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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2016-09-05 03:10:44  
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Skjalfeirdotter said: »
Okay something more on topic:
Ok, let us know when you get there. By the looks of it, the travel will be a long one.

Balls in the face is more on topic than what you spout.

i'm sorry that the truth is long and boring to you

that video covers a lot
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By Yatenkou 2016-09-05 08:32:18  
Still hate that ***...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-05 08:40:47  
Bahamut.Dannyl said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Skjalfeirdotter said: »
Okay something more on topic:
Ok, let us know when you get there. By the looks of it, the travel will be a long one.

Balls in the face is more on topic than what you spout.

i'm sorry that the truth is long and boring to you

that video covers a lot
How is any of that the "truth"?

I mean, come on. The thing about conspiracy theories is, they are never true. That's their whole definition!
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By Odin.Godofgods 2016-09-05 09:15:19  
saw this today...

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By eliroo 2016-09-05 09:56:10  
I mean, they aren't lying.
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By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-09-05 12:28:56  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Dannyl said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Skjalfeirdotter said: »
Okay something more on topic:
Ok, let us know when you get there. By the looks of it, the travel will be a long one.

Balls in the face is more on topic than what you spout.

i'm sorry that the truth is long and boring to you

that video covers a lot
How is any of that the "truth"?

I mean, come on. The thing about conspiracy theories is, they are never true. That's their whole definition!

What are you talking about? No conspiracy theory ever true? LOL

There are countless theories about conspiracies that turned out to be truth and were proven... just to name a few:
The Dreyfus Affair, The Mafia, MK-ULTRA, Operation Mockingbird, Manhattan Project, Asbestos, Watergate, The Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Operation Northwoods, Testimony of Nayirah (1990), COINTELPRO programs against U.S. Civil Rights Activists (1960s), The Iran-Contra Affair, The BCCI Scandal, CIA Drug Running in Los Angeles (and a lot of other places), Gulf of Tonkin Incident, The Business Plot (1933), Conspiracy to Assassinate Hitler (1944), Operation Ajax, Operation Snow White, Operation Gladio, Innumerable CIA Assassinations (Church Committee), New World Order, Kennedy Assassination – 2nd Congressional Investