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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-29 09:35:43  
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Sylph.Mozhat said: »
The next President will have the power to create a Supreme Court skewed 7-2 toward their ideology. Think about that ... 7-2. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it will guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. If Hillary Clinton wins, and gets to make those appointments, you likely will never see another conservative victory at the Supreme Court level, for the rest of your life

That'd be a damn shame.

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She also has said Obama would make a great Supreme Court justice.

Objectively, he would, given that among his other education he's a professor of Constitutional Law.

Yeah, because being a Constitutional Law professor alone makes you qualified to make decisions that could greatly affect the future of the nation. If anything, his abuses of power in the Executive branch shoot down any notion of him being fair with other aspects of the Constitution.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-29 09:38:47  
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-29 09:42:58  
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Yeah, because being a Constitutional Law professor alone makes you qualified to make decisions that could greatly affect the future of the nation. If anything, his abuses of power in the Executive branch shoot down any notion of him being fair with other aspects of the Constitution.

Was merely citing one aspect. And while you are free to feel he's "abused" his power in the executive branch, I think it's a bit more fair to say he's merely flexed the muscle of the office more than most anyone else after being painted into that wall by an obstructionist Congress.

That is to say, I think he's done what anyone with a pair (proverbially speaking) would do in that position, regardless of whether I agree with their politics or not.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-29 09:45:06  
And if you think a SCJ can be any more bias or unconstitutional than what we've already got, I'd almost want to see that anyhow give the hardcore conservative Justices' statements over the past decade or so regarding Religion's role in government...
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-29 09:45:52  
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And if you think a SCJ can be any more bias or unconstitutional than what we've already got, I'd almost want to see that anyhow give the hardcore conservative Justices' statements over the past decade or so regarding Religion's role in government...

*not because of the good/bad it would do, because it would assuredly be terrible. But because holy *** that'd be impressive.
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By Kisagotami 2016-06-29 09:46:29  
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Some people say they won't vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election. Everyone needs to view that sentiment by considering the alternative.

Donald has said all sorts of self-contradictory things so there's no telling what he'll do with the Supreme Court. For all we know he might try to dissolve it.

Justice Scalia's seat is vacant. Ginsberg is 82 years, Kennedy is 79, Breyer is 77, and Thomas is 67. History
shows that the average age of a Supreme Court retirement (or death) occurs after 75 so it is likely 5 justices will be appointed over the next 4-8 years.

The next President will have the power to create a Supreme Court skewed 7-2 toward their ideology. Think about that ... 7-2. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it will guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. If Donald Trump wins, and gets to make those appointments, you likely will never see another rational decision at the Supreme Court level, for the rest of your life!
Fixed that for you.
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Turd Sandwich for president!
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-06-29 11:14:32  
I've voted for the ghost of JFK 3 straight elections lol and in all 3 he lost yet still did more good for this country than bush and obama x2
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-29 11:19:29  
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I've voted for the ghost of JFK 3 straight elections lol and in all 3 he lost yet still did more good for this country than bush and obama x2

That's a lie. The ghost of jfk is too busy doing coke and marilyn to have contributed anything worthwhile.

the stormtroopers of trump should deport the entire kennedy clan for crimes against america
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-06-29 11:44:29  
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I've voted for the ghost of JFK 3 straight elections lol and in all 3 he lost yet still did more good for this country than bush and obama x2

That's a lie. The ghost of jfk is too busy doing coke and marilyn to have contributed anything worthwhile.

the stormtroopers of trump should deport the entire kennedy clan for crimes against america

Literally all of that is better than anything Obama or Bush has or will have done lol
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By Jassik 2016-06-29 12:04:31  
I don't know, bush did some nice paintings of flowers.
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By fonewear 2016-06-29 12:13:13  
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I don't know, bush did some nice paintings of flowers.

Better than this ?

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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-29 22:57:13  
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Trump promised millions to charity. We found less than $10,000 over 7 years.

Washington Post. Paywall.

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In May, under pressure from the news media, Donald Trump made good on a pledge he made four months earlier: He gave $1 million to a nonprofit group helping veterans’ families.

Before that, however, when was the last time that Trump had given any of his own money to a charity?

