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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-10-20 09:08:47  
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Rubio is right where he wants to be when Jeb drops out and all of his people and money go to him.

Cruz is right where he wants to be if the outsiders decide to jump ship.
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2015-10-22 16:13:03  
Carson leads in Iowa among likely caucus voters.

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Carson, a neurosurgeon, is now in first place with 28 percent of the vote against Trump's 20 percent among those likely to attend the Iowa Republican caucus. The numbers represent a significant shift from a September Quinnipiac poll that showed Trump leading the field with 27 percent and Carson at 21 percent.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-10-27 13:06:04  
Over 3 polls in Iowa and one nationally show trump's lead being overtaken by Carson.

I can hear the establishment salivating from my desk. They think he's done. I doubt they're right, but prepare yourself for some fireworks at the debate tomorrow night!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-10-27 17:11:41  
Carson is a young earth creationist.

I do not see how a neurosurgeon can believe that.
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2015-10-28 14:59:42  
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Carson is a young earth creationist.

I do not see how a neurosurgeon can believe that.

But do you see how such a stance is appealing to the GOP base? It's red meat to them. We think it's insane but they are loving it.

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Over 3 polls in Iowa and one nationally show trump's lead being overtaken by Carson.

I can hear the establishment salivating from my desk. They think he's done. I doubt they're right, but prepare yourself for some fireworks at the debate tomorrow night!

Yeah, I'll be tuning in with eager anticipation.

I think the establishment is premature, and that the things which see Trump and Carson at 1 and 2, respectively, none of their candidates offer. Jeb Bush is finished. Can Rubio really make GOP primary voters go for him over Trump or Carson or Fiorina, for that matter? I don't see it.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-11-02 19:08:44  
Trump will negotiate directly with networks on debates
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Donald Trump’s campaign plans to negotiate its own debate terms with television networks, effectively bypassing other Republican candidates who had hoped to band together to push for new rules.

“As we have for the previous three debates, the Trump Campaign will continue to negotiate directly with the host network to establish debate criteria that will determine Mr. Trump’s participation,” said a statement from campaign spokesperson Hope Hicks.

She added that “this is no different than the process that occurred prior to the FOX, CNN, and CNBC debates,” referring to the first three events featuring GOP candidates.

The announcement of Trump’s plan came a day after representatives from GOP campaigns met to prepare a list of group demands for upcoming debates in the wake of criticism of last week’s event in Colorado.

Among those new demands: Opening and closing statements of at least 30 second each, an equal number of questions for all candidates, and campaign approvals of any on-screen graphics during television broadcasts.

A letter listing the demands will also ask future media sponsors for specific information about their debate rules, officials said.

Republican Party chairman Reince Priebus, one of many GOP officials who criticized CNBC after a debate last week, said Monday it is fine for the campaigns to seek more influence over the conduct of these events.

“I do agree with them they should be more involved in the formatting,” Priebus said on ABC’s Good Morning America.

At this point, the campaigns have not agreed on other proposals, including one to eliminate preliminary debates with low-rated candidates and allow the entire field to appear on stage together.

In some ways, various campaigns are seeking to wrest power over the debates from the Republican National Committee.

RNC strategist Sean Spicer, speaking on CNN, said the candidates are entitled to tell the party what they want in the debates, “and for us to be able to advocate on their behalf.”

As part of that effort, the Republican National Committee made staff changes designed to ride herd on the debates.

Sean Cairncross, the chief operating officer of the RNC and its former chief counsel, is the party’s new debate negotiator and organizer, according to an email sent to campaigns from RNC Chief of Staff Katie Walsh.

Spicer, whose portfolio had included debates, will maintain his duties as chief strategist, with a supplementary role in the debates.

The candidates themselves also criticized the handling of last week’s debate, but warned the party should not go overboard in seeking changes.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, appearing Monday on MSNBC, said last week’s session got “totally out of hand, ” because “everybody was jumping in, interrupting each other.” He and other candidates also criticized what they called the liberal bias of some of the questions.

Christie also said that engaging in any kind of debate is certainly no tougher than the job of being president.

“Put podiums up there, put whatever three people you want, ask me the questions,” Christie said. “If I can’t handle that, I got no business running against Hillary Clinton and I got no business running to be the president of the United States.”

The next Republican debate is scheduled for Nov. 10 in Milwaukee, sponsored by Fox Business Network and The Wall Street Journal. Another encounter is scheduled for Dec. 15 in Las Vegas, to be sponsored by CNN.

