Yeah, well let's not pretend Dave doesn't have his own claim to some pretty significant street cred. Nirvana and Foo, not one but two major groups of the past 20+ years. Not to mention all the great side work he's done.
Personally a fan of Them Crooked Vultures.
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Ramyrez said: » Yeah, well let's not pretend Dave doesn't have his own claim to some pretty significant street cred. Nirvana and Foo, not one but two major groups of the past 20+ years. Not to mention all the great side work he's done. Personally a fan of Them Crooked Vultures. Being a successful musician doesn't say much about a person's character. Dave is a ***. Jassik said: » Ramyrez said: » Yeah, well let's not pretend Dave doesn't have his own claim to some pretty significant street cred. Nirvana and Foo, not one but two major groups of the past 20+ years. Not to mention all the great side work he's done. Personally a fan of Them Crooked Vultures. Being a successful musician doesn't say much about a person's character. Dave is a ***. Oh? News to me. He's always seemed pretty legit to me. Ramyrez said: » Jassik said: » Ramyrez said: » Yeah, well let's not pretend Dave doesn't have his own claim to some pretty significant street cred. Nirvana and Foo, not one but two major groups of the past 20+ years. Not to mention all the great side work he's done. Personally a fan of Them Crooked Vultures. Being a successful musician doesn't say much about a person's character. Dave is a ***. Oh? News to me. He's always seemed pretty legit to me. He talked a bunch of crap about Courtney and Kurt. Have a little respect for the dead and don't be the guy who badmouths colleagues. That is the epitome of classless. Jassik said: » He talked a bunch of crap about Courtney and Kurt. Have a little respect for the dead and don't be the guy who badmouths colleagues. That is the epitome of classless. I've seen him talk smack about Courtney, but Courtney isn't dead and she's a mega-***. Ramyrez said: » Jassik said: » He talked a bunch of crap about Courtney and Kurt. Have a little respect for the dead and don't be the guy who badmouths colleagues. That is the epitome of classless. I've seen him talk smack about Courtney, but Courtney isn't dead and she's a mega-***. If he'd limited it to Courtney, I wouldn't care, but he said some things about Kurt being selfish and put some blame on him for their daughter's problems. The dude was mentally ill and strung out, that's not cool even if it's true. I consider myself a sorta Nirvana biographer and Dave was essential for Nirvana being successful. The previous drummer was this guy.
 He was okay wasn't a bad drummer. But Dave is a hell of a drummer !
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I'm...sorry, I seem to have stumbled into the girl's locker room by mistake. I'll just see myself out.
Bismarck.Ihina said: » I'm...sorry, I seem to have stumbled into the girl's locker room by mistake. I'll just see myself out. Pfft, where were the girls who talked about Nirvana when I was in school? I had a girlfriend that was a Pink Floyd fan, but that's about it.
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It's fine this is a unisex locker room.
The running mate has been vaguely hinted at today.
Bismarck.Ihina said: » I'm...sorry, I seem to have stumbled into the girl's locker room by mistake. I'll just see myself out. My rebuttal:  Jassik said: » I wouldn't care, but he said some things about Kurt being selfish and put some blame on him for their daughter's problems. The dude was mentally ill and strung out, that's not cool even if it's true. Sometimes you're a bit too candid. Even about friends. It's shitty if he said that publicly though, and I'm not going to defend it beyond saying that the pressure to share things about Nirvana has to be pretty intense, especially as time goes by and there's nothing "new" to tell, so you open up more and more about things you probably shouldn't. But that said...maybe that's something you just keep to yourself even if people are pushing. I dunno. I'm not in his shoes to say that though. Let's be honest Courtney was Courtney before she met Kurt...they both were heavy drug users. Kurt was getting ready to divorce her also according to most accounts. She didn't exactly help Kurt...
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fonewear said: » He was okay wasn't a bad drummer. But Dave is a hell of a drummer ! I'm not an "expert" by any means. I wasn't a huge fan when they were an ongoing thing, but I listened and had friends who were huge fans, and being a drummer myself I covered a lot of their stuff at the time. I don't know what the dude is like as a human being, but as a musician and personality in the music world, I really like the man. His head seems like it's in the right place.