If Trump stands by his promises, such donations should be occurring all the time. In the 15 years prior to the veterans donation, Trump promised to donate earnings from a wide variety of his moneymaking enterprises: “The Apprentice.” Trump Vodka. Trump University. A book. Another book. If he had honored all those pledges, Trump’s gifts to charity would have topped $8.5 million.

But in the 15 years prior to the veterans’ gift, public records show that Trump donated about $2.8 million through a foundation set up to give his money away — less than a third of the pledged amount — and nothing since 2009. Records show Trump has given nothing to his foundation since 2008.

Trump and his staff are adamant that he has given away millions privately, off the foundation’s books. Trump won’t release his tax returns, which would confirm such gifts, and his staff won’t supply details. “There’s no way for you to know or understand,” Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks told BuzzFeed recently.

Hicks did not respond to repeated questions about Trump’s charity from The Washington Post. Trump earlier this month revoked The Post’s press credentials to cover his events.

In recent weeks, The Post tried to answer the question by digging up records going back to the late 1980s and canvassing a wide swath of nonprofits with some connection to Trump.

That research showed that Trump has a long-standing habit of promising to give to charity. But Trump’s follow-through on those promises was middling — even at the beginning, in his early days as a national celebrity.

In the 1980s, Trump pledged to give away royalties from his first book to fight AIDS and multiple sclerosis. But he gave less to those causes than he did to his older daughter’s ballet school.

In recent years, Trump’s ­follow-through on his promises has been seemingly nonexistent.

The Post contacted 188 charities searching for evidence of personal gifts from Trump in the period between 2008 and this May. The Post sought out charities that had some link to Trump, either because he had given them his foundation’s money, appeared at their charity galas or praised them publicly.

The search turned up just one donation in that period — a 2009 gift of between $5,000 and $9,999 to the Police Athletic League of New York City.

In all, when the $1 million gift to veterans is added to his giving through the Donald J. Trump Foundation, Trump has given at least $3.8 million to charity since 2001. That is a significant sum, although not among billionaires. For example, hedge-fund titan Stanley Druckenmiller, just behind Trump on Forbes’s rankings of net worth, gave $120 million to his foundation in 2013 alone.

What has set Trump apart from other wealthy philanthropists is not how much he gives — it is how often he promises that he is going to give.

From 1988: “To the homeless, to Vietnam veterans, for AIDS, multiple sclerosis,” Trump said about proceeds from his first book, “The Art of the Deal.” “Originally, I figured they’d get a couple of hundred thousand, but because of the success of ‘The Art of the Deal,’ they’ll get four or five million.’’

From 2015: “The profits of my book?” Trump said when a reporter asked about what he would do with the proceeds from his most recent book, “Crippled America.” “I’m giving them away, to a lot of different — including the vets. ’Kay?”

These promises seemed designed to reassure potential customers and voters and to reconcile two sides of Trump’s public persona. On one hand, Trump said he had so much money that he didn’t need more. But on the other hand, he was always selling something.

The explanation was that the money Trump was making wasn’t for him to keep.

“I am acting as an agent for charities,” Trump said in 1989 at the unveiling of Trump: The Game. In news accounts, he estimated the board game alone would bring in $20 million for charity.

Milton Bradley, which made the game, saw the need for such a promise firsthand. After the company released the game — a Monopoly-like board game with Trump branding — it didn’t sell.

“The game was just nailed to the shelf,” said George DiTomassi, who was president of Milton Bradley at the time. One problem, he said, was that customers were not told about Trump’s pledge to give proceeds to charity. “They felt perhaps this was going to be something that a millionaire would make some money on,” DiTomassi said.

The TV commercial for the product was changed. “Mr. Trump’s proceeds from Trump: The Game will be donated to charity,” a new voice-over said at the end.

It still didn’t work. The game tanked.

Still, Trump said he made $880,000 from it, and even more from “The Art of the Deal.” In 1987, the mogul started the Donald J. Trump Foundation to donate his royalties.

But the proceeds didn’t go straight to charity. They went straight into Trump’s bank account.

