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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-03 20:38:56  
Puppetmasters drool. Red Mages rule!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-03 20:46:59  
News articles and their impact on Trump's poll numbers:

"Trump Wants to Bomb the Entire Middle East"
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"Trump Plays Puppetmaster on FFXI"
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-08-03 20:51:07  
I see he is down 10 points in the Fox News poll, he is way off the rails with these attacks on the Khan family and buddying up to Putin.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-08-03 22:56:43  
Anna Ruthven said: »
Drama Torama said: »
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
"Why can't we just nuke this thread"

We can, but that breaks detente, and then Kojo might nuke the TToF thread
Why would I do that?

Kojo sounds a lot like Tojo, we must nuke him into hermaphroditism!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-04 01:33:07  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I see he is down 10 points in the Fox News poll, he is way off the rails with these attacks on the Khan family and buddying up to Putin.

It helps to know what to look for in these polls, because your assumptions seem to be off-base. People attribute these dropping poll numbers to a Trump meltdown, but with the exception of a couple polls his numbers are stable. He's actually up a point from where he was in the last Fox News poll a month ago. Clinton's up 5 from where she was, though.

I'm inclined to believe that the changes in polls have far more to do with Clinton's convention bump than they have to do with Trump's apparent "meltdown". If he can keep his numbers stable enough to weather the temporary Clinton bump, the race is going to be right back on track for him and even more so as Assange throws more and more things out there to derail Clinton.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-08-04 03:38:16  
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Can someone convince me to vote for Hillary without mentioning Trump at all?
Keep in mind if you're not a progressive some of these don't matter to you, but...

Why to:
Pro-choice.
For equalities.
Wants to, at least try, to raise the average standard of living across the board.
Would keep relations with allies tight.
Knows what she's doing and has carefully laid out plans.
Knows how to juggle in politics and would probably easily appease enough here and there to get baby steps done.
Might bring the alien disclosure.

Why not to:
Represents that kind of elite that no one wants to see in power anymore.
If there's some green in her energy plans, it's a pretty damn dark green.
Most typical politician ever, who lies and conceals.
Pro death penalty.
Would likely keep the cold war going with the Russia-NK-China axis.
If Syria ever ends, I'd expect a new one, but this is pure speculation.

As for Trump?
Why to:
It's a middle finger to career politicians(but this is quite the immature reason...)
Might cause the gop to reform(if this isn't already happening) and maybe improve.
Entertainment.

Why not to:
Has no *** clue what to do. Hardly has any actual plans.
Supposed ethnic cleansing.
International relations would go down the drain, save for Russia who'd go the opposite way.
Lies pretty much on everything.
Would probably delegate most responsibilities to others. To who, who knows...if Pence, that opens a new list of nopes.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-04 06:05:13  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I see he is down 10 points in the Fox News poll, he is way off the rails with these attacks on the Khan family and buddying up to Putin.

It helps to know what to look for in these polls, because your assumptions seem to be off-base. People attribute these dropping poll numbers to a Trump meltdown, but with the exception of a couple polls his numbers are stable. He's actually up a point from where he was in the last Fox News poll a month ago. Clinton's up 5 from where she was, though.

I'm inclined to believe that the changes in polls have far more to do with Clinton's convention bump than they have to do with Trump's apparent "meltdown". If he can keep his numbers stable enough to weather the temporary Clinton bump, the race is going to be right back on track for him and even more so as Assange throws more and more things out there to derail Clinton.


Totally agree here and be extremely careful with trusting main stream media polls. If you forgotten about Michigan and a few other states the called them landslide victories for Clinton only to have it back fire in their face voting day and Bernie Sanders crushed her. Hell there was even a few states turned over from crooked Clinton to Sanders because of election fraud.

No one wants 4 more years of Obama's Legacy and no one wants 4 more years of Clinton's.

2016 is the year Trump gets elected president of the United States of America.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2016-08-04 06:22:13  
Siren.Lordgrim said: »

Totally agree here and be extremely careful with trusting main stream media polls. If you forgotten about Michigan and a few other states the called them landslide victories for Clinton only to have it back fire in their face voting day and Bernie Sanders crushed her. Hell there was even a few states turned over from crooked Clinton to Sanders because of election fraud.

