Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
Being born a certain way doesn't excuse you from the repercussions of your actions.
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Being gay is all in your head. I dont allow gay thoughts in my mind like I dont watch gay porn. If you do then chances are that you're probly a little more gay than me. Congratulations! The repercussions of allowing such thoughts or fantasies to exist and thrive inside your mind has made you gay. Siren.Akson said: » Shiva.Carrelo said: » Siren.Akson said: » Shiva.Carrelo said: » There are already enough violent shitstains actively looking for reasons to attack and murder gay people. We'd honestly really appreciate it if you'd stop feeding their lunacy by spewing your vacuous *** at every opportunity. Welp, I guess that's about as much of a response as you had left to make. My assumption was more that you carry those lovely ideas of yours with you into the real world after you've logged off, but maybe we're the only ones fortunate enough to hear what you so eloquently have to say. Come to think of it though, we have actually had our share of unstable posters on this site. You really never know. :) Being born gay isn't an "excuse" for homosexuality because homosexuality requires no excuse.  Being born a pedophile isn't an excuse for attacking children because attacking children is inexcusable.  You're comparing apples and oranges.
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Jassik said: » Siren.Lordgrim said: » Josiahkf said: » Siren.Lordgrim said: » Sodomy is not positive. If they are not positive in your personal experience, I'm sorry to hear that my friend. That could be very disheartening. That's your opinion, from a biblical view homosexual behavior is classified as Sodomy man on man woman on woman. And nations were destroyed by accepting it's practice. Name one I'll give you two city states, Sodom and Gomorrah both as liberace as San Francisco and Isreal. Shiva.Carrelo said: » Everyone should take responsiblity for whom and what they are instead of looking to point a finger blaming something or someone else. You dont agree. I dont care. Pointless discussion. Siren.Akson said: » I wasnt comparing gays vs pedophiles whatsoever.... that's what you personally and others twisted my words into. Everyone should take responsiblity for whom and what they are instead of looking to point a finger blaming something or someone else. You dont agree. I dont care. Pointless discussion.
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Siren.Lordgrim said: » Jassik said: » Siren.Lordgrim said: » Josiahkf said: » Siren.Lordgrim said: » Sodomy is not positive. If they are not positive in your personal experience, I'm sorry to hear that my friend. That could be very disheartening. That's your opinion, from a biblical view homosexual behavior is classified as Sodomy man on man woman on woman. And nations were destroyed by accepting it's practice. Name one I'll give you two city states, Sodom and Gomorrah both as liberace as San Francisco and Isreal. Ok, now name a real one.
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This retraction is really all I was looking for.
Siren.Akson said: » Everyone should take responsiblity for whom and what they are instead of looking to point a finger blaming something or someone else. You dont agree. I dont care. Pointless discussion. What is it exactly that gay people should be taking responsibility for?
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Siren.Akson said: » The repercussions of allowing such thoughts or fantasies to exist and thrive inside your mind has made you gay.
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Shiva.Carrelo said: » What is it exactly that gay people should be taking responsibility for? AIDS?
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: » I was half-joking, but the lifestyle really does contribute more to the spread. He asked the question, so I gave an answer. /shrug.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ragnarok.Raenil said: » I was half-joking, but the lifestyle really does contribute more to the spread. He asked the question, so I gave an answer. /shrug. The only life-style that contributes is having sex without proper protection. That isn't exclusive to gay people.
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There's more to it than just not having protection.
Want a scientific explanation? Here you go. Don't shoot the messenger, sometimes facts aren't politically correct.
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So, literally exactly what I said.
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Jassik said: » The United Nations, the Republican and Democrat parties, mainstream media networks, and book publications ,Public education, multiple LGBT organizations who contribute to lobbying government. All the above seriously do not support natural order of Family between a Man and a Woman. Siren.Lordgrim said: » Jassik said: » The United Nations, the Republican and Democrat parties, mainstream media networks, and book publications ,Public education, multiple LGBT organizations who contribute to lobbying government. All the above seriously do not support natural order of Family between a Man and a Woman. The fact that they aren't stoning gays doesn't mean they're glorifying homosexuality. Seriously, dude, you've been back for like 2 days and you're calling a minority group unnatural.