“Are you asking me whether or not I took the check . . . and endorsed it over to a charity?” Trump said on the witness stand in a 1991 New York state court case, brought by a man who accused him of stealing the idea for Trump: The Game. “Who would ever do that?”

Trump said he did eventually pass money to his foundation, which gave it away to charities. He said he had given away even more than he had earned.

But when Trump ran into financial troubles in the middle of 1990, records show that his giving to the foundation slowed — then stopped. In 1991, he gave no money to the foundation. If book and game royalties came in that year, Trump apparently found another use for them.

When Trump did give his money to charities, it wasn’t always to the well-known causes he mentioned in interviews.

One case in point was the promise, made in the promotion of “The Art of the Deal,” that Trump would give royalties “to the homeless, to Vietnam veterans, for AIDS, multiple sclerosis.”

He did give to those causes — but not very much.

From 1987 to 1991, Trump gave away $1.9 million of his money through the Donald J. Trump Foundation.

He gave $101,000 to veterans, according to a Post analysis of tax records from that time.

He gave $26,000 to the homeless.

He gave $12,450 to AIDS charities.

He gave $4,250 to multiple-sclerosis research.

The amount for those categories was $143,700, or nearly 8 percent of the total.

Much of the rest went to charities tied to Trump’s life: society galas, his high school, his college, a foundation for indigent real estate brokers. The School of American Ballet, where Ivanka Trump studied from 1989 to 1991, got $16,750.

A private school that educated Trump’s son Eric got $40,000 — more than the homeless and AIDS contributions combined.

By the early 2000s, Trump had recovered from his financial troubles, returning to the public eye as a different kind of mogul. More than ever, Trump himself was the product: He was selling his name on products from TV shows to steaks to high-rise condominiums throughout the country.

Again, Trump needed an explanation for why he needed the money.

“You’re getting paid over a million for your show,” radio host Howard Stern said to Trump in 2004, when Trump was first hosting “The Apprentice.”

“Oh, a lot more than that,” Trump said.

“You’re getting paid over $2 1/2 million!” Stern said.

“Yeah, I don’t do it for that,” Trump said. “I’m giving the money to charity.” He named AIDS research and the Police Athletic League. That year, Trump’s foundation appears to have given $1,000 to AIDS research and $106,000 to the Police Athletic League.

As the years passed, Trump’s promises tended to become less and less specific. He often said he was giving to “charity” without specifying a group or a broader cause.

In at least one case, Trump didn’t say anything about donating the proceeds until two years after the transaction occurred.

When Libyan strongman Moammar Gaddafi visited New York in 2009, Trump rented him space for a huge tent at an estate Trump owns north of the city. He said nothing about giving the proceeds to charity.

Two years later, Trump told a television interviewer, “I said when I did it, ‘I’m going to take Gaddafi’s money . . . and I’m going to give the money to charity,’ and that’s exactly what I did.”

BuzzFeed recently estimated Trump’s take from Gaddafi at $150,000. If Trump did donate the money, there is no public trace of it; he donated nothing that year to his own foundation. And this spring, Trump seemed to have forgotten his vow to give the money to charity: “I made a lot of money with Gaddafi, if you remember,” he told CBS.

In 2008, Trump said that he would send proceeds from sales of Trump Super Premium Vodka to the Walter Reed Society, which helps wounded military personnel. John Pierce, one of the group’s board members, recalls receiving “a few hundred dollars.”

In 2011, Trump pledged to forgo his appearance fee for a televised “roast.” The Trump Foundation’s tax filings show a $400,000 donation from Comedy Central instead. In recent years, the Trump Foundation’s coffers have been filled by other donors, not Trump.

One of the clearest cases of Trump not making good on a promise to give to charity is Trump University, the real estate seminar business that has spawned lawsuits in New York and California alleging widespread fraud.

Trump made at least $5 million from Trump University, according to the New York state attorney general. But Trump’s attorneys say that none of it went to charity, because it was used for legal fees.

Trump’s representatives have repeatedly said that there have been many charitable donations from Trump in recent years but that he has purposely kept them under wraps.

“We want to keep them private. We want to keep them quiet,” Allen Weisselberg, the chief financial officer of Trump’s business, told The Post earlier this year. “He doesn’t want other charities to see it. Then it becomes like a feeding frenzy.”

