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By Anna Ruthven 2016-06-20 09:33:02  
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-06-20 09:35:03  
Paul Ryan's throat reminds me of that area between wang and sack when you shave your balls.

I cannot unsee.
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 09:50:26  
This thread isn't locked yet ?
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-06-20 09:53:49  
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This thread isn't locked yet ?
Just pretend it is.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-20 10:22:59  
Anna Ruthven said: »
Paul Ryan's throat reminds me of that area between wang and sack when you shave your balls.

I cannot unsee.
Does it have a seam running through it?
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 10:24:56  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Paul Ryan's throat reminds me of that area between wang and sack when you shave your balls.

I cannot unsee.
Does it have a seam running through it?

Maybe if we:

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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-20 10:25:05  
AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?
 
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 10:33:49  
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AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?


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By fonewear 2016-06-20 10:36:58  
I'll tell you why they are scrubbing the ISIS propaganda it doesn't fit the "Guns kill people" narrative !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-20 10:44:06  
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?

Nobody is denying it's there, they just don't want to publish ISIS propaganda.
Deleting it from the transcript is in fact denying it is there.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-20 10:54:12  
Investigators Say Orlando Shooter Showed Few Warning Signs Of Radicalization
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TLDR: His profile is that of a typical mass shooter but he showed no outward signs of radicalization.

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As investigators probe the background of Omar Mateen, whose attack on Pulse nightclub in Orlando left 49 people dead, they say he bore few warning signs of radicalization.

Mateen had allegedly pledged allegiance to ISIS in a 911 call during the attack, as The Two-Way has reported. But as further details emerge about the shooter, investigators say Mateen's profile is more like that of a "typical mass shooter" than an individual radicalized by ISIS, as NPR's Dina Temple-Raston reports.

In fact, intelligence officials and investigators say they're "becoming increasingly convinced that the motive for this attack had very little — or maybe nothing — to do with ISIS."

Speaking on Weekend Edition Saturday, Dina says that al-Qaida and ISIS-inspired attacks tend to follow a different pattern. She explains:

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"We know that during the attack the gunman posted messages on Facebook saying he was doing this on behalf of ISIS. But officials have yet to find any of the precursors usually associated with radicalization. They've interviewed dozens of people who either knew him or had contact with Mateen.

"And they say that they've yet to find any indication that he became noticeably more religious, which is one of the indicators of radicalization. He still was going to the same mosque. The way he dressed didn't change. His relationship with his family didn't change in any way. And these are all typically warning signs that parents and friends and educators are told to look for if they're worried that someone they're close to is radicalizing."
She adds "this isn't science," but so far the signs of radicalization aren't there, which has led investigators to wonder whether the 29-year-old invoked the name of ISIS to garner more publicity for his deadly attack.

The assault resulted in a hostage situation, and Mateen was ultimately killed in a firefight with law enforcement officers.

Investigators have also been struck by "how closely Mateen's biography adheres to profiles that they associate with typical mass shooters," Dina adds:

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"He was bullied as a kid in school. He had well-documented behavioral problems. He was aggressive toward other kids. As he got older, things didn't get much better. He took steroids, he jumped from job to job, he had a history of domestic violence. And all these things together fit into a mass shooter's profile."
Dina says Mateen reportedly beat both his first wife and his second one — and "violence and control and power are often precursors to mass attacks." ...

Citing reports that Mateen may have spent time at the Pulse nightclub, which is frequented by gays and lesbians, and used gay dating apps, Dina adds that investigators are beginning to lean towards a particular narrative: "Mateen may have had some problems with his sexuality, maybe even had some latent attraction to men. And he lashed out at the gay community as a result." ...
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 10:58:24  
The most shocking thing about that article Chanti is that NPR is still around...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-20 11:07:10  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?

Nobody is denying it's there, they just don't want to publish ISIS propaganda.
Deleting it from the transcript is in fact denying it is there.

Lynch just hired a new spokesman:

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By fonewear 2016-06-20 11:11:18  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?

Nobody is denying it's there, they just don't want to publish ISIS propaganda.
Deleting it from the transcript is in fact denying it is there.

