no one kept RNG updated and almost no one wants to, and the only friend I had who also loved RNG whether it was meta or not quit. But I'm not giving up. There is a lot of content I could clear, if RNG was a job anyone but me actually wanted to play.

Yesterday I convinced some friends to do low man neak, RNG SCH GEO PLD RDM with Star Sibyl as the trust. We farmed 2 herc bodies and had a lot of fun. RNG can cap accuracy on that with just gear, vorseals and food, then skillchain off fusion to close light while rdm, sch and geo burst. Later we also invited a BLM to join, the skillchain + burst volley took half of its hp when the geo bolstered. Even with stuff like that tho, the number of people wishing to make mythic ranger, or any form of ranger is very few, and I feel except for the Delve era, it's really unpopular in western groups (though it has a very long history I think with JP groups and is much more valued there).

My entire point to all of this, is that I feel master trials are not only fun, but they help showcase jobs that aren't "meta". SL shows off BRD and NIN which the herdmind of the community doesn't think much of for some reason, yet they were super effective there (and NIN was also used in a JP clear of Tumult Curator). BRD is used in tons of endgame content, so not sure why the community thinks it's just a crappy geo. Master trials are giving other jobs something to aim for and do. Right now the game is fairly balanced, Melee are king of BCNMs and many ambuscade as well as UNMs, Mages are at the moment king of escha but suck at most BCNM and have trouble with hard UNM, Pets are hard to come by but used in Escha and BCNMs, though I haven't heard of any high tier UNM clears with pets. Healer and support jobs are varied and all used, though WHM takes the cake of healer of course. BRD is more situational than GEO but is still the only job that can do a lot of what it can do, and same with COR. RDM is discriminated against but is very viable and very useful as an enfeebler and enhancer, silence for WoC for example is not very often used but can save runs when SV pops up.

Wat

Turns out the AMA was the first time they ever heard of the moon-phase, direction and time affecting crafting, so they're going to add it!

:O did I miss something?

Walk of echoes was actually pretty fun to do when not in a group. Hopefully it's worth doing whatever adjustments they are doing to the spoils.

Inb4 next master trial featuring omega and ultima and super extreme mammits or however they were spelled

It is O/U, but man I really don't want mammets to be there. Though based on how they did Odin/Alex they very well could include those...

SE forgot about the HTBF campaigns =/
And no Vagary either, I need it to reduce the price on Staunch Tathlum and Stikini/Varar ring gdi!

The Escha campaign will furtherly reduce the price on the items who depend on Eschite and especially Vulcanite ores, like the newly added ammos for PUP and SMN

Refresh Vorseals gooooooooooooooooooooooo

Are you at 11 already Llewelyn?
I stopped at like 9/11 with the Acc and I'm at like 6 on the Regen/refresh.
Doubt I'll have the will, strength or whatever else is necessary to reach 11 in any of them honestly.
Past 8 it's such a huge and annoying grind...

With both campaigns going it should be pretty fast to rotate between zones though.

50k beads gooooooooo(hopefully)

No CP.

Fail.

I'll absolutely be getting to 8 regen/refresh. Probably going to mostly skip Quetz since I'm already 9 there and he's easy enough anytime. Think I'm at 5/7 or 6/7 with regen/refresh and those are nice ones to have for sure.

<Yawn>

No, I have like 4 in Refresh, lol. I didn't do much last Campaign 'cause I got bored quickly. I'm at I think 6 Regen, 4 Refresh, 9 Acc.

Need beads now, not in a week! ;-)

Same, but double DI campaigns might mean I have to get off my *** and farm them, lol.