The GOP has also scheduled debates next year in the days before the Iowa caucuses, and the South Carolina and New Hampshire primaries.

Over the years, candidates from both parties have made various complaints about debates. This is the first presidential election year in which the parties have tried to seize control of the debate system.

In recent elections, candidates expressed frustration with the proliferation of debates sponsored by different media organizations.

For this election, the Republicans developed and the Democrats followed suit on a new system in which the parties sanctioned a specific and limited number of debates.

Candidates are told that, if they participate in a non-sanctioned event, they won’t be invited to a sanctioned debate. Any media organization that tries to hold a non-sanctioned debate won’t be considered for a sanctioned event.

Mo Elleithee, former communications director for the Democratic National Committee, said this is the first year the parties have developed a system “that has a shot at working to gain control of the debate system.”

Making it work is up to the candidates.

“The system only works if the candidates buy into it,” said Elleithee, currently the founding executive director of Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics and Public Service. “They are the key.”
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By Sylph.Safiyyah 2015-11-03 14:59:58  
Now that he's lost the lead to Carson I wonder how much success Trump will have in strong-arming the media?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-03 21:49:59  
Probably not much, I saw that the candidates didn't even agree on their "letter" of demands for the debates. The CNBC debate was poorly moderated, but that doesn't mean the candidates get to pick and choose everything they want from now on. If they don't show up its going to hurt them, not the networks, and the other candidates would be sure to take free shots at them. Trump is fading, pouting isn't going to stop it.

At this point we need fewer candidates rather than debate changes.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-04 09:14:57  
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Now that he's lost the lead to Carson I wonder how much success Trump will have in strong-arming the media?

Carson's only leading the pack in two polls.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-12-09 14:36:34  
It’s Only Fair To Ask: Is Donald Trump Working For ISIS?
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Donald Trump is already making us nostalgic for those innocent early days of his campaign, when he mostly came across as a buffoon bent on wrecking the Republican Party. He was so good at it that he had to angrily deny he was a Democratic plant.

Turns out the rumors and jokes were on the right track, but lacking in imagination. With his announcement Monday that if he were King of America, he’d keep all the Muslims out, it looks like he’s playing a far more insidious game. We need to look very closely — very, very closely — at whether Donald Trump is actually an agent of the so-called Islamic State, because there’s no greater propaganda gift an American presidential candidate could give the radical group than announcing the USA will exclude an entire religion from the First Amendment. They’re already celebrating in some bunker in Raqqa: “Hey guys! Get this into a recruiting video right now!” It seems only fair to ask: Is Donald Trump’s propaganda gift to ISIS an inside job?

Sen. Angus King, the independent from Maine and a member of the Senate Intelligence and Armed Services committees, believes Trump’s announcement is perfectly aligned with the ISIS agenda:
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A gift to ISIS. This is literally their strategy. If you read about what they’re trying to do, they are actively trying to drive a wedge between non-Muslims and Muslims around the world, to push Muslims toward them, toward their extreme version of Islam. This is exactly the worst thing that we could do … They’re trying to convey to the Muslim world that this is a war of the West against Islam, the “new Crusades,” that’s the language that they like. And I’ve read some of their strategic writings, and they talk about exactly this kind of thing, where they want us to push our Muslims away and push them toward radicalization.
If Donald Trump’s actions align so closely with the goals of the craziest terrorists out there — the group that’s too extreme for al Qaeda, remember — you have to wonder: Isn’t that a little too convenient for mere coincidence? What better way to turn American Muslims against their own country than a leading presidential candidate formally declaring they aren’t really Americans? That American citizens traveling abroad would be banned from coming home because of their religion?

Sure, even if Trump were elected, he wouldn’t be able to enact such a policy with a wave of his hand, and if Congress got drunk and passed such madness, it would be declared unconstitutional by every court in the country. Again, however, we must ask: is this stunning ignorance of the basics of American law, much less this blithe willingness to discard fundamental American values, simply the result of political rabble-rousing? Or does Donald Trump disregard American law and values because he is not one of us, but a Mosquechurian Candidate planted by extremists who want to divide our great nation and destroy America from within?

Some may argue that radical Muslims would never make use of an infidel whose every word is anathema to them. After his announcement, Trump was heralded by a neo-Nazi website as the “Glorious Leader” for his plan. The Daily Stormer gushed:
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Finally: Someone speaks sense … Get all of these monkeys the hell out of our country — now!

