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By fillerbunny9 2016-11-24 00:25:20  
seems like I would be best to stick to Banner 1 for Shout 2.0 then, considering how thoroughly broken OK is stats wise at cap.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2016-11-24 01:26:20  
11 x 2 pull = Luneth BSB, 3 Onion Swords + Lust dagger :)
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By Sylph.Cherche 2016-11-24 10:11:53  


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By Sylph.Cherche 2016-11-24 10:24:02  
Odin.Hitoseijuro said: »
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Refia's BSB is arguably the best elemental exploiting SB in the game.
No, no its not.

Kain and Luneth deal way more damage than refia. Refia would have to crit all 4 hits on her command to double her damage(command 1 = 100% crit dmg instead of 50%) to come close to Kain's out put. If you use Fire within then you're gated by 20k per use like Pecil is. However the 2k heal per use is pretty good from Refia.

Refia's BSB excluding abilities and only commands, sure its strong, but you would be hindering most elmental bsb's full potential but not using abilities due to abilities being higher in multipliers over commands which hover 2-2.4 multipliers. Obviously commands with buffs would be used.
Eight single attacks (0,78 each)
Martial Artist's War Dance (50% crit rate)
Attach Fire
Four single ranged attacks (0,49 each), critical hits deal 100% more damage (instead of 50%)
Two group ranged attaks (0,65 each), grants Dark Bargain to the user for 20 seconds

Her main command is going to be averaging a 2.94 multiplier due to crits alone.
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By fillerbunny9 2016-11-24 14:54:27  
alright, I've got the gloves, level 80, now to spam the EXP dungeons in hopes of motes. I thought I read somewhere that the drop rate was about the same regardless of the difficulty, is this true, or should I be spamming the 90 pointer?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-11-24 16:20:40  
Man, did two draws and didn't get OK BSB, but it's looking really good. Hope I don't buy more gems just for it, did that ***for FFXII and never got Penelo's BSB. But OK is looking like a little side-Tyro and great addition to any A-team.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2016-11-24 18:19:40  
I did two pulls and stopped there.

It'll be back in future banners and I have shout as it is; (and no real intention of using a mage/physical hybrid team), plus, can always RW it.

I did get Luneth BSB x2, his SSB; so I went from having no III realm weapons to having 3 (and I got 1 shield, 1 armor, 1 staff that I have pretty much use for); so I'm not upset.

Now time to save mythril for future banners, I'm down to 360
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2016-11-24 23:20:42  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Eight single attacks (0,78 each)
Martial Artist's War Dance (50% crit rate)
Attach Fire
Four single ranged attacks (0,49 each), critical hits deal 100% more damage (instead of 50%)
Two group ranged attaks (0,65 each), grants Dark Bargain to the user for 20 seconds

Her main command is going to be averaging a 2.94 multiplier due to crits alone.

Yeah, I know, I posted what she does a post before when I replied to you...

If we look at things in a vaccum, Refia's bsb will do as much as Kain's or Luneth's bsb, maybe even more over time. You have to probably min/max jump timers to get the most dmg from Kain/Luneth.

However we arent in a vaccum. Bosses have defenses and a set amount of HP. If we are new and only have 1 relic, I would choose Refia. No hones needed, if Refia is doing 70% of the heavy lifting she will do a ton of damage and a better standalone lifter than Kain. If Im not new, I would take Kain. Kain's dps is consistent and doesn't rely on a 2nd use of BSB to deal his damage. His damage is fully loaded in Lightning dive. With two other similar dps I will probably not get to have a second use of my bsb. Kain does on average 100k-125k with Lightning dive alone against a boss(U++) with 3000 def(2550s with FB). Refia does about 79.4k average(52960-105920, no crits -full crits)with Flame Secret. She makes up her damage when she gets a 2nd cast of her BSB.

Due to Refia's crit mods and crit bonus on her ability she has problems with lower defensive Bosses from U and U+ fights. Bosses with anything under 2200 natural defenses are going to bleed her crit damage on her BSB. 1120 for the command, which is not an easy thing so theres not too much to worry there.

Now if I had to pick for the late game, I would pick Luneth. Luneth currently gets an OSB which blows refia/kain away in dps. OSB talk may be irrelevant to some sure.......but its something you should strive to get if you get an elemental bsb.

That being said, I wouldnt call Refia's the "best" elemental bsb. It's one of the best though. Trust me, no one was more psyched for Refia's banner than I was. She is roughly 10k-6k behind Kain and Luneth, even with Kain if you don't jump min/max, Luneth slightly lower because he doesnt have a command that helps get insta-jumps like kain can fall back on.