Michigan was the only state pollsters got wrong, they got the Republicans right for it, and there were specific reasons why they got it wrong at all.

As for the election fraud thing, please explain how Clinton stole states from Sanders when the party has no control over a state-run election, and while you're at it, explain why Sanders dominated caucuses, which would be much, much easier to steal.

Also, you should probably get therapy.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-08-04 06:50:35  
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
no one wants 4 more years of Clinton's.
Over 40ish% of active voters say otherwise.
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By fonewear 2016-08-04 09:19:59  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I see he is down 10 points in the Fox News poll, he is way off the rails with these attacks on the Khan family and buddying up to Putin.

When was the last time a poll in August meant anything ?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-08-04 09:32:41  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
As for Trump?
Why to:
It's a middle finger to career politicians(but this is quite the immature reason...)
Might cause the gop to reform(if this isn't already happening) and maybe improve.
Entertainment.

immature!? /flicks booger at you
duh and/or hello

we obsessively play video games and avoid life by posting on forums

entertainment should be #1
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By fonewear 2016-08-04 09:35:25  
I do love when people from other countries are experts about America though. I mean random people from other countries are our future !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-08-04 09:41:20  
and there is some kind of "that's my jam / jam jamming my jam" joke in there somewhere...but I can't make it work...

/leaves to get more coffee
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-08-04 10:00:58  
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I do love when people from other countries are experts about America though

Don't mind them, they've just been living in our nuclear shadow for so long they lack Vitamin D.

The sad truth is this vicious cycle. American teachers will never give up their 180 day work year (or stick to teaching things that are worthwhile) which means American Kids will never reach educational maturity ,so they'll grow up to be idiots that refuse to force teachers to teach kids year round so that we can compete intellectually on the world stage....

The people that want america to put on "1984" unitards and join the eurpoean socialist utopia refuse to realize the people that run our government aren't europeans anymore, they're idiots. American idiots! with the firepower and the stupidity necessary to lay waste to large swaths of land for no other reason that it's inhabitants or rulers refused to show proper respect to the amercian eagle.
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By fonewear 2016-08-04 10:06:21  
I've seen the European socialist utopia it turns out it was a Ben and Jerry's with only vanilla ice cream...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-04 10:10:26  
When European countries make fun of the U.S., I usually just look at what's going on over there and immediately disregard anything they said. Come back and play the superiority card when your whole system isn't a complete mess.
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By fonewear 2016-08-04 10:11:40  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
When European countries make fun of the U.S., I usually just look at what's going on over there and immediately disregard anything they said. Come back and play the superiority card when your whole system isn't a complete mess.

If they were superior they would be Americans !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-08-04 10:20:56  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
When European countries make fun of the U.S.,

we in turn mock them by strutting around their most cherished historical sites in plaid bermuda shorts and flip flops asking where the nearest mcdonalds is
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-08-04 10:29:11  
Who is making fun of the US?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-08-04 10:39:42  
Donald Trump has his very own Pokemon now lol (Gumshoos)

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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-08-04 12:05:47  
I like how trump has hedged his campaign... If he wins the people have spoken but if he loses then the election was rigged... Lol...
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-08-04 13:44:13  
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I like how trump has hedged his campaign... If he wins the people have spoken but if he loses then the election was rigged... Lol...

If he loses he wins because he got 100 million dollars in free advertising for the trump brand...

winners always win flavin!!!
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2016-08-04 14:57:35  


Guys.

It's happening.


I:

1) voted for Nader in 2000,
2) have zero regrets about it, and
3) cannot tell you how excited I am that people are going to blame Gary Johnson for "stealing this election".
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By fonewear 2016-08-04 14:58:29  
ScaevolaBahamut said: »


Guys.

It's happening.


I:

1) voted for Nader in 2000,
2) have zero regrets about it, and
3) cannot tell you how excited I am that people are going to blame Gary Johnson for "stealing this election".

What is happening you are watching CNN ?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-04 17:03:29  
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
When European countries make fun of the U.S.,
we in turn mock them by strutting around their most cherished historical sites in plaid bermuda shorts and flip flops asking where the nearest mcdonalds is
But we have lost the top ugly tourist spot to the Japanese.

