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I am not for more gun control simply because we have enough laws now and it is hard enough to get guns. Should lower income families not have guns? I ask this because to even apply for a pistol permit in NY its almost $250, that's just to apply you get denied you still pay. On top of that it's not like guns are cheap to begin with. A nice little glock 43 like I recently bought is $550. A Sig will run you almost $1000. This is mainly due to regulations and all these added fees. I have a shotgun that I use for deer hunting that cost me over $1400.

The right to 18th century firearms and technology.

So muskets, cannons, barques, carracks.

>_>

I can't speak for other states as I am not versed in their laws only NY. Besides all the fees you are required to take a firearms safety class for pistols. For hunting in NY you have to take a hunter safety class which is like 24 hours or such. My son did one that did hunting with gun, bow and trapping. He is 14 going on 15 in a month and he has shot more than most adults. He has his own 20gauge shotgun and a 22 rifle for hunting. He has also shot about 200 rounds through my pistols as did my ex wife.

If trained right I agree gun ownership should be for everyone.

The right to 18th century firearms and technology.

So muskets, cannons, barques, carracks.

>_>

If it is a gun issue why has this only become a problem in say the last 30 years? I am 41 and you never heard of this happening back in the day....

.... I live in NY, if you think you can just walk into any gun shop and buy a gun your mistaken. When I bought my last pistol I still had to have a background check even though I have my pistol permit, do not even get me started on the hops you have to jump through to get a permit. Takes upwards of 6 months, full fbi background check, mental health background check, fingerprints, its not easy.

That's NY. Here in WA I have to go through a background check is all. That is not needed in most states. And in many states you can use an Idaho CC permit. There are classes in getting one in every last state that will recognize the Idaho permit.

I am not for more gun control simply because we have enough laws now and it is hard enough to get guns. Should lower income families not have guns? I ask this because to even apply for a pistol permit in NY its almost $250, that's just to apply you get denied you still pay. On top of that it's not like guns are cheap to begin with. A nice little glock 43 like I recently bought is $550. A Sig will run you almost $1000. This is mainly due to regulations and all these added fees. I have a shotgun that I use for deer hunting that cost me over $1400.

What percentage of your monthly pay would that be?

At the time of the founding of this country a good flintlock would be cheap to landed gentry and 3 - 6 months pay for a working stiff.

What percentage of your monthly pay would that be?

At the time of the founding of this country a good flintlock would be cheap to landed gentry and 3 - 6 months pay for a working stiff.

They were also made one at a time by craftsmen. It would be a little more honest to compare with prices after the steam engine when mass production made the cost per unit more reasonable.

The founding fathers also weren't expecting people to have several guns or for people to collect them recreationally. The context of the time when the document was written doesn't seem to be considered when modern interpretations are used.

Washington (CNN)As Republican angst about Donald Trump grows closer to panic, some longtime GOP strategists and donors are discussing creative ways to cut their presumptive nominee loose at their convention in July.

There's renewed talk in some Republican circles to find a way out as Trump lags big time behind Hillary Clinton in several new polls, and he has the highest unfavorable rating of any candidate for a major party on record -- 70% in this week's Washington Post-ABC poll.

One source with knowledge of these discussions underscores to CNN, however, that all of the ideas being bandied about now are highly unlikely to see fruition -- mostly because this kind of move to get rid of a nominee elected by GOP primary and caucus voters would be unprecedented. And a second source says he has spoken directly to senior GOP operatives with extensive convention experience who are actively exploring how to dump Trump.

Still, here are some options they are exploring:

Free delegates at the convention
Right now the ideas are focused in and around freeing convention delegates who are bound to Trump.

One way to do that would be to survey the delegates and find out who is willing the go with someone else in a second ballot....

A huge hurdle for "Never Trump" Republicans is that the alternatives -- Ted Cruz and others -- are still considered by many to be "untenable."

Using the Rules Committee
Another idea is to use the RNC convention rules committee to try to pass a rule freeing all the delegates to vote for whomever they want on the front end.

Conservatives Eric O'Keefe and David Rifkin, Jr., wrote an op ed in the Wall Street Journal this week advocating the idea, and pushing back on those who say it's not possible because state party rules, not national party rules, dictate whether delegates are bound.

"These statutes can't be legally enforced. When Republican delegates arrive in Cleveland to select their party's nominee, they should recognize that they are bound only by their consciences," wrote O'Keefe and Rifkin.

'Conscience clause'
Another idea is to dust off an addition to the rules at the 1976 convention, called a "conscience clause," which would allow delegates bound to a candidate to be unbound if they feel the candidate did or said things they disagree with between their state's primary or caucus and the convention.

... most of these ideas would be incredibly hard to execute -- never mind that they understand it would feed into the very real anger at the "establishment" among GOP voters that fueled Trump's victories in the first place.

It would likely prove Trump's point: party systems are rigged and can't be trusted.

Romney redux?
The problem for Republicans who are critical of Trump is they lack a viable alternative. One source stressed that Mitt Romney and those close to him have calculated that it's not feasible for him to jump into the race. And while some on the Hill are aware of such discussions to dump Trump, several GOP sources said that Republican leaders are staying away from any such effort to remove him. One top Republican said bluntly: "We are stuck with him." ...

The stop Trump movement is gaining members and traction. They do not seem to be gaining ideas or methodology.

How the GOP could cut ties with Donald Trump

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So, what are we going to call Bill? First Gentlemen? First Dude? Hey-didn't-you-used-to-work-here?

I doubt this and not just because it came from Clinton News Network

Barring some major bombshell, they're pretty much doomed whether they go with Trump or go with an alternate.

So, what are we going to call Bill? First Gentlemen? First Dude? Hey-didn't-you-used-to-work-here?

Well, having a woman president will be great so that we can have another first for the sake of having a first. I'm just thrilled that our first black president got a Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing, proceeded to drone strike the crap out of people, and ended up with "meh" approval. It'll be even better when our first woman president will be known for being dishonest, fighting for women and gay rights after opposing gay rights and taking a ton of money from countries that degrade women and kill gays, and just generally being less likable than her husband... all before she ever got into office.

I'm all for breaking the old white dude for president stereotype, but sheesh.... At least find someone worth remembering fondly.

I'm all for breaking the old white dude for president stereotype, but sheesh.... At least find someone worth remembering fondly.

I've more or less accepted Hillary Clinton as the next President. It was going to be difficult to prevent no matter what, but this unbelievable negative campaign against him and collusion with the media and celebrity, immediately beginning every sentence about Donald Trump with the word "racist" or "hate", this will be nearly impossible to overcome. Stephen Colbert literally using a swastika image to describe Donald Trump on what is supposed to be a comedy show; completely exploiting a horrible tragedy for Democrat political gain. This propaganda sinks in.