Heil Donald Trump — THE ULTIMATE SAVIOR.
Surely a man adored by neo-Nazis couldn’t be a secret ISIS operative? Ah, but having a bunch of insane Muslim-hating rabble on his side gives Trump plausible deniability; he can claim he’s willing to be politically incorrect to keep America safe. He could even denounce neo-Nazi supporters’ endorsements, “if that would make you feel better,” while noting their speech is protected by the First Amendment, insulating himself from accusations of trampling the Bill of Rights. There’s simply no limit to the cleverness of Trump’s ISIS overlords. We are so far down the rabbit hole we can see through the looking glass, people.

There’s really only one obvious conclusion: Donald Trump has to be an ISIS plant.

Because if he’s not, he must be the logical endpoint of years of Republican nativism and paranoia, the culmination of the Southern Strategy, as explained by Lee Atwater way back in 1981:
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You start out in 1954 by saying, “***, ***, ***.” By 1968 you can’t say “***”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “***, ***.”
If Trump’s not an ISIS operative, then we’d have to acknowledge Trump is the strategy made flesh, the undercurrent brought to the surface, the pure Republican id in a time when jittery Americans are finally comfortable channeling their fear and hatred toward a convenient minority. Since “***, ***, ***” is still toxic, now they’re saying “Muslims need not apply” loud and proud. And by god, they’ll shout their bigotry all over TV, not giving a good goddamn that it confirms everything ISIS says about America.

We simply can’t believe a real American would stoop to anything the Pentagon has said would so stupidly help our worst enemies.
Problem is it isn't just the Donald who is pushing ISIS's propaganda line. Most of the GOP and more then a few Democrats are as well.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-12-11 05:35:00  
Trump: death penalty for cop killers
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Portsmouth, New Hampshire (CNN)Donald Trump announced Thursday that if elected president, he would sign an executive order to mandate the death penalty for convicted cop killers.

Trump announced his latest legally questionable policy proposal after accepting the endorsement of the New England Police Benevolent Association, a police union representing more than 4,000 law enforcement officials -- an endorsement Trump characterized as a "lifetime improvement award."

"One of the first things I do, in terms of executive order if I win, will be to sign a strong, strong statement that will go out to the country -- out to the world -- that anybody killing a policeman, policewoman, a police officer -- anybody killing a police officer, the death penalty. It's going to happen, OK?" Trump said in brief remarks to the several hundred police union members gathered for the endorsement.

Trump did not explain the legality of mandating a death penalty sentence via executive order. Nineteen states, as well as the District of Columbia, have outlawed the punishment. The death penalty is legal at the federal level and prosecutors can seek capital punishment in some murder cases, including ones involving the killings of state or local law enforcement officials, but it's unclear how an executive action could be used to require this.

Trump's campaign did not immediately return a request for comment.

The proposal comes days after Trump called for barring Muslims from entering the U.S., which was roundly criticized by Republicans and Democrats alike as counter to American founding principles of religious tolerance and potentially illegal.

Beyond the shaky legal grounds, Trump's cop killer proclamation may also not sit well with conservatives who have consistently slammed President Barack Obama for using his executive authority too broadly to implement policy proposals he could not pass through Congress.

In his brief remarks Thursday, Trump touted the role of police officers in the face of terrorist threats, pointing to the actions of local police officers last week in the San Bernardino terrorist attack.

He also called for police to have military-style equipment and vehicles.

"We've got to let our police have the finest equipment and the finest training, and if we don't, we're making a tremendous mistake as a country," Trump said.

Trump also remarked on the heat he has taken in recent days since he called for banning Muslims from entering the United States.

"We have people talking, let me tell you that," Trump said, before remarking that he took even more fire from critics when he announced his controversial immigration proposals, which include making Mexico pay for a wall across the U.S.'s southern border and deporting the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.

Outside the event, though, an estimated 200 people gathered to protest Trump's presence.

The protesters' signs shared messages of love and welcoming for Muslims and Syrian refugees -- whose entry to the U.S. Trump also opposes -- with signs that read "Love > Hate" and "Being a Muslim isn't a crime."

The protest was largely organized by a Quaker group, the American Friends Services Committee, and protesters expressed concern that Trump's message was resonating so strongly across the country. Trump's support now stands at 36% of the Republican electorate, according to the latest CNN/ORC poll.

Ellen Fineberg, a Portsmouth resident in her early 60s, compared Trump's rhetoric to the rise of Adolf Hitler in Germany in the 1930s.

"Donald Trump is maligning Muslims and there is a history in our world of hate speech," she said. "As someone who is of a Jewish background, I know that hate speech was the beginning for Hitler and for what happened in World War II. And so we need to stand up now and really speak out against this kind of derogatory statements that Trump is making across the board."
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-12-17 17:00:06  
Interesting opinion piece...

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Donald Trump’s been accused of being a bully and a bigot. But he stands out among Republican presidential hopefuls for his comparative sensitivity to one politically potent minority group: the gay community.

Trump has advocated for banning workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation. He criticized a Kentucky county clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses after the U.S. Supreme Court found, earlier this year, that the Constitution protects the right of same-sex couples to marry. He is also one of only two Republican candidates — along with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie — that the Human Rights Campaign deems to have even a “mixed” record on gay rights

“He is one of the best, if not the best, pro-gay Republican candidates to ever run for the presidency,” said Gregory T. Angelo, president of the Log Cabin Republicans, an advocacy group for LGBT Republicans. Trump would do no harm on same-sex marriage, Angelo said, and has a “stand-out position” on non-discrimination legislation.

That’s not to say the real-estate mogul and former reality TV star trumps Democrats when it comes to issues of importance to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley are all vocal advocates for most of the priorities of the LGBT community. Nor does it mean gay and lesbian Republicans will ignore Trump’s treatment of other minority constituencies — or base their votes on LGBT issues.

But it does mean that Trump has an opening to draw support from gay Republicans in the primary, and that could matter in states where the LGBT community is particularly well organized. It also means he could get financial and political support from the Log Cabin Republicans and their allies in the general election. Whether or not he’s the favored Republican among gay and lesbian voters, Trump could be their ally if he makes it to the White House.

Social issues were absent from Tuesday’s Republican presidential primary debate in Las Vegas, the first GOP confab since the Paris and San Bernardino, California, terrorist attacks. But even without emphasizing his stance on issues important to LGBT voters — and perhaps in part because he doesn’t — Trump appears to be gaining traction with gay Republicans.
The LGBT pick for the GOP nomination: Donald Trump?
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-17 19:18:51  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Trump: death penalty for cop killers

Too bad I can't vote for him twice.. Since I'm not a democrat.


Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Interesting opinion piece...
Hasn't it been nice not having to hear about gay marriage this election cycle. Totally worth it just for that.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-12-17 20:15:41  
Altimaomega said: »
Hasn't it been nice not having to hear about gay marriage this election cycle. Totally worth it just for that.
Oh so yes.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-12-17 20:29:50  
Also nice: the whole equality thing.
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By Jassik 2015-12-17 20:38:53  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Also nice: the whole equality thing.


Even if it's not a topic of debate in the primaries, don't think there aren't enough disgusting people to make a challenge on the scotus decision and a lot of bigots who'd support it. Equality is an ongoing battle.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-12-17 23:19:22  
Donald Trump doesn't want me so I am going to join ISIS.

Damn, we missed out on a quality American right thar.

nice article, to poop on.
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By maldini 2015-12-18 04:01:50  
Pentagon Officers: We Quit if Trump Wins

"This is not the country I joined to defend."

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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-12-18 08:34:24  
@Maldini

That is not journalism. Trust us we talked to dozens of unnamed people and they said this about Trump. Trust us.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-18 12:35:14  
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Pentagon Officers: We Quit if Trump Wins

So?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-12-20 13:58:08  
Will the GOP Mount a Third-Party Challenge to Trump?

Experts—and history—suggest it's an increasingly plausible scenario. And could end in disaster.

Politico

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Donald Trump may have eased some Republican fears Tuesday night when he declared his intention to stay inside the party. But if their angst has been temporarily eased at the prospect of what he would do if he loses, they still face a far more troubling, and increasingly plausible, question.

What happens to the party if he wins?

With Donald Trump as its standard-bearer, the GOP would suddenly be asked to rally around a candidate who has been called by his once and former primary foes “a cancer on conservatism”, “unhinged” “a drunk driver…helping the enemy.” A prominent conservative national security expert, Max Boot, has labeled him flatly “a fascist.” And the rhetoric is even stronger in private conversations I’ve had recently with Republicans of moderate and conservative stripes.

This is not the usual rhetoric of intra-party battles, the kind of thing that gets resolved in handshakes under the convention banners. These are stake-in-the-ground positions, strongly suggesting that a Trump nomination would create a fissure within the party as deep and indivisible as any in American political history, driven both by ideology and by questions of personal character.

