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Sure they talk about both, but the level to which things are twisted are far different. And personally im speaking more about things like, late shows. Media that tries to be "hip" try to paint the idea that Hilary is the only hope for a decent pres. I don't see much mention of Hilary completley fabricating a story about sniper fire, or the level at which she has flip flopped on issues/laws

Yes, the media absolutely loves Hillary, which is why you never hear about any scandals involving the Clintons.

You hear about less than half of them.

"Less than half" sounds more than made up.

where do you guys keep coming up with these calculations?

if there's really twice as many clinton scandals as anyone else knows about... how did you find out about them? and what are they?

Seems like nausi doesn't understand the difference between the media and late night comedy shows. Nothing Trump has said so far regarding the actual issues is being misrepresented or "spun". He flip flops on every issue, the most recent one today on nuclear weapons, because he forgets what his stances are.

We need to boost the morale of this thread here:

Why not? It's not like Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky aren't going to get brought in the next few months. The political machine will make sure that young voters who do not know Hilary's past know it. Expect many floggings of dead horses.

“In New York, we have laws against business fraud, we have laws against consumer fraud,” Schneiderman told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “Good Morning America,” when asked which specific laws the Manhattan mogul broke in New York state, which filed a lawsuit against Trump in 2013. “We have a law against running an illegal unlicensed university. This never was a university. The fraud started with the name of the organization, and you can’t just go around saying this is the George Stephanopoulos Law Firm/Hospital/University without actually qualifying and registering, so it was really a fraud from beginning to end.”...

Pressed on his reelection campaign sending out an email touting the case against Trump on Wednesday as well as his name on Hillary Clinton’s New York leadership team, Schneiderman flatly rejected the Trump claim that the charges are politically motivated.

“Not at all. The case was brought in August of 2013 after over a year of investigation and extensive negotiations with Trump. If I had come on your show and said in August 2013 he would be the Republican nominee for president, you probably never would have invited me again,” Schneiderman said. “This is not a political case. It’s a straight-up fraud case.”

“We were bringing cases against different for-profit colleges. This one stuck out like a sore thumb because it really was remarkable. The New York state Department of Education was chasing them around, saying you can’t hold yourself out as a university. They kept saying they would change their name or move out of New York,” Schneiderman said. “This was just a scam.”

Donald Trump on Thursday vowed to reopen Trump University, the beleaguered real estate seminar business that is the target of multiple lawsuits and has become a new favorite attack line for Hillary Clinton.

"After the litigation is disposed of and the case won, I have instructed my execs to open Trump U(?), so much interest in it! I will be pres." Trump tweeted Thursday.

Despite Trump University being the subject of two class-action lawsuits and a $40 million lawsuit from New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, Trump has previously expressed interest in reopening the business, either running it himself or at the charge of his adult children within the Trump Organization.

The latest declaration follows days of negative coverage of Trump's role in the business, exacerbated by reams of unsealed court documents that the presumptive Republican nominee's legal team had sought to keep from public view. U.S. District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who has faced the wrath of Trump on Twitter and on the campaign trail, on Tuesday evening tried to re-seal certain documents that had been "mistakenly" released, but are in the possession of numerous news organizations, including POLITICO....

Admittedly veering off topic with this observation, but have you noticed trend in how our involvement in the Middle East has been depicted lately? 'American Sniper', '13 Hours' and 'Lone Survivor' are a far cry from, say, 'The Hurt Locker'. I'm still wondering why they haven't put out a Pat Tillman movie, but those of us who were old enough to remember know the implications of that might not sit well with some.

All really bad movies, Lone Survivor was at least a mostly accurate depiction. I doubt they make a Tillman movie, nobody wants to see a soldier's story come to an end with a friendly fire death.

Well, if they're taking liberties with Benghazi, do you remember the flurry around Pat Tillman's death?

Actually, Miss Chanti, you're old enough to remember the Vietnam war, what did you think of the media cutting off footage of bodies coming home from the Afghanistan/Iraq war in about 2005/6 (IIRC)? I'm sure most people in their thirties here know that people very few years our junior were completely shielded from the early footage. What do you think of Trump's continuation of involvement of their conflict?

Opening the floor to Omael and Nik too, even though they were younger.

Actually, Miss Chanti, you're old enough to remember the Vietnam war, what did you think of the media cutting off footage of bodies coming home from the Afghanistan/Iraq war in about 2005/6 (IIRC)? I'm sure most people in their thirties here know that people very few years our junior were completely shielded from the early footage. What do you think of Trump's continuation of involvement of their conflict?

Opening the floor to Omael and Nik too, even though they were younger.

I remember it got a lot of coverage because he gave up his NFL career, I felt it was over glamorizing the bravery of 1 guy as opposed to the equally brave soldiers that also died but got no where near the amount of coverage. Then there was an investigation into his death because it turns out he was killed by friendly fire, I don't remember if his unit was in the wrong position or the artillery unit fired on the wrong position.

I didn't like it. We should be reminded of our sacrifices.

But I know why they did it. They had learned the lessons of having a free, uncontrolled media in Viet Nam. An in this aspect as well they were fighting the last war.

I worry about worse things than Trump's mideast views. Like his thin skinned short fingers on the big red button.

One being the easier sell for war hawk propagandists to armchair patriots? Is probably why.