This year, The Post got the same response when it probed a separate claim that Trump had made about his charitable giving. At the launch of his campaign, Trump said that he had given away $102 million in the past five years. That figure turned out to comprise mostly land-use agreements and free rounds of golf given away at Trump’s courses.

Trump’s campaign said that none of the $102 million it had counted was actually a cash gift from Trump’s pocket. Such gifts existed, Trump’s staff said. But they were private.
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By fonewear 2016-06-30 08:14:54  
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Found it with no help from our mod.

Trump promised millions to charity. We found less than $10,000 over 7 years.

Washington Post. Paywall.

Quote:
In May, under pressure from the news media, Donald Trump made good on a pledge he made four months earlier: He gave $1 million to a nonprofit group helping veterans’ families.

Before that, however, when was the last time that Trump had given any of his own money to a charity?

If Trump stands by his promises, such donations should be occurring all the time. In the 15 years prior to the veterans donation, Trump promised to donate earnings from a wide variety of his moneymaking enterprises: “The Apprentice.” Trump Vodka. Trump University. A book. Another book. If he had honored all those pledges, Trump’s gifts to charity would have topped $8.5 million.

But in the 15 years prior to the veterans’ gift, public records show that Trump donated about $2.8 million through a foundation set up to give his money away — less than a third of the pledged amount — and nothing since 2009. Records show Trump has given nothing to his foundation since 2008.

Trump and his staff are adamant that he has given away millions privately, off the foundation’s books. Trump won’t release his tax returns, which would confirm such gifts, and his staff won’t supply details. “There’s no way for you to know or understand,” Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks told BuzzFeed recently.

Hicks did not respond to repeated questions about Trump’s charity from The Washington Post. Trump earlier this month revoked The Post’s press credentials to cover his events.

In recent weeks, The Post tried to answer the question by digging up records going back to the late 1980s and canvassing a wide swath of nonprofits with some connection to Trump.

That research showed that Trump has a long-standing habit of promising to give to charity. But Trump’s follow-through on those promises was middling — even at the beginning, in his early days as a national celebrity.

In the 1980s, Trump pledged to give away royalties from his first book to fight AIDS and multiple sclerosis. But he gave less to those causes than he did to his older daughter’s ballet school.

In recent years, Trump’s ­follow-through on his promises has been seemingly nonexistent.

The Post contacted 188 charities searching for evidence of personal gifts from Trump in the period between 2008 and this May. The Post sought out charities that had some link to Trump, either because he had given them his foundation’s money, appeared at their charity galas or praised them publicly.

The search turned up just one donation in that period — a 2009 gift of between $5,000 and $9,999 to the Police Athletic League of New York City.

In all, when the $1 million gift to veterans is added to his giving through the Donald J. Trump Foundation, Trump has given at least $3.8 million to charity since 2001. That is a significant sum, although not among billionaires. For example, hedge-fund titan Stanley Druckenmiller, just behind Trump on Forbes’s rankings of net worth, gave $120 million to his foundation in 2013 alone.

What has set Trump apart from other wealthy philanthropists is not how much he gives — it is how often he promises that he is going to give.

From 1988: “To the homeless, to Vietnam veterans, for AIDS, multiple sclerosis,” Trump said about proceeds from his first book, “The Art of the Deal.” “Originally, I figured they’d get a couple of hundred thousand, but because of the success of ‘The Art of the Deal,’ they’ll get four or five million.’’

From 2015: “The profits of my book?” Trump said when a reporter asked about what he would do with the proceeds from his most recent book, “Crippled America.” “I’m giving them away, to a lot of different — including the vets. ’Kay?”

These promises seemed designed to reassure potential customers and voters and to reconcile two sides of Trump’s public persona. On one hand, Trump said he had so much money that he didn’t need more. But on the other hand, he was always selling something.

The explanation was that the money Trump was making wasn’t for him to keep.

“I am acting as an agent for charities,” Trump said in 1989 at the unveiling of Trump: The Game. In news accounts, he estimated the board game alone would bring in $20 million for charity.

Milton Bradley, which made the game, saw the need for such a promise firsthand. After the company released the game — a Monopoly-like board game with Trump branding — it didn’t sell.

