Is It Safe To Say FFXI Is The Greatest MMORPG?

you aren't safe

Absolutely

No, and you should probably start running right now about now...

MMO 2.0 is around the corner with Virtual Reality. Like the Phoenix, the genre will rise from the ashes and it will be magnificent.

At the last comicon Ubisoft and SE had a shared exhibition space and there was a Chocobo ride through some FFXIV zones using VR. No battle, no jumping but you could steer and sprint. It was pretty epic. I managed to get 2 minutes on it. My kids never saw their old man cry, but I was close to it. I can't wait. I need to work a few more years before I can retire. Hopefully by then I can plug my brain into something and live the rest of my days as a wandering PLD for hire.

you're never safe

Some guy ported FFXI zones over to a 3D world and it was pretty epic.

Somehow though, I doubt VR MMOs games will have much substance as seems to be the state of the genre. It's pretty--it doesn't need content!

But gosh I'd be in a lot better shape if I had to walk across Bastok every time I walked across Bastok.

you would die irl every time you had to walk across Windurst

Well the Japanese are quickly coming up with applications for VR that involve more than just aesthetics. We're getting Virtual sex with Anime characters soon. That will keep us all in shape.

Greatest in what regard?

Greatness is not really as subjective as many say it is.
A measure of which is greater can only be done item by item part by part and then the ranking can be done with statistics rather than subjective opinions.

Yeah pretty much.

FFXI was the only one I could stick w/.

The handful of others I've tried just didn't do it for me, so now I'm back to standard RPGs/action games that I neglected during my time with XI, and Smash Bros for my PvP

I have a question is this the greatest thread on the internet of all time ?

I mean, a lot of my FFXI career was avoiding life and looking for fulfillment on a daily basis. So at some point waiting hours and shouting for hours was in some way accomplishing something for me personally :P

but once I found some people id play with every day, we got ***done every day.

the greatest internet*

Greatest MMO of all time? That's World of Warcraft. Greatest currently? I guess FFXIV.

XI is up there in the MMO hall of fame for sure, though, and there's something about the game that's most rewarding for me personally.

I wanted to post a face reaction but can't even find an accurate gif.

Incredibly bad management.

FTFY<3!

The reason we didnt get THF was because Ninja and Thief are "The Same" and we cant have Hide in battle because OF tards cant use common sense. Cant use SA and TA together because having one more OGCD that you have to wait 20 seconds for/have to fit into a 10 second window is "too OP" for people that cant cap out their DPS potential anyway. Then they decide to make NIN the defacto THF after level 50, not on arrival.

It's a sad reflection on the state of the MMO genre if one of the candidates for current best game is a title that goes out of its way to be mediocre at almost every possible opportunity.

The genre has matured.

A genre that was built to be a niche market for RPGers who wanted to advance to the next level has become a prepackaged nightmare of microtransactions, instant gratification, solitude and relative worthlessness.

What made you pick up an MMO was to be with losers like yourself willing to put in hours of work sculpting their online personas. A place where you could RP, a place where you could live out that DnD dream of fully immersing yourself in a character. Life be damned.

Many of us have aged out of that but that is essentially what an MMO did that other genres did not. Now that MMOs are just online, lobby-oriented RPGs in the way that CoD or fighting games do 'massively multiplayer' there is no real connection to anything.

The people you play with don't matter, the gear is constantly made obsolete and any attempts to roleplay is met with backlash from more mainstream gamers who see that stuff as unpalatable. MMORPGs have become junk food titles you play to pass time, with little consequence pumped out like McRibs with blustering marketing guys promising everything then serving up regurgitated ***.

I mean, there's more gameplay in playing with the *** slider in a well manicured Korean MMO that is badly translated, can't be bothered to do anything new and wants me to pay to win.

My succubus wannabe as the best rack in town but *** if I won't grow bored of her within a month then move on to the next place serving up beefcakes.

My biggest problem with FFXI is right now there is what they call "new content" as recycled Ambuscade with different mobs.

I realize they are a bare bones team working on content but there has to be other ways of getting people to continue to play...least I hope so.

If only the resources that were dumped into XIV were put into XI ~ to revamp ui, graphics and stuff.

That was XIV 1.0 and it failed spectacularly.

If All* the resources then >_>

During the 1.0 > 2.0 commercial break, they said that their primary goal for 14 was to be different than 11. That's why 1.0 was so miserable and 1.x was so bad. They didn't have a direction other than "different"--

with the same races and same towns


http://kotaku.com/5963155/new-final-fantasy-xiv-director-talks-about-what-went-wrong-with-the-original

I'd settle for things like gradually downplaying the importance of PlayOnline, so that the 1st impression of someone curious about the game wouldn't consist of waiting hours for updates to finish. I wonder if they could use the test server for this, the button for that in the game seems to still work, at least...

Petition SE to invest in FFXI - 2!