Lynch just hired a new spokesman:


The Truth I got that from Tom Cruise:

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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-06-20 11:21:01  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?

Nobody is denying it's there, they just don't want to publish ISIS propaganda.
Deleting it from the transcript is in fact denying it is there.
The shooter had no connection to ISIS. Propagating the idea that his so-called allegiance was anything more than a convenient excuse for his hatred just plays into terrorist efforts for further radicalization.
 
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By fonewear 2016-06-20 11:40:16  
I think we need to ban Orlando it will drastically reduce gun violence and the spread of Disney and their propaganda !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-06-20 12:12:06  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?

Nobody is denying it's there, they just don't want to publish ISIS propaganda.
Deleting it from the transcript is in fact denying it is there.
The shooter had no connection to ISIS. Propagating the idea that his so-called allegiance was anything more than a convenient excuse for his hatred just plays into terrorist efforts for further radicalization.

Keep telling yourself that. You're just playing out your own confirmation bias.

I wonder if during the WW2 era there was as large of a political voice that was just as scared to call the nazis by their name.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-06-20 12:38:48  
Well since the organization in question is repeatedly referred to by its name, ISIS, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-06-20 12:38:48  
Nah, but there sure as hell is a huge push to make sure homophobes aren't called by what they really are.
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By Grumpy Cat 2016-06-20 12:43:33  
fonewear said: »
I think we need to ban Orlando it will drastically reduce gun violence and the spread of Disney and their propaganda !

If we just kill everyone, there wouldn't be anyone left for guns to kill.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-20 12:47:09  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
AG Lynch is actively scrubbing references to ISIS out of the 911 transcripts. Nothing like censoring the truth to fit your agenda.

How will liberals defend this?

Nobody is denying it's there, they just don't want to publish ISIS propaganda.
Deleting it from the transcript is in fact denying it is there.
The shooter had no connection to ISIS. Propagating the idea that his so-called allegiance was anything more than a convenient excuse for his hatred just plays into terrorist efforts for further radicalization.

Keep telling yourself that. You're just playing out your own confirmation bias.

I wonder if during the WW2 era there was as large of a political voice that was just as scared to call the nazis by their name.
You mean nazis? The name they gave themselves? Hmm I wonder lol....

Do you honestly think the allies would have lost the war itself if they didn't call them nazis?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-20 12:51:44  
Eh, the enemy was too clearly defined at that point. When it's ambigious, labels can have great psychological effect. That's why you see both sides chucking labels at each other constantly, hoping to see what sticks.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-20 12:52:19  
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-20 12:53:01  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Eh, the enemy was too clearly defined at that point. When it's ambigious, labels can have great psychological effect. That's why you see both sides chucking labels at each other constantly, hoping to see what sticks.
A psychological effect on who in this case?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-20 12:56:48  
Random Politics & Religion #07 sucks just as badly as all of the ones before it and you should feel bad for posting here!

Boycott Random Politics & Religion until they quit nuking the *** every stinking weekend!
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-20 12:57:22  
Because well let's be real here... Could it not have a psychological effect on Muslims? Making them feel already further isolated in this great nation of ours? Possibly driving them into a corner? Leading them to make bad decisions?

Why don't we focus on the enemy in front of us which already has clear labels and names instead of being so hellbent on alienating groups of people... Or explain to me exactly how saying the words Islamic extremist really makes a difference. Do you really believe saying that will win the war on terror? Or is this just another hateful thing we wish to perpetrate cuz we are pissed off about something...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-20 13:03:54  
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Because well let's be real here... Could it not have a psychological effect on Muslims? Making them feel already further isolated in this great nation of ours? Possibly driving them into a corner? Leading them to make bad decisions?

Why don't we focus on the enemy in front of us which already has clear labels and names instead of being so hellbent on alienating groups of people... Or explain to me exactly how saying the words Islamic extremist really makes a difference. Do you really believe saying that will win the war on terror? Or is this just another hateful thing we wish to perpetrate cuz we are pissed off about something...

I don't see how "Islamic extremist" alienates regular Muslims. If anything I think it draws a nice distinction between the people I'm proud to have as friends and coworkers and the murderous lunatics that need to be kept in check.
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