“The game was just nailed to the shelf,” said George DiTomassi, who was president of Milton Bradley at the time. One problem, he said, was that customers were not told about Trump’s pledge to give proceeds to charity. “They felt perhaps this was going to be something that a millionaire would make some money on,” DiTomassi said.

The TV commercial for the product was changed. “Mr. Trump’s proceeds from Trump: The Game will be donated to charity,” a new voice-over said at the end.

It still didn’t work. The game tanked.

Still, Trump said he made $880,000 from it, and even more from “The Art of the Deal.” In 1987, the mogul started the Donald J. Trump Foundation to donate his royalties.

But the proceeds didn’t go straight to charity. They went straight into Trump’s bank account.

“Are you asking me whether or not I took the check . . . and endorsed it over to a charity?” Trump said on the witness stand in a 1991 New York state court case, brought by a man who accused him of stealing the idea for Trump: The Game. “Who would ever do that?”

Trump said he did eventually pass money to his foundation, which gave it away to charities. He said he had given away even more than he had earned.

But when Trump ran into financial troubles in the middle of 1990, records show that his giving to the foundation slowed — then stopped. In 1991, he gave no money to the foundation. If book and game royalties came in that year, Trump apparently found another use for them.

When Trump did give his money to charities, it wasn’t always to the well-known causes he mentioned in interviews.

One case in point was the promise, made in the promotion of “The Art of the Deal,” that Trump would give royalties “to the homeless, to Vietnam veterans, for AIDS, multiple sclerosis.”

He did give to those causes — but not very much.

From 1987 to 1991, Trump gave away $1.9 million of his money through the Donald J. Trump Foundation.

He gave $101,000 to veterans, according to a Post analysis of tax records from that time.

He gave $26,000 to the homeless.

He gave $12,450 to AIDS charities.

He gave $4,250 to multiple-sclerosis research.

The amount for those categories was $143,700, or nearly 8 percent of the total.

Much of the rest went to charities tied to Trump’s life: society galas, his high school, his college, a foundation for indigent real estate brokers. The School of American Ballet, where Ivanka Trump studied from 1989 to 1991, got $16,750.

A private school that educated Trump’s son Eric got $40,000 — more than the homeless and AIDS contributions combined.

By the early 2000s, Trump had recovered from his financial troubles, returning to the public eye as a different kind of mogul. More than ever, Trump himself was the product: He was selling his name on products from TV shows to steaks to high-rise condominiums throughout the country.

Again, Trump needed an explanation for why he needed the money.

“You’re getting paid over a million for your show,” radio host Howard Stern said to Trump in 2004, when Trump was first hosting “The Apprentice.”

“Oh, a lot more than that,” Trump said.

“You’re getting paid over $2 1/2 million!” Stern said.

“Yeah, I don’t do it for that,” Trump said. “I’m giving the money to charity.” He named AIDS research and the Police Athletic League. That year, Trump’s foundation appears to have given $1,000 to AIDS research and $106,000 to the Police Athletic League.

As the years passed, Trump’s promises tended to become less and less specific. He often said he was giving to “charity” without specifying a group or a broader cause.

In at least one case, Trump didn’t say anything about donating the proceeds until two years after the transaction occurred.

When Libyan strongman Moammar Gaddafi visited New York in 2009, Trump rented him space for a huge tent at an estate Trump owns north of the city. He said nothing about giving the proceeds to charity.

Two years later, Trump told a television interviewer, “I said when I did it, ‘I’m going to take Gaddafi’s money . . . and I’m going to give the money to charity,’ and that’s exactly what I did.”

BuzzFeed recently estimated Trump’s take from Gaddafi at $150,000. If Trump did donate the money, there is no public trace of it; he donated nothing that year to his own foundation. And this spring, Trump seemed to have forgotten his vow to give the money to charity: “I made a lot of money with Gaddafi, if you remember,” he told CBS.

In 2008, Trump said that he would send proceeds from sales of Trump Super Premium Vodka to the Walter Reed Society, which helps wounded military personnel. John Pierce, one of the group’s board members, recalls receiving “a few hundred dollars.”