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Raenil said: » Being attracted =/= acting on that attraction He's separating the attraction from the act. A pedophile doesn't necessarily hurt children, they just have the attraction. The point is that you don't choose who you are attracted to, you choose who you screw. As I've said, I'm not so sure about that. Do you think that there would be more or less pedophiles out there if there was no such thing as kiddie porn? Do you think there was less experimentation in all girls schools in the 1950's or the 1850's compared to now? The major difference is the willingness to discuss it with their boyfriends and others now rather than keeping it a secret. Same with all boys schools throughout history. There is a reason there are jokes about the Navy....
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Bahamut.Kara said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Ragnarok.Raenil said: » Being attracted =/= acting on that attraction He's separating the attraction from the act. A pedophile doesn't necessarily hurt children, they just have the attraction. The point is that you don't choose who you are attracted to, you choose who you screw. As I've said, I'm not so sure about that. Do you think that there would be more or less pedophiles out there if there was no such thing as kiddie porn? Do you think there was less experimentation in all girls schools in the 1950's or the 1850's compared to now? The major difference is the willingness to discuss it with their boyfriends and others now rather than keeping it a secret. Same with all boys schools throughout history. There is a reason there are jokes about the Navy....
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Jassik said: » Siren.Lordgrim said: » Jassik said: » The United Nations, the Republican and Democrat parties, mainstream media networks, and book publications ,Public education, multiple LGBT organizations who contribute to lobbying government. All the above seriously do not support natural order of Family between a Man and a Woman. The fact that they aren't stoning gays doesn't mean they're glorifying homosexuality. Seriously, dude, you've been back for like 2 days and you're calling a minority group unnatural. Calm down.and take a few deep breaths Jassik I'm not advocating stoning or killing anyone. I do not follow the label of majority or minority groups. If you want to talk about the population between straight people and homosexuals you will see how small the population is. I still stand by homosexuality as being a Mental Disorder. My reasoning for this is because ALL ethnicities have a small part who are homosexual. How they got this way could be from incest which has been practiced in all regions of the world throughout history and which is why it's ILLEGAL in most civilized nations. Do I hate them ? No Do i want to help them recondition back into society? Absolutely. Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » Siren.Akson said: » Ragnarok.Raenil said: » Being born a certain way doesn't excuse you from the repercussions of your actions. Quote: Especially if they don't understand what's happening? Quote: It's because we're generically wired to be attracted to others, but sometimes the gene is switched and men might be attracted to men and women might be attracted to women. It happens all the time and that's how our DNA works. Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ragnarok.Raenil said: » I was half-joking, but the lifestyle really does contribute more to the spread. He asked the question, so I gave an answer. /shrug. Now we have senior citizens spreading sexually transmitted diseases because they don't understand protection and have access to drugs which allow sexual activities to continue to an advanced age compared to previous generations. Lack or education and understanding seems to be the biggest spread of disease.
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: » The only life-style that contributes is having sex without proper protection. That isn't exclusive to gay people. Bahamut.Ravael said: » There's more to it than just not having protection. Want a scientific explanation? Here you go. Don't shoot the messenger, sometimes facts aren't politically correct. Ragnarok.Raenil said: » So, literally exactly what I said. Quote: Differences in sexual behaviours do not fully explain why the US HIV epidemic affects gay men so much more than straight men and women, claims research in the journal Sexually Transmitted Infections. In 2005, over half of new HIV infections diagnosed in the US were among gay men, and up to one in five gay men living in cities is thought to be HIV positive. Yet two large population surveys showed that most gay men had similar numbers of unprotected sexual partners per year as straight men and women. I said I would withdraw but the AIDS thing is reprehensible.
What I really want to know is, for those who are under the assumption that this somehow is a new phenomena perpetuated by the media and pop culture, how do you explain anyone from Plato and Virgil to Virginia Woolf, TS Elliot and Lord Byron? I swear, some of this cyclical ridiculousness makes me want to evoke that slight twinge of Sylvia Plath. (Not really.)
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