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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-18 08:13:18  
What did he say that was racist?

Does anyone even know what that word means any more?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-18 08:14:04  
Damn you new page... Damn you to hell
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 08:27:25  
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What did he say that was racist?

Does anyone even know what that word means any more?

Everything is racist if you are white !
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-06-18 08:27:29  
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Warren is her vp from what I gathered.
No VP pick yet, but regarding Warren, a major reason not to pick her would be that she's arguably more useful as a Senator (one of the best in the nation. If she becomes VP, her seat would be open and our Republican governor would get to appoint whoever he wants (though MA Republicans tend to be more moderate). Warren is also about as critical on Wall Street as Bernie is, which some have argued would have a number of major funding sources switch to Trump.
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By Jassik 2016-06-18 09:34:21  
If Hillary could convince sanders to be her VP, trump would need to resurrect Regan to have a snowballs chance in hell of beating her.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-18 09:39:26  
I think(I might be wrong though) that she doesn't want Sanders because then she would have to include at least part of his agenda into her plans to have his cooperation.
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By Jassik 2016-06-18 09:42:56  
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Well, having a woman president will be great so that we can have another first for the sake of having a first.

I don't think you can call any first that comes so embarrassingly late a victory. If we'd elected a black or female president in the 70's or 80's like other western countries did, you could say it was a victory for equality. It's like finally potty training a 12 year old then making a big deal about it to everyone.

We should have a female president if she is the best candidate. What's even more pathetic is that she probably is.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-06-18 09:42:59  
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I've more or less accepted Hillary Clinton as the next President. It was going to be difficult to prevent no matter what, but this unbelievable negative campaign against him and collusion with the media and celebrity, immediately beginning every sentence about Donald Trump with the word "racist" or "hate", this will be nearly impossible to overcome. Stephen Colbert literally using a swastika image to describe Donald Trump on what is supposed to be a comedy show; completely exploiting a horrible tragedy for Democrat political gain. This propaganda sinks in.
So do you just ignore Trump whenever he opens his mouth and says racist or hateful stuff? It's not really propaganda to repeat quotes, in context, and make a statement based on them.

Just declare that he is racist and has said racist things and if enough people say it over and over it sinks in and almost seems true. Exactly. Perfect timing on your post.

He is not racist. He has no history of racism in his career which would be unbelievably easy to find right not if it were true. Nothing he has said in the campaign at all has been racist.

Democrats are absolutely tearing this country apart again with a horribly negative campaign for a stupid election. If Hillary wins she will have no consensus to govern. She will have gridlock and half of the Country will despise her for what they did in the election. You cannot call half of the Country racist and expect them to listen to you when you win.

And I for one cannot tell you how freaking sick I am of Democrat politicians overcompensating for being anti-gay since their party's inception until the year 2012 when they decided the time was right to use gay Americans politically.

"The lady doth protest too much"
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By Jassik 2016-06-18 09:44:26  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I think(I might be wrong though) that she doesn't want Sanders because then she would have to include at least part of his agenda into her plans to have his cooperation.

I think she's too proud to admit she might need him, but I also doubt he would ever accept if she asked.
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-18 09:50:09  
Always back to the racist card, don't you have anything else?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-18 09:53:28  
Incompetent, doesn't have real plans for anything, ultimate display of demagogy.

It's not like these things haven't been said before.
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By Jassik 2016-06-18 09:53:41  
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Always back to the racist card, don't you have anything else?

Why climb the tree when he hangs all his fruit so low?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-06-18 09:58:07  
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Incompetent, doesn't have real plans for anything, ultimate display of demagogy.

It's not like these things haven't been said before.

You are talking about Elizabeth Warren right? Also add to that did nothing in her career besides pretending to be non-white in order to receive a well paying job reserved for a minority professor. Also she did pretty well flipping foreclosed houses during the housing crisis.
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 10:02:22  
You guys are missing the point. A woman wants to be President. We should change the Constitution so that isn't allowed !
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 10:03:24  
Hillary is qualified for something though...she could run the Huff Post.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-06-18 10:03:47  
Warren exposed herself as a fraud and a sellout anyway. She has lost a ton of credibility. If she believed anything that she says then the only choice was to back Bernie Sanders several months ago, like in January. Instead she waits for the obvious favorite and backs Wall Street's hand-picked candidate Hillary Clinton. Bernie would be the nominee if she got on board. Phony.
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 10:07:27  
Take the Hillary talk to the Random Politics and Hillary thread !


