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Random Politics & Religion #06
By Jetackuu 2016-06-14 08:12:26
Going back to guns.
While I think that a ban on guns and repealing the 2nd Amendment is utterly stupid I do think that the issue lays with the availability and cost of mental healthcare. The recurring theme I've noticed with mass shootings is that the shooters were not getting, for whatever reason, mental healthcare attention when they were clearly unstable. In this most recent case the shooter's ex-wife said that he was very disturbed and violent. He was also on the FBI watch list too, so how the *** was he able to walk into a store and legally buy assault rifles and all the ammo he would need? That should have INSTANTLY been a HUGE red flag.
Despite having said that, banning guns is an unrealistic pipe-dream because it will result in a booming black market too meet demand that will put the prohibition to shame. All the US can do now is address the issue that mental healthcare is brick-walled off to many. That won't outright solve the issue but there is no real way to win this battle decisively. Gun control is America's 'Kobayashi Maru'.
Last I checked unless you break the law they cannot violate your rights. This is America afterall.
By Jetackuu 2016-06-14 08:12:54
Does that mean if you watch lesbian porn you really want to be a lesbian?
If so apparently I'm trans and didn't even know it. I believe most of us would be if that was the factor.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-14 08:15:05
As in you guys watch a lot of trans porn?
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-14 08:19:53
As in you guys watch a lot of trans porn? As in they are straight men who watch a lot of lesbian porn
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-14 08:23:53
I don't get it. If watching lesbians make you lesbian.
You are made trans by watching trans.
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By Siren.Akson 2016-06-14 08:25:33
That really just annoys the living ***out of me. Claiming that American Judges are prejudice against blacks and at the same one cannot dare question some other Judge's possible bias against an American whom stands against Mexican illegal immigration. It's not racism claiming Judges are against blacks yet it is racism thinking Mexican Judges might not be the right Judge to reside over an outspoken individual as Trump.
By Jetackuu 2016-06-14 08:30:25
I don't get it. If watching lesbians make you lesbian.
You are made trans by watching trans. Can't be a lesbian if you aren't a woman (inb4 some discriminatory accusation on that one).
It was a joke Seha, you're over thinking it.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 08:32:16
I don't get it. If watching lesbians make you lesbian.
You are made trans by watching trans.
Yes, but for a man to be a lesbian he'd have to first become a woman, ipso facto, trans...nevermind.
The point was I don't like a lot of sausage on my adult entertainment pizza.
Does that mean if you watch lesbian porn you really want to be a lesbian?
If so apparently I'm trans and didn't even know it. I believe most of us would be if that was the factor.
Um...I suppose so, yeah. I dunno. This is actually kind of a weird topic.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 08:36:35
It's not racism claiming Judges are against blacks yet it is racism thinking Mexican Judges might not be the right Judge to reside over an outspoken individual as Trump.
Correct.
It's the "why" you need to focus on. You don't understand it right now, and that's okay. The key is to learn.
Everything can't be reduced to simple yes/no, on/off, right/wrong.
Nuance exists at all levels.
In this instance, I suggest you look into sentencing discrepancies between those that are black or Hispanic and/or poor and those who are middle class+ and white.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-14 08:36:45
The point was I don't like a lot of sausage on my adult entertainment pizza. This reminds me a schooltrip in middle school. It was night and everyone sneaked out of their rooms to gather into the only one where they forgot to block the adult channels. We were curious and so we were all there to witness this.
However it wasn't actual porn, but those soft erotic videos with call numbers. And I remember perfectly one of the guys commenting how he was let down there wasn't actual sex and one replied "why do you want to see penis anyway?" and he was like "I like to watch when it penetrates!"
This sentence will remain forever impressed in my mind.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 08:38:41
The idea of watching porn in a coed situation in middle school, is quite discomforting to me for some reason.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-14 08:40:30
Everything was discomforting about middle school. I have not a single good memory of that period, only traumas. So that wasn't really the biggest of deals lol <_<
By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 08:41:44
Everything was discomforting about middle school. I have not a single good memory of that period, only traumas. So that wasn't really the biggest of deals lol <_<
Fair enough.
I've blocked out a large portion of that shitshow myself.