Now if you want to talk about another heavy hitting BSB, Look out for Zell's bsb, its non elemental, but it packs a punch(no pun) with Life Bane. Can out dps all 3.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-11-25 02:07:06  
4/11.

Tidus. Leon. Noel. Terra.

2/4 are dope as *** (Tidus and Noel), 1 is great since I have nothing better (Terra), 1 is still not bad but not something I plan to use (Leon).

Didn't manage to snag an SS of the actual pull screen cause I got a bit excited at actually not getting dicked on a lucky pull for once but:



proof.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-11-25 02:24:18  
Im estatic!

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By Cerberus.Valmur 2016-11-25 02:28:21  

Yay Ashe
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2016-11-25 02:46:15  
Cloud, Cloud, Jecht

/sigh
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-11-25 04:51:07  
This person officially won the game! Wow just...wow...

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By Cerberus.Valmur 2016-11-25 04:54:03  
Thats some nice BSB
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By Sylph.Cherche 2016-11-25 09:42:12  
1x11 on III : OK BSB×2, Luneth BSB, Arc SSB, Ingus SB

BSB Lucky Draw : Tifa BSB, Bartz BSB

RIP Lightning, Luneth and Fang synergies too well together. Wind elemental team it is.
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By Shiva.Francisco 2016-11-25 11:13:02  
Might just be my being annoyed by legions of 5 year-olds every fifteen seconds over the past 48 hours, but I'm noticing a sudden sharp increase in dungeon difficulty as they get up around level 60.

Pretty sure the problem is the lack of honed abilities, and bosses having significantly more HP. Tiamat (FF1) was a pain in the ***, as was the Temple of Ancients and I think Wutai (FFVII). Deathgaze, I'm not sure I could survive the multiple encounters I'm looking at.
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By Phoenix.Komugichan 2016-11-25 12:31:39  
Was hoping for some Black mage BSSB but one for Rama is just as good as he is in my Main party

This is my current party

I keep Ramza in my party as Tailwind can be quite helpful when you need to keep SS up having BSSB for Lightning, Vaan, and Faris. Getting Ramza's BSSB can prove to be helpful in instance of boss being almost dead.
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By fillerbunny9 2016-11-25 12:50:03  
after pulling so hard on III to get OK BSB, think I am definitely going to skip the black friday banner. I am doing quite well for bursts (Cloud, Vaan, Ramza and Eiko in my A-team alone, as well as the ability to sub in Beatrix for Agrias) as well as OSB for both Cloud (and Tidus when I want that X Synergy). with the mythril that they are throwing at us, I feel like I would be better off spending it for another chance at Kain's if I hit 50 before that banner is gone.
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By Bloodrose 2016-11-25 16:03:53  
Just got Firion's and Penelo's BSB.
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By eliroo 2016-11-25 16:20:04  
Pulled Minwu's BSB for the Black Friday, not sure how I feel about it. Feels like I could have used another 50 to disappoint myself diving for OK's BSB.
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By Ciri Zireael 2016-11-25 18:30:22  
Tiny Bee and Ninurta. Joy.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2016-11-25 20:49:08  
Penelo Bsb off the lucky draw, and 3x rods for Arc, Gungnir and Arc's robe from 3 pulls on OK banner 1
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By Bahamut.Vinedrius 2016-11-26 13:38:37  
Rikku and Fang BSB from the lucky banner, Ingus Shield SB from FF3 banner... 100 mythrils down the drain.
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By Ciri Zireael 2016-11-26 17:20:28  
Rikku and Fang BSB aren't bad, hardly a waste.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2016-11-26 17:38:52  
Isn't Rikku's BSB the only, or one of the only, water-imperils atm? Tidus' BFF, basically.

Fang's BSB pairs really well with Luneth. Bartz and Squall benefit rather well too.
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By Shiva.Francisco 2016-11-26 19:43:55  
I guess I'll find out in a few hours regardless, but how do the current (FF3) XP Dungeons compare with the Sunday XP dungeons?

At 50ish, if I put a character in one solo, they usually gain a level or so.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2016-11-26 19:49:19  
Enigma dungeon is slightly more EXP/stamina efficient than Sundaily.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2016-11-26 20:03:19  
Also less enemies beating the hell out of you per round.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-11-26 21:56:20  
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Enigma dungeon is slightly more EXP/stamina efficient than Sundaily.

How do you figure? Both are 90 stam, but Sundaily is 176~k and Enigma is 139k. I think you get more eggs from Sundaily as well. But if you're leveling FF3 characters I'd put Enigma at top.
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