This is about our personal hero and overlord Trump !
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-18 10:10:39  
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You are talking about Elizabeth Warren
No. I know little about this woman and I am not particularly interested in discussing her in this moment. I only mentioned her name because an article I read said Clinton picked her as vp but it seems it was wrong.

That was about Trump and him alone. Nobody said Cruz didn't have plans(as crazy as they were), or Rubio, or Kasich, or whoever. It's a Trump thing that everyone keeps pointing out but it keeps being ignored and deflected to Clinton being evil.
Ayyy all aboard the Hillary hate train, nobody likes her, but at least she bothered putting together a couple of coherent ideas like all other candidates did. Except Trump.
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 10:11:01  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dozens-of-gop-delegates-launch-new-push-to-halt-donald-trump/2016/06/17/e8dcf74e-3491-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html


Again the Republicans want to lose it seems.
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 10:12:16  
If you love Elizabeth Warren so much make a Elizabeth Warren thread I dare ya !
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-06-18 10:12:56  
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Take the Hillary talk to the Random Politics and Hillary thread !


This is about our personal hero and overlord Trump !

I got banned from that thread for showing a pro-second amendment picture of rioters attacking police officers and lighting cars on fire. Banned by the same mod that nuked the Hillary thread. When you criticize Hillary here, tread lightly.
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 10:14:29  
When Trump becomes President he won't allow FFXIAH to have any Hillary threads !
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-18 11:04:03  
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fonewear said: »
Take the Hillary talk to the Random Politics and Hillary thread !


This is about our personal hero and overlord Trump !

I got banned from that thread for showing a pro-second amendment picture of rioters attacking police officers and lighting cars on fire. Banned by the same mod that nuked the Hillary thread. When you criticize Hillary here, tread lightly.

Me too, seems if your liberal you can say anything you want but when you fire back they all have the report button on hot key.
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By Jassik 2016-06-18 11:19:56  
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fonewear said: »
Take the Hillary talk to the Random Politics and Hillary thread !


This is about our personal hero and overlord Trump !

I got banned from that thread for showing a pro-second amendment picture of rioters attacking police officers and lighting cars on fire. Banned by the same mod that nuked the Hillary thread. When you criticize Hillary here, tread lightly.

Me too, seems if your liberal you can say anything you want but when you fire back they all have the report button on hot key.

Fire back with coherent counterpoints.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-06-18 11:34:01  
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Fire back with coherent counterpoints.

But its so much easier to blame other people!
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-18 11:49:03  
freedom of speech and good debate until it is something you don't agree with then jam the report key
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-06-18 12:04:19  
Vic just had a whole page of posts deleted by a mod in this thread but he's still not banned from it.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-18 12:46:39  
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What did he say that was racist?

Does anyone even know what that word means any more?

Still waiting...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-18 12:51:26  
RNC delegates launch 'Anybody but Trump' drive

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Washington (CNN)A coalition of Republican delegates is mounting a last-ditch effort to block Donald Trump from obtaining the GOP nomination by pushing for a "conscience clause" that would allow delegates to vote against the presumptive nominee.

Kendal Unruh, a Colorado delegate, organized a call with dozens of other delegates Thursday night to discuss ways to block Trump at the convention. The group, Unruh says, marks the coalescing of disparate "pockets of resistance" -- including backers of Sen. Ted Cruz, Sen. Marco Rubio and Ohio Gov. John Kasich -- which had been opposing Trump with little success.

"This is a coalition of Kasich, Cruz and Rubio (supporters) and we are all agreeing on one goal, which is: Anybody but Trump," Unruh said Friday.

