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By geigei 2017-01-25 09:47:34  
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
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true 4ta>3qa

This depends on how much TA you already have. If you have a lof of TA then QA will overlap with much of that proc chance instead of stacking on top of it.

Yes, this was done on thf, also using hetairoi ring giving ta an edge.
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By Bahamut.Vinedrius 2017-01-25 10:12:34  
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I got my second qa3 heculean piece, still inferior to 4ta alternatives on spreadsheet, not by much but i find it weird, some kind of math bug or is it true 4ta>3qa?

hmm, going by simple math:
0.96+0.04*3=1.08 attack/round
0.97+0.03*9=1.09 attack/round

it looks like; 3qa>4ta
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-01-25 10:52:27  
4 TA = 8 additional rounds per 100

3 QA = 9 additional rounds per 100

4 TA provides almost the same ws frequency in most cases, but for ws with useful tp scaling it's inferior

the differences overall are extremely tiny, it'll come down to other stats and it's relatively easy to get a high acc/att TA+4 piece with fern stones while hoping your QA+3 comes out with other good stats is pretty dismal
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2017-01-25 10:58:16  
Bahamut.Vinedrius said: »
geigei said: »
I got my second qa3 heculean piece, still inferior to 4ta alternatives on spreadsheet, not by much but i find it weird, some kind of math bug or is it true 4ta>3qa?

hmm, going by simple math:
0.96+0.04*3=1.08 attack/round
0.97+0.03*9=1.09 attack/round

it looks like; 3qa>4ta
As noted previously, you can't simply look at this in a vacuum. The net gain in multiattack rate with no other multiattack stats is only about 0.9%; with typical THF gear the actual increase is significantly lower. Factor in white damage bonuses to TA from THF JP and Hetairoi Ring, the likely scenario of the TA augment having better accompanying augments, and considerations for TP overflow (QA is more likely to overflow, which is generally either near-neutral or a net loss with regards to overall DPS), and it's not hard to see how a TA augment could pull ahead.
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By Blazed1979 2017-01-25 11:48:50  
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Blazed1979 said: »

Why do you even aug? didn't you allready beat the game?
Because I can.
Today's augments

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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2017-01-25 13:43:12  
What's the highest acc/att/etc seen thus far on 1hand/2hand/ranged weapons?

edit: going back through my logs, think the highest I've seen is +30 on a 1hand weapon. I haven't tried any other weapons.
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-25 13:46:36  
always amazes me how empty other servers are, i bet there is 50 ppl at oseem at most point of the day anymore, its crazy laggy to try trading. Maybe thats why all the good augs keep happening elsewhere haha! Oseem is tired on our server to give up good ***.

over 1 yr of dark matter events and I havent got 1 worth a damn so far... Its kind of silly at this point.
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By Odin.Taffy 2017-01-25 14:00:30  
On a plus note - I recently geared whm - geared it pretty well, and during this months event I have been able to get Refresh +2 on both the chironic hands and head. So I can't complain. Oh I also got MAB +43 WSD +4 on my herc legs for my Leaden set for cor!
 
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By clearlyamule 2017-01-25 14:58:49  
Chriscoffey said: »
Odin.Taffy said: »
On a plus note - I recently geared whm - geared it pretty well, and during this months event I have been able to get Refresh +2 on both the chironic hands and head. So I can't complain. Oh I also got MAB +43 WSD +4 on my herc legs for my Leaden set for cor!
Is this common for rangers and/or corsairs for everyone getting mab and ws dmg? I have been doing this for mine since day 1 and my best was a 41 mab herculean body with 3 mdt. Im a sad sad panda. I was also wondering for anyone who has traded in dark matter when the event isn't going on if you had better augment results or it is the same rng as now.
I've yet to get a DM augment on my herc that would be better than normal ones for rng in anyway. Like not even a single stat higher than the normal caps other than lol acc/att or random other augments I could care less about... now on Odyssean I get great magical ws pieces for my pld
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By Bamboom 2017-01-25 15:01:34  


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By Shiva.Arislan 2017-01-25 16:25:34  
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Is this common for rangers and/or corsairs for everyone getting mab and ws dmg?

Got this today... the MAB is meh, but the combined AGI and WSD handily beats my previous +37 MAB augment.

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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2017-01-25 18:12:57  
Chriscoffey said: »
Is this common for rangers and/or corsairs for everyone getting mab and ws dmg? I have been doing this for mine since day 1 and my best was a 41 mab herculean body with 3 mdt.

Common? No, there are just some really awesome ones here. I've had bad luck on em myself.

The other important consideration for Leaden/Trueflight/Wildfire is that outside of DM augments, you're also looking at one of AGI or MAB being an off-path and very rare augment. Arislan's feet are pretty awesome since they got higher than normal cap WSD, AND strong AGI, AND MAB/Macc. I'm definitely jealous of those! ;)

Purely from a RNG COR perspective for magical WS, Magic path with Fern stones is probably best bet for non-DM attempts, as it can give you MAB up to 35 and WSD up to 5%... but AGI is off-path. Ranged path can give you AGI (15 max with Taupe, 10 with other stones) and WSD (5% max with Fern, 4% otherwise), but off path for MAB/Macc.
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By Pantafernando 2017-01-26 10:01:30  
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And now for my favorite piece:


I can do it too!

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By Odin.Taffy 2017-01-26 10:09:39  
Chriscoffey said: »
Odin.Taffy said: »
On a plus note - I recently geared whm - geared it pretty well, and during this months event I have been able to get Refresh +2 on both the chironic hands and head. So I can't complain. Oh I also got MAB +43 WSD +4 on my herc legs for my Leaden set for cor!
Is this common for rangers and/or corsairs for everyone getting mab and ws dmg? I have been doing this for mine since day 1 and my best was a 41 mab herculean body with 3 mdt. Im a sad sad panda. I was also wondering for anyone who has traded in dark matter when the event isn't going on if you had better augment results or it is the same rng as now.

I've been rolling herc gear every dark matter event for a year (with the exception of the combined 6 days this month I ran Chironic for whm) and that herc body is the only one I've gotten with MAB and WSD. It's all random so the word common unfortunately has no place :/
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By Lakshmi.Kingofbastok 2017-01-27 22:23:40  


I got these from one of the last campaigns, but I forgot to post them before.
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By Asura.Mewwgoat 2017-01-28 04:25:56  
Is there a gear cap for weapon skill damage?
 
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By hobo 2017-01-28 11:16:19  
I actually got a good aug for once.


Accuracy+20 Attack+20 Mag. Acc+18 "Mag. Atk. Bns."+41 Pet:Acc27 Rng. Acc27


I always fail at adding picutres
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2017-01-29 01:52:20  
Valorous Greaves:

Mag. Atk. Bns +1 lol
Dbl Attack +5
Magic Damage +19
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By Asura.Ravenessa 2017-01-29 03:40:22  
Chriscoffey said: »
Lakshmi.Kingofbastok said: »


I got these from one of the last campaigns, but I forgot to post them before.
You guys are making me envious and sad... very sad.

I second that! :(
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By Calinar 2017-01-29 04:07:26  
Hmm. Nothing special, but 10 stp is new for me.

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By Quetzacoatl 2017-01-29 23:42:44  
Asura.Azagarth said: »
I ended up with a Odys Cuisses...

acc+6 att+6 Macc+20 Mab+20 QUAD ATTCK+3 Petstuff

I am mixed haha, its fun to see that high of quad attack, but with such little acc, idk??? thoughts?
Think I might have gotten you beat...even if marginally. >.>
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By Asura.Azagarth 2017-01-30 00:07:21  
nice ;D ya i have 3QA ody legs/hands both with 6 acc and a 2 QA valo body with 11. I dont use any though because the accs to low sadly...
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By anik 2017-01-30 02:33:57  
if i raise 50% to 51%, at what $ did i increase my % chance? Hint: 1% is incorrect. 2% would be correct.

Opening up a new category of Quadruple attack turns nothing into something.

Now,
If i raise 2% to 3%, at what % did i increase my % chance? Hint: 1% is incorrect. 50% would be correct.

Consider how much triple attack you have and then look at how much quadruple attack you have, then decide.

Hopefully, TA vs QA isn't the only thing you are lookin at, all things being equal, QA beats TA, unless your TA is much lower than your QA, what i mean is, if u had QA at 50% and wanted 51%, while your TA was at 1%.... you would want to get TA to 2% because.... its a 100% increase in TA chance vs a 2% increase in QA chance.

This should also be considered when looking at double attack too!

I could be entirely wrong, as the numbers posted on the augment may have no cap, perhaps TA caps at 255, where TA% caps at 100%. Could be maybe 2 separate calculations for Triple attack/Triple attack %. I doubt it, but Treasure hunter.... am I right?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2017-01-30 02:36:22  
uh

no
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By Quetzacoatl 2017-01-30 03:13:47  
anik said: »
you would want to get TA to 2% because.... its a 100% increase in TA chance vs a 2% increase in QA chance.

This should also be considered when looking at double attack too!



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