Indeed, it would be a fissure so deep that, if the operatives I talked with are right, a Donald Trump running as a Republican could well face a third-party run—from the Republicans themselves.

That threat, in turn, would leave Republican candidates, contributors, and foot soldiers with painful choices. A look at the political landscape, the election rules, and the history of intra-party insurgencies all suggests that it could turn 2016, a year that offered Republicans a reasonable chance to win the White House and with it total control of the national political apparatus, into a disaster.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-20 17:19:28  
Bernie running against Hillary and Trump would be a much more likely scenario. But the media doesn't think that would make a good story.
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By Jassik 2015-12-24 19:51:42  
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@Maldini

That is not journalism. Trust us we talked to dozens of unnamed people and they said this about Trump. Trust us.

A responsible journalist will verify the credibility of their sources, even if they wish to remain anonymous. Some of the biggest scoops in modern history have been from unnamed sources. Printing names doesn't really mean anything if you're dealing with a real journalist. The problem is the plague of commentators and bloggers who have no real journalistic experience and have poisoned the very idea of journalistic integrity.
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By Altimaomega 2015-12-25 00:25:25  
Are you saying that the daily beast has journalistic integrity? It kinda sounds like you are, just making sure.
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By Shiva.Francisco 2015-12-25 09:35:30  
In regards to the talk of the GOP launching a third party run against Donald Trump, or Bernie Sanders launching a third party run against Hilary, I think either would be somewhat of a disaster, as it'd just be one party handing the presidency to the other (Trump vs Sanders vs Hilary; Trump wins by double digits... Trump vs Cruz/Rubio/Bush/Carson/whoever vs Sanders/Clinton; the Dems win by double digits).

The interesting scenario here is if the GOP launched a 3rd party campaign against Trump, and then Bernie Sanders sees an opening and runs as a third party candidate against Hilary. Having four presidential candidates in the general election might be a step in the right direction, even if they're still pretty much in the constraints of two parties.

Biggest problem is that if you have a moderate politician that speaks common sense, the talking heads are so far left or right that no one agrees with the moderate because it doesn't further their agenda.
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Terror group uses Donald Trump soundbite in purported propaganda video
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Terror group al-Shabab, al-Qaeda's Somalia-based affiliate, is using a clip from Donald Trump in a purported Islamist propaganda video -- and it's gaining traction among Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) online channels.

The nearly hour-long video, produced by al-Shabab's media arm al-Kataib, uses a soundbite from the Republican front-runner's speech in December calling for the "total and complete shutdown" of Muslims entering the country.

Preceding the Trump clip, a bite from the now-deceased al-Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Yemen in 2011, warns "Muslims of the West" to be cautious and "learn from the lessons of history."

"There are ominous clouds gathering in your horizon," al-Awlaki says in English. "Yesterday, America was a land of slavery, segregation, lynching, and Ku Klux Klan. And tomorrow it will be a land of religious discrimination and concentration camps. "

The video then cuts to a clip from Trump's South Carolina rally, where the GOP contender's comments are met with loud applause: "And so remember this. So listen. Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the --- is going on."

Trump's expletive is bleeped out.

The video returns to Al-Awlaki, who adds, "The West will eventually turn against its Muslim citizens."

Also posted to the website of SITE Intelligence Group, the 51-minute, 44-second video is a larger call to black youths in the U.S. to convert to Islam. The video also cites other examples of perceived racial injustice, including recent police shootings, including the cases of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri and Walter Scott in South Carolina.

According to SITE, the video -- the second in a series on American jihadi fighters produced by al-Shabab -- was widely distributed via Twitter and the encrypted messaging app Telegram on January 1.

In December, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton called Trump "ISIS' best recruiter" during a primary debate, saying that "they are going to people, showing them videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists."

Trump vehemently refuted the charge the next day, calling it "just another Hillary lie" in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press."
I blame Hillary, she gave them the idea.

I don't think the Donald can collect royalties.
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-02 16:12:31  
Ever want Hillary to win just to watch the world burn? I think I'm getting to that point.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2016-01-02 16:22:51  
Hillary is clearly the chosen one.

How about a (Hillary Clinton for president / Donald Trump for vice president) running against (Bernie Sanders for president / Chris Christie for vice president) ticket? The ultimate showdown!
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-02 16:37:17  
I would rather start a civil war personally.
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