Any stop-Trump effort would be nearly impossible to pull off at this point in the election cycle. But moves such as Thursday's call demonstrate that Trump's opponents inside the GOP are trying to organize more effectively. And, perhaps more importantly, it reflects the mounting anxiety inside the party about Trump's candidacy amid polls that show him badly trailing presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. His comments in the aftermath of the Orlando attacks -- and his earlier criticism of a judge because of his Mexican heritage -- have alarmed many in the GOP.
Trump dismissed the effort Friday, suggesting it would be "illegal" if the delegates tried to thwart the binding of the delegates.

"I have tremendous support and get the biggest crowds by far and any such move would not only be totally illegal but also a rebuke of the millions of people who feel so strongly about what I am saying," Trump said in a statement. "People that I defeated soundly in the primaries will do anything to get a second shot -- but there is no mechanism for it to happen."

The Republican National Committee, which has largely aligned with the Trump campaign, also dismissed the effort Friday.

"The extent of this effort is a bunch of random people tweeting about it, full stop," said Sean Spicer, RNC chief strategist.
Later Friday, Spicer tweeted a short statement: "Donald Trump bested 16 highly qualified candidates and received more primary votes than any candidate in Republican Party history. All of the discussion about the RNC Rules Committee acting to undermine the presumptive nominee is silly. There is no organized effort, strategy or leader of this so-called movement. It is nothing more than a media creation and a series of tweets."

Unruh, a member of the Republican convention Rules Committee, said she is lobbying others to sign on to her proposal. She would need 56 other supporters from the 112-member panel, which will determine precisely how Republicans select their nominee in Cleveland.

The group, Unruh said, has dubbed itself "Free the Delegates 2016" -- a nod to another rules committee member, Curly Haugland, who has been arguing that delegates should not be forced to vote for Trump.

The renewed push to block Trump from securing the nomination comes after two incredibly choppy weeks for the presumptive nominee, following his comments on federal Judge Gonzalo Curiel and his promise to pursue a ban on Muslims entering the country in response to the Orlando terror attack.

Steve Lonegan, a New Jersey Ted Cruz backer and former U.S. Senate candidate who was on the organizing call Thursday night, said that Republicans who do not believe Trump represents what the party stands for have a "moral obligation" to stop him in Cleveland next month.

"I will tell you, about every two hours people contact me about how to join this effort," said Lonegan said. "This has never been done before, so there's no textbook on how to do it. So we're building an organic effort, state by state, to convince members of the Rules Committee to sign onto a rule that unbinds the delegates to vote their moral conscience."

Efforts to oust Trump in Cleveland appeared to ebb after Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol floated David French as his vaunted third-party option. But the movement to ouster Trump gained new steam after the fallout from the past two weeks.

A group of people -- including Eric O'Keefe, a former top fundraiser for Cruz -- recently formed a group they're calling "Delegates Unbound," an effort to convince delegates that they have the authority and the ability to vote for whomever they want. A source working with the group told CNN that they are going to try to not only directly communicate with the delegates but also try to raise money to buy TV ads.

Unruh has moved out in front publicly on the issue, but top-level donors and operatives have been re-examining their options for removing Trump behind the scenes as well.

They come after efforts by top Republican donors and party leaders to tamp down Trump's language appear to have failed. Unruh mocked those very efforts to rein in Trump, saying they would end up helping her cause.

"This will be an absolute success once that tranquilizer they sedated Trump with wears off," Unruh said.

Trump opponents have been getting some high-profile cover as well. House Speaker Paul Ryan said Republicans who don't want to support Trump by saying no one should betray their conscience.

"The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that's contrary to their conscience," Ryan told NBC's Chuck Todd in an interview on "Meet the Press" that will air Sunday. "Of course I wouldn't do that."

As confusion continued to swirl about the pending nomination of Trump, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus announced Friday the selection of four party loyalists who will fill vital posts in the convention in Cleveland.

Priebus tapped RNC vice chairwoman Enid Mickelsen and former George W. Bush political director Ron Kaufman to co-chair the convention Rules Committee. And he also tapped former RNC Chairman Haley Barbour -- a trusted power player among establishment Republicans -- to lead the convention's Committee on Permanent Organization with Wisconsin RNC Committeewoman Mary Buestrin.
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By fonewear 2016-06-18 13:02:52  
Anybody but Trump: translation fonewear !
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