AGW Theory - Discussion

The raw datasets are usually in csv or other exportable text format. This is because you don't know which environment it will be worked on. The "adjusted" datasets tend to be in the specific application format that it is going to be used in. Whenever I run into that problem I just email some friends of mine and they can usually help me out by getting it converted back into csv or whatever.

Then we have the models themselves which is where things get really scary. Whenever you ask for the code, to double check the results, they refuse to hand it over and respond with "just trust us". When you get a FOIA request for that model, suddenly it and the data associated with it, "were lost in an unrecoverable computer crash". This is what happened to AR4 from the IPCC report and also the big thing behind the climate emails. You had a FOIA request in for the AR4 material and emails from Dr Mann about how to avoid having to fulfill it with someone suggesting it would be great if it was "lost".

Of course to the AGW supports on this forum, those emails never existed.

Why do we need to check their work? They've only been consistently wrong for over 30 years.

It's called integrity. Something that they lack.

How's that data work-up coming guys?

ABC news report from 2008 touted scientific predictions of an underwater NYC by 2015.

Keep towing that line Pleebo. Surely don't ever let decades of false predictions discourage you.

Okay, I know the context behind this, but I still find it somewhat funny.


- The Washington Post... in 1922.

Just wait until ~15 years from now when the Earth enters its cooling period. Fun times to be had by all.

Just wait 15 years till people born in 2012 will be adults.

Crazy!

Never heard of Earth 2100 but
Stupid approach and another example of media sensationalism to add to the pile. I apologize on behalf of the world's utmost authority on climate change science, ABC News.

Now that's the scariest thought yet!

Ben and Jerry are releasing a global warming ice cream...

What better way to deal with the impending doom by eating overpriced hippie ice cream.

LoL!

I'm going ask a woman if she will get fake *** to end global warming

I bet the carbon footprint to make that ice cream is lost on the people buying it.

I'll make sure to drive my SUV to a store on the other side of town just to buy it.

Its ok to make whatever carbon footprint you need to to promote the cause.

Didn't you get the memo, it's "Global Climate Disruption" now. "Climate Change" didn't impart the needed sense of urgency and "Global Warming" only focused on temperatures. Gotta hedge our bets and all.


It's like I've said for awhile, it's a giant *** game with a "heads I win, tails you lose" scorecard.

Temperature raises - Global Warming
Temperature declines - Global Warming
Temperature doesn't move - Global Warming
More people die - Global Warming
More people survive - Global Warming
The Dodgers win the playoffs - Global Warming

A dog could take a piss on the street and there would be someone to claim that "Humans burning fossil fuels caused it".

I wish global warming would destroy the Earth right now so we could eliminate it as a debate !

Since when is selling ice cream doing anything to save the planet though... It's a novel way of marketing. People like to buy ***when the thing they are making a "difference"

What exactly do you plan to do to stop global warming ? Buy ice cream ? Install a solar panel ? I mean when you figure out how to stop it from destroying the Earth I'll be sure to write it down somewhere.

Eh, I'd rather buy ice cream that isn't ripping me off for the sake of a guilt trip, but that's just me.

To be fair, Ben and Jerry's was ripping people off long before making a statement about climate change.

Agreed, but watch yourself Jassik. You don't want your next post (10,000) to be something lame.

Something lame