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » The running mate has been vaguely hinted at today. fonewear said: » Let's be honest Courtney was Courtney before she met Kurt...they both were heavy drug users. Kurt was getting ready to divorce her also according to most accounts. She didn't exactly help Kurt... I think Jas is basically just saying "Yeah, Kurt had issues and may not have done any favors to some people, but it really does zero good to throw a beloved figure under the bus at this point, even if maybe it's not entirely unfair to do so." Then again, I'll talk smack on John Lennon and the way he ***all over Julian's life and treated women like garbage, including physically abusing them. John is one of the great figures in music history. Period. Full stop. But sometimes great men aren't very good ones. And John could be a real *** at times.
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From most of what I've read Dave and Kurt were very good friends. Courtney was always very controversial from the time the start.
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He should get Bernie to be his running mate just to piss off the Bernie bros !
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Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » Let's be honest Courtney was Courtney before she met Kurt...they both were heavy drug users. Kurt was getting ready to divorce her also according to most accounts. She didn't exactly help Kurt... I think Jas is basically just saying "Yeah, Kurt had issues and may not have done any favors to some people, but it really does zero good to throw a beloved figure under the bus at this point, even if maybe it's not entirely unfair to do so." Then again, I'll talk smack on John Lennon and the way he ***all over Julian's life and treated women like garbage, including physically abusing them. John is one of the great figures in music history. Period. Full stop. But sometimes great men aren't very good ones. And John could be a real *** at times. Yeah, it really sucks when you hear good music but can't help thinking about how much you don't like the person behind it, but there are some additional factors that add to or take away that feeling for me personally. For example, Axl Rose was bad in so many ways but he owned it, so I don't feel weird about enjoying Guns 'N Roses music. On the other hand, I can't hear the song "Imagine" without thinking about what a hypocrite John Lennon was. Similarly, I still don't like Apple products because of that jerk Steve Jobs, whether he was a genius or not.
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fonewear said: » From most of what I've read Dave and Kurt were very good friends. Courtney was always very controversial from the time the start. That's the word on the wire. Courtney was bad news from day one. Call her the Yoko of the 90's. Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » Let's be honest Courtney was Courtney before she met Kurt...they both were heavy drug users. Kurt was getting ready to divorce her also according to most accounts. She didn't exactly help Kurt... I think Jas is basically just saying "Yeah, Kurt had issues and may not have done any favors to some people, but it really does zero good to throw a beloved figure under the bus at this point, even if maybe it's not entirely unfair to do so." Then again, I'll talk smack on John Lennon and the way he ***all over Julian's life and treated women like garbage, including physically abusing them. John is one of the great figures in music history. Period. Full stop. But sometimes great men aren't very good ones. And John could be a real *** at times. Pretty much. It's more the fact that he's in the public eye. I get that he's a musician and not some kind diplomat, but I lose a lot of respect for someone who can't leave well enough alone when they have a soapbox. fonewear said: » You thought Trump supporters are bad look at this ***:  For fun you should Photoshop out the "Bernie" signs for Trump ones, show it to people and let them talk about how much Trump supporters are just a bunch of rednecks, then reveal the true photo.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Similarly, I still don't like Apple products because of that jerk Steve Jobs, whether he was a genius or not. Is not liking them because they suck and are overpriced not enough reason?
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » Let's be honest Courtney was Courtney before she met Kurt...they both were heavy drug users. Kurt was getting ready to divorce her also according to most accounts. She didn't exactly help Kurt... I think Jas is basically just saying "Yeah, Kurt had issues and may not have done any favors to some people, but it really does zero good to throw a beloved figure under the bus at this point, even if maybe it's not entirely unfair to do so." Then again, I'll talk smack on John Lennon and the way he ***all over Julian's life and treated women like garbage, including physically abusing them. John is one of the great figures in music history. Period. Full stop. But sometimes great men aren't very good ones. And John could be a real *** at times. Yeah, it really sucks when you hear good music but can't help thinking about how much you don't like the person behind it, but there are some additional factors that add to or take away that feeling for me personally. For example, Axl Rose was bad in so many ways but he owned it, so I don't feel weird about enjoying Guns 'N Roses music. On the other hand, I can't hear the song "Imagine" without thinking about what a hypocrite John Lennon was. Similarly, I still don't like Apple products because of that jerk Steve Jobs, whether he was a genius or not. Steve jobs was good in the business world but he was a lousy father in my book. He denied being a father etc. A real jerk ***.
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Apple used to make good products back in the day. Now they basically make smart phones and that is it.
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