Chanti Handicaps The Republican Field
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Chanti handicaps the Republican field
Just google false rape accusations and let that sink in for a while.
fonewear said: » Just google false rape accusations and let that sink in for a while. Google any rape statistics and let them sink in for a while. Let them get nice and comfortable. Just relax, you'll enjoy them once you accept them. *ugh* Can't continue. Too creeped out. Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » Just google false rape accusations and let that sink in for a while. Google any rape statistics and let them sink in for a while. Let them get nice and comfortable. Just relax, you'll enjoy them once you accept them. *ugh* Can't continue. Too creeped out. I'm quite comfortable with rape...maybe a little too comfortable ! Ramyrez said: » Kathleen Willey alleged that he groped her too. for those of you that were too young to remember Gennifer Flowers was the first one to come out during the campaign to say she had an affair with bill clinton and then, not unlike cosby, they all started piling out of the woodwork...
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My fondness for women came from a young Monica Lewinksy and a blue dress !
The ideal woman lives in denial and will do anything for power. Then later comes out and *** and whines about people mocking her. Clinton used to have coke filled orgies as governor in Arkansas. So there's that.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Clinton used to have coke filled orgies as governor in Arkansas. So there's that. What government official in Arkansas hasn't had coke filled orgies though ?
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » Ramyrez said: » Kathleen Willey alleged that he groped her too. for those of you that were too young to remember Gennifer Flowers was the first one to come out during the campaign to say she had an affair with bill clinton and then, not unlike cosby, they all started piling out of the woodwork... Uhh...there is a VERY significant difference between "affair" and "roofie'd sex". What if the affair involves roofied sex though ?
fonewear said: » What if the affair involves roofied sex though ? I'm pretty sure those things are mutually exclusive, except for any freaky exception where someone enjoys being roofie'd...
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » carter was by far the worst president ever... he had the peanut farmer's midas touch in that everything he touched turned into a steaming pile of cow ***... which makes great manure but unfortunately isn't good for much else. I'm curious what you think clinton did, other than bang monica. And I'm curious to know which president out of Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Jr, and Obama was a better president than Clinton. Surely not Reagan? The only president out of those who has a claim of beating Bill is Obama: -The ACA, flawed but it's the groundwork for true socialized health care in America -Brought Bin Laden to justice -Lowered unemployment from 10% (result of Bush's disastrous presidency) to 5.3% currently -Saved the American auto industry with bailouts -Stymied Iran's efforts to get nuclear weapons with a groundbreaking international treaty -Nominated two Supreme Court justices who were part of the historic decision to allow gay marriage across the US -Essentially ended the war in Afghanistan and drastically lowered the number of troops in Iraq That's just a quick list of Obama's accomplishments. Now that I look at it, he may beat out Clinton: -record economic prosperity- low unemployment and inflation, record home ownership, rising incomes, etc. -helped working Americans with FMLA/EIC -oversaw a budget surplus, something that no Republican has done since Eisenhower IIRC? Clinton also did damage to this country. His sexual escapades dominated the national consciousness for over a year. It was unneeded and ridiculous. Obama has had some scandals, but none on that scale. All I see from Obama is Bush got us into this mess Obama fixed it.
Sounds like this:   Sylph.Safiyyah said: » -Stymied Iran's efforts to get nuclear weapons with a groundbreaking international treaty -Nominated two Supreme Court justices who were part of the historic decision to allow gay marriage across the US -Essentially ended the war in Afghanistan and drastically lowered the number of troops in Iraq
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The Iran deal was just done a little bit ago so that one is still undecided.
Gay marriage was a thing before Obama. And what President doesn't look good ending a war ? Was gay marriage on a federal level a thing before Obama? Which president before Obama supported gay marriage, even on a state level?
Valefor.Sehachan said: » Sylph.Safiyyah said: » -Stymied Iran's efforts to get nuclear weapons with a groundbreaking international treaty -Nominated two Supreme Court justices who were part of the historic decision to allow gay marriage across the US -Essentially ended the war in Afghanistan and drastically lowered the number of troops in Iraq Well, some people here are pretty down on human rights and pretty excited for more war, so you're probably right. I don't think you can judge Obama's "greatness" or legacy while he is still in office.
Excited for more war more like expecting more war.
Sylph.Safiyyah said: » Was gay marriage on a federal level a thing before Obama? Which president before Obama supported gay marriage, even on a state level? Valefor.Sehachan said: » Sylph.Safiyyah said: » -Stymied Iran's efforts to get nuclear weapons with a groundbreaking international treaty -Nominated two Supreme Court justices who were part of the historic decision to allow gay marriage across the US -Essentially ended the war in Afghanistan and drastically lowered the number of troops in Iraq Well, some people here are pretty down on human rights and pretty excited for more war, so you're probably right. States have decided to allow gay marriage before Obama magically made it happen. fonewear said: » Sylph.Safiyyah said: » Was gay marriage on a federal level a thing before Obama? Which president before Obama supported gay marriage, even on a state level? Valefor.Sehachan said: » Sylph.Safiyyah said: » -Stymied Iran's efforts to get nuclear weapons with a groundbreaking international treaty -Nominated two Supreme Court justices who were part of the historic decision to allow gay marriage across the US -Essentially ended the war in Afghanistan and drastically lowered the number of troops in Iraq Well, some people here are pretty down on human rights and pretty excited for more war, so you're probably right. States have decided to allow gay marriage before Obama magically made it happen. *some states Obama's justices voted to make that all states. You don't think that's significant? fonewear said: » I don't think you can judge Obama's "greatness" or legacy while he is still in office. Agreed there. It is significant yes but the public was ready to support it. It was heading towards gay marriage being passed for years.
As for the affordable care act I don't see what is so "affordable" about it. My policy doubled because of it. Maybe in the future it will be good but right now I think public opinion is still against it. Plus I don't like the government telling me I have to buy it. Or be penalized. So, we're discussing the possibility that Clinton was the best of the recent presidents, only to be potentially beaten by Obama? The rose-tinted glasses are strong with this one.
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Where I live now Clinton is definitely not seen with rose-tinted glasses.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Where I live now Clinton is definitely not seen with rose-tinted glasses. Snow covered glasses ?
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » So, we're discussing the possibility that Clinton was the best of the recent presidents, only to be potentially beaten by Obama? The rose-tinted glasses are strong with this one. To be fair, being the best of recent Presidents isn't a very high bar. You need to go a few decades before you get to someone I think both sides would ever mutually respect, JFK or Eisenhower, really. We've had a massive downward spiral since Reaganomics came into play, and Clinton raising the upper bracket oh-so-slightly might be enough to give him the nod, though it's far more that the other presidents have been extremely lacking. Don't worry Hillary is going to set the bar so high no other president will reach it !
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