In 2011, Trump pledged to forgo his appearance fee for a televised “roast.” The Trump Foundation’s tax filings show a $400,000 donation from Comedy Central instead. In recent years, the Trump Foundation’s coffers have been filled by other donors, not Trump.

One of the clearest cases of Trump not making good on a promise to give to charity is Trump University, the real estate seminar business that has spawned lawsuits in New York and California alleging widespread fraud.

Trump made at least $5 million from Trump University, according to the New York state attorney general. But Trump’s attorneys say that none of it went to charity, because it was used for legal fees.

Trump’s representatives have repeatedly said that there have been many charitable donations from Trump in recent years but that he has purposely kept them under wraps.

“We want to keep them private. We want to keep them quiet,” Allen Weisselberg, the chief financial officer of Trump’s business, told The Post earlier this year. “He doesn’t want other charities to see it. Then it becomes like a feeding frenzy.”

This year, The Post got the same response when it probed a separate claim that Trump had made about his charitable giving. At the launch of his campaign, Trump said that he had given away $102 million in the past five years. That figure turned out to comprise mostly land-use agreements and free rounds of golf given away at Trump’s courses.

Trump’s campaign said that none of the $102 million it had counted was actually a cash gift from Trump’s pocket. Such gifts existed, Trump’s staff said. But they were private.

I promise to do a lot of stuff to and I don't deliver ? Should we hold that against Trump for the rest of his life ?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-30 09:34:27  
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I promise to do a lot of stuff to and I don't deliver ? Should we hold that against Trump for the rest of his life ?
Sure!

P. S. Learn to edit, or at least spoiler your quotes.
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By fonewear 2016-06-30 09:38:06  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
fonewear said: »
I promise to do a lot of stuff to and I don't deliver ? Should we hold that against Trump for the rest of his life ?
Sure!

P. S. Learn to edit, or at least spoiler your quotes.

Learn to edit hmm maybe if we had an edit button !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-30 09:38:16  
Boom Trump pulls ahead.
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Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%

It's happening.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-30 09:44:14  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Boom Trump pulls ahead.
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Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%

It's happening.

I'm not saying it's not happening, I'm saying I trust this as much as I trust a poll that says Clinton is winning.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-30 09:55:51  
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Boom Trump pulls ahead.
Quote:
Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%

It's happening.

I'm not saying it's not happening, I'm saying I trust this as much as I trust a poll that says Clinton is winning.
Hey, I'm allowed to have a bit of optimism every now and then.
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By fonewear 2016-06-30 10:00:17  
Without Trump there would be no optimism it would be "hey let's end all the isms" make America feel guilty again.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-30 10:01:57  
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make America feel guilty again.

Nobody wants to be a Catholic nation. Not even the Catholics.
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-30 10:16:43  
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fonewear said: »
make America feel guilty again.

Nobody wants to be a Catholic nation. Not even the Catholics.

I don't think I would mind that one bit haha
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By fonewear 2016-06-30 10:18:21  
I'm tired of being white it isn't easy these days...I could be whiter !
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-30 10:22:20  
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Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
make America feel guilty again.

Nobody wants to be a Catholic nation. Not even the Catholics.

I don't think I would mind that one bit haha

I want you to think very carefully about some of our crazier Catholic traditions before giving us your final answer.
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-30 10:27:09  
Yes but how many of them are actually followed in this modern age. Pope never said we had to use Cilice. Worst case scenario is we have to eat seafood during lent. :)

We are one of the more peaceful and tolerant religions.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-30 10:33:33  
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We are one of the more peaceful and tolerant religions.

Yeah, now.

It's not like we've not had our moments.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-06-30 10:56:26  
I have come to like watching CNN talk about Trump because of Kayleigh McEnenay.
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By fonewear 2016-06-30 10:58:43  
Ramyrez said: »
Odin.Slore said: »
We are one of the more peaceful and tolerant religions.

Yeah, now.

It's not like we've not had our moments.

Living in the past man get with the times it's all Islam all the time !
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By fonewear 2016-06-30 10:59:00  
Anna Ruthven said: »
I have come to like watching CNN talk about Trump because of Kayleigh McEnenay.

Had to Google this for educational reasons. Very nice very nice.
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