We MUST close the ugly tourist gap! Send them Trump's hair in Dasy Dukes!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-05 10:14:05  
Former CIA chief: Putin recruited Trump as an 'unwitting agent' of Russia
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For former acting CIA Director Michael Morell, Donald Trump does not have what it takes to be commander in chief.

In a New York Times op-ed published Friday, the 33-year agency veteran notes that he has been heretofore private with his political preferences and is registered as neither a Democrat nor a Republican.

"No longer. On Nov. 8, I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Between now and then, I will do everything I can to ensure that she is elected as our 45th president," wrote Morell.

Morell also suggested that Russian President Vladimir Putin has successfully co-opted Trump's message in complimenting the political neophyte and getting exactly what he wanted in return with more praise even in light of his strongman tendencies toward journalists and dissidents.

"In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation," Morell wrote.

Morell laid out "two strongly held beliefs" that led him to the conclusion that Clinton should be president. The first of those, Morell explained, is that Clinton is "highly qualified" for the job and "will deliver on the most important duty of a president — keeping our nation safe."

"Second, Donald J. Trump is not only unqualified for the job, but he may well pose a threat to our national security," he continued, noting his work with Clinton in her capacity of secretary of state and her resolute advocacy of the raid that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden in 2011.

Trump "has no experience on national security," Morell wrote.

"Even more important, the character traits he has exhibited during the primary season suggest he would be a poor, even dangerous, commander in chief," Morell said, naming Trump's "obvious need for self-aggrandizement, his overreaction to perceived slights, his tendency to make decisions based on intuition, his refusal to change his views based on new information, his routine carelessness with the facts, his unwillingness to listen to others and his lack of respect for the rule of law. The dangers that flow from Mr. Trump’s character are not just risks that would emerge if he became president. It is already damaging our national security."

Trump's evolving proposal to ban Muslim immigrants from the U.S. has also undermined national security, playing "into the hands of the jihadist narrative that our fight against terrorism is a war between religions," he continued.

"My training as an intelligence officer taught me to call it as I see it. This is what I did for the C.I.A. This is what I am doing now," Morell concluded. "Our nation will be much safer with Hillary Clinton as president."

The forceful words from the former top official represent only the latest denouncement of Trump from within the intelligence community. Former CIA Director Michael Hayden, for example, has expressed strong reservations about Trump leading the nation's armed forces.

Clinton's campaign featured Hayden and other conservative voices criticizing Trump's temperament and preparedness in a new 30-second ad out Friday titled "Unfit."

Trump responded to the latest attack on his foreign policy chops with a statement directly blaming both Clinton and President Barack Obama for "destabilizing the Middle East, having let ISIS take firm hold in Iraq, Libya and Syria, not to mention their allowing Americans to be slaughtered at Benghazi."

"Clinton’s home email server that she lied to the American people about was a profound national security risk, and it should come as no surprise that her campaign would push out another Obama-Clinton pawn (who is not independent) to try to change the subject in a week when Clinton’s role in putting Iran on the path to nuclear weapons and this Administration being called out for sending $400 million in cash to the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism is on every front page in the country," Trump said in a statement, in reference to the amount of money paid in cash to Iran earlier this year on the same day four American prisoners were freed. "Hillary Clinton has bad judgment and is unfit to serve as President,' he added.

A slew of Republicans have either said they will not support Trump or outright defected to supporting Clinton, including Hewlett-Packard CEO Meg Whitman, New York Rep. Richard Hanna, former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft, former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson.

Frank Lavin, who served as director of the Office of Political Affairs under Ronald Reagan and ambassador to Singapore under George W. Bush, also endorsed Clinton in a statement provided to POLITICO.

“Having served under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, I’ve seen what it takes to be commander-in-chief, and to make split second decisions under extreme pressure – Donald Trump doesn’t have that," Lavin said, calling Trump “temperamentally unfit to be president of the United States, and just the thought of him having access to nuclear codes is unnerving.

"I simply can’t support someone as erratic as Donald Trump," Lavin continued. “That's why for the first time in my life, I am voting for a Democrat for president, I’m voting for Hillary Clinton because she has what it takes to keep our country safe from threats here at home and abroad."
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By Ramyrez 2016-08-05 10:18:45  
It will all just be spun as "part of the system" and Trump supporters will dig in their heels harder.

He'll win or he'll lose. We'll deal with the *** landslide either way.
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