By Jassik 2016-06-14 08:51:07
That really just annoys the living ***out of me. Claiming that American Judges are prejudice against blacks and at the same one cannot dare question some other Judge's possible bias against an American whom stands against Mexican illegal immigration. It's not racism claiming Judges are against blacks yet it is racism thinking Mexican Judges might not be the right Judge to reside over an outspoken individual as Trump.
It's a demonstrable fact that the US court system unfairly treats black males. On average, they're more likely to get jailtime and get longer sentences. They also are more likely to have public defenders, who are far more likely to push them to plea.
What's racist about Trumps attack on the judge in his civil case is that he's a natural born American and ethnicity plays no role in the case. Trump has misrepresented his heritage as well as his ties to ethnic groups, and this judge actually has a pretty good record.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-14 09:03:29
Hey about that AR-15, turns out it wasn't an AR-15 at all.
Whoops don't let the facts get in he way of the narrative.
By Jetackuu 2016-06-14 09:04:15
"I like to watch when it penetrates!" will remain forever impressed in my mind.
idk
By Jetackuu 2016-06-14 09:04:59
Hey about that AR-15, turns out it wasn't an AR-15 at all.
Whoops don't let the facts get in he way of the narrative. Source?
By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 09:05:23
It would be amazing if every shooting didn't turn into a vitriolic entitled bitchfest on both sides of gun arguments literally before the bodies are even cold.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-06-14 09:05:59
I haven't seen any reports saying that the shooter used an AR-15.
By Jetackuu 2016-06-14 09:07:06
I haven't seen any reports saying that the shooter used an AR-15.
Everyone I see claims it, I didn't really look before he mentioned it, I mean I only spent about 30 seconds looking, but like the top 5 articles claimed it.
By Jetackuu 2016-06-14 09:08:34
It would be amazing if every shooting didn't turn into a vitriolic entitled bitchfest on both sides of gun arguments literally before the bodies are even cold.
A friend posted the presidential candidate tweets on the matter, the libertarian guy was the only one who left politics out of it, was interesting.
By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 09:11:38
It's nitpicky and it's a sign of a different type of potentially poor reporting/journalism -- that is to say, it's leading to fit a narrative -- but the only thing I've seen says he used a rifle of the style of an AR-15, not that specific model.
That is to say, legal high-capacity rifles styled to look like military assault weapons.
The kind that people lose their ***over when really they're not vastly different from other firearms in appreciable ways, but they look scarier.
Which isn't me necessarily coming down on either side here on the discussion about firearms. Just that there's inaccurate reporting/generalization on both sides and in this case there is a bit of a narrative being played.
My bigger issue is let's focus on the issues that actually cause these things to happen, not just focus on the means some use of making them happen.
By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 09:23:20
It was a gun, the go-to implement for killing people in the face of the past two centuries.
Ban them entirely, there will still be problems with violence.
There are bigger problems about the entire situation. But somehow we keep coming back to guns, as if that's the, pardon the pun, magic bullet to fix the situation, either adding more or taking them all away, depending who you ask.
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By Jassik 2016-06-14 09:26:20
Do we even know what the gun actually was? Also, what does that have to do with anything?
News gets it wrong far too often, but would an AK or mini-14 not be capable of killing people just as well?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-14 09:26:54
Whatever you do, don't backread.
If only I had heeded your wisdom....
/pours some Jameson into his coffee
/passes it around
By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 09:29:07
Whatever you do, don't backread.
If only I had heeded your wisdom....
/pours some Jameson into his coffee
/passes it around
Ooooh. Don't mind if I do.
*begins to take a sip, then stops*
WAIT A MINUTE YOU DON'T SHARE WHISKEY. WHAT'S GOING ON!?
By Ramyrez 2016-06-14 09:31:36
Do we even know what the gun actually was? Also, what does that have to do with anything?
News gets it wrong far too often, but would an AK or mini-14 not be capable of killing people just as well?
Focus on the minutiae, dammit. Don't consider the bigger picture of societal, cultural, and religious stigma attached to basic human needs and desires that when paired with the also-maligned/inadequately addressed psychological issues turns someone from a confused, upset person into a homicidal domestic terrorist.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-14 09:36:20
idk...but somewhere around "normal is a tool of the bourgeois... but I want to help them recondition gay people back into society"
I started feeling a lot better about my own mental state and a lot worse for everyone else's...
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