Random Politics & Religion #03

I like shooting at edible animals and practice targets, I'm not wasting my ammo to shoot the guy who broke in and stole the transmission out of my neighbor's bath tub.

What are you even talking about?

Did you read the actual rule change? It's to close a loophole. "Overtime-exempt" was meant as a classification for highly-compensated individuals, white collar occupations where people are already making plenty of money. What it's being abused for, is to effectively push a specific class of workers (who are NOT highly paid) below the minimum wage. That's shitty.

If your business can't succeed without paying your employees below minimum wage, you deserve to fail.

Guess I'll drag the initial posts over here before I'm bed-bound.


/yoink


You all have fun.

If someone negotiates that and their employer tries to pull a bait-and-switch, then that person needs to be looking for a new employer. If that person is incapable of finding such, then they need to improve their skill sets, personal networks and reputation so that they can have that choice.

Successful careers don't magically appear, they are carefully built over time. The key ingredients are versatile skill sets that are in demand, personal network connections and then reputation. If someone doesn't have these then employers will abuse them, it's just how the world works.

Why are people working over time on salary in the first place is my point.?.

Mandatory Overtime is normally something that is used on people that get paid by the hour to scare them into coming into work and not losing their jobs. Yes it is required by LAW to pay overtime to workers who are paid by the hour.

Salary is a different beast. It is for people that are actually in demand and have actual skills worth "negotiating" for. At least it "used" to be..

Now people are so dumb they don't know how to actually negotiate and screw themselves when they lack the balls to stand up and say, no that is not in my contract.

So now we have the government coming in (with more rules and regulations btw" saying to business owners "no reason to have a salary position anymore your going to have to pay over time" and now business owners are just going to pay skilled workers less by getting rid of salary positions and paying by the hour and using Mandatory Overtime.

That 40k job that you was just working 60hrs a week for (which had multiple other benefits fyi) just turned into a normal 40hr/wk with 20hrs mandatory overtime and none of those extra benefits...
Oh, and it'll be a 30-35k yearly income now as well!

Again.. Thanks Big Government! Thanks stupid people for not being able to think for yourself!

The existing regulation is being updated from 2004 standards to close what became a loophole that allowed low-paid workers to qualify for the exemption meant for well-paid employees. Where's the issue here?

Does this existing regulation that is being updated now affect well-paid employees?

Did those low-payed workers negotiate their salary?

I doubt McDonald's would negotiate salaries.

So they was already violating the law? So we need more laws to stop them?

Where have I heard this line of reasoning before..

It also updates the standards for what are considered highly-compensated employees, and I can't imagine many of the low-paying white collar positions having negotiable salaries.

By NRA logic, yes. That's correct.

No one has actually brought up an issue with it yet. Maybe soon?

It wasn't really a loophole, just a provision that's been taken out of context. Originally tech and other "high skill" / management jobs did pay quite well compared to factory or low skill work. Those positions often require that individual to be available for overtime in case of emergency / special circumstances. Worked fine until we transformed from an industrial economy into a service / information economy.

Now practically every job fits the old definition for high skilled / management. The call center "remote technician / ect.." working isn't highly skilled but because they are working with high tech equipment, it can be classified as a high skill job. Lots of regular desk jobs are being reclassified in order to dodge overtime pay requirements.

Of course like always, the onus is on the employee to understand they market they are in, know the rules and how to play the system. No amount of legislation will fix this, if anything it's only going to make it more difficult.

But More Regulations have always helped before!

You realize regulations were in place and that still happened right?

The problem is the government doesn't learn and only makes the problem worse.


You say that like regulation would have prevented it.. It obviously didn't. So what exactly was your point?

Hillary will not be running on the woman card anymore. Instead, she would like everyone to focus on her time as First Lady during the most Anti-gay administration in American History.

While she stood with her womanizing, lying, husband.

What could possibly go wrong!

Oh this Primary is getting funnier by the week. Trump at 950 delegates so far, 57% of the total, Cruz far behind and Kasich not even on the rear mirror anymore. They've had to team up to try to block the nomination, not win it but actually force a contested convention so the RNC can bypass the democratic process.

That was the worst possible move they could of made as all it did was fuel the anti-establishment fire even more and give Trump another boost. People are supporting Trump precisely because they are tired of the primaries being rigged and then you got the other two publicly attempting to rig it.

This election is going to be super fun to watch all the die hards on both sides lose their collective ***.

What's funny to me is people who think Trump isn't part of the establishment.

He's merely been on the one greasing palms, not getting greased, for the past 30 years.

lolwhat?

^

Either he's secretly a closet hipster and that was a poor attempt being ironic or meant to say most pro-gay administration in American history.

Lots of points and the spoiler feature is broken.

Pro-gay moments in the Clinton Administration 92-00'

Hate Crimes Sentencing Enhancement Act of 1994

James C. Hormel appointed ambassador to Luxembourg 1997 who was blocked by the Republican Senate then pushed through in 1999.

In June 1999, President Clinton issued the first Gay and Lesbian Pride Month proclamation

Executive Order prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation in the Federal civilian workforce

Executive Order mandating that security clearances no longer be denied based on sexual orientation.

Clinton supports the Supreme Court' s decision in Bragdon v. Abbott

Supreme Court voted to overturn Colorado' s Amendment 2, declaring such anti-gay ballot initiatives unconstitutional violations of the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution.

Fought for the repeal of the Dornan amendment, which required the expulsion of all HIV-positive military service members regardless of their ability to do their jobs

Clinton' s Administration is the first ever to grant asylum for gays and lesbians facing persecution in other countries

Clinton fought for and signed the Kennedy-Kassebaum Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, which bans insurance discrimination against people with pre-existing medical conditions including HIV/AIDS

In January 1999, President Clinton advocated for gay and lesbian issues in his State of the Union remarks, the first president ever to do so.

Clinton appointed openly gay men and lesbians to all levels government, including judicial appointments and top Executive Branch positions requiring Senate confirmation. In fact, President Clinton is the first President to appoint an openly gay or lesbian person to an Administration post. The President has appointed more than 150 openly gay and lesbian appointees, including:

· Virginia Apuzzo, the former Assistant to the President for Management and Administration (the first openly gay or lesbian Assistant to the President); Karen Tramontano, Assistant to the President and Counselor to the Chief of Staff; and Sean Maloney, Assistant to the President and Staff Secretary. They are the highest-ranking openly gay or lesbian people ever to serve in the Federal Government;
· Fred Hochberg, Deputy Administrator of the Small Business Administration, the first openly gay person to be appointed Deputy in an U.S. cabinet-level agency;
· Former Director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office Bruce Lehman, the first openly gay man to be confirmed by the U.S. Senate;
· Former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Roberta Achtenberg, the first open lesbian confirmed by the U.S. Senate, served in this position from 1993 to 1995;
· Gail Shibley, the Director of External Communications for the Federal Highway Administration;
· Vic Basile, the Director of Private Sector Cooperation and International Volunteerism for the Peace Corps;
· Romulo Diaz, Assistant Administrator for Administration and Resources Management at the Environmental Protection Agency;
· John Berry, Assistant Secretary for Policy, Management and Budget for the Department of Interior;
· Robert Raben, nominee for Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs, Department of Justice;
· Harold Creel, Jr., Chairman, Federal Maritime Commission;
· Todd Dickinson, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce and Deputy Commissioner, Patent and Trademark Office;
· Elaine Kaplan, Special Counsel, Office of Special Counsel;
· Jesse White, Jr., Federal Co-Chairman, Appalachian Regional Commission;
· Todd Summers, Deputy Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy; and
· Daniel C. Montoya, Executive Director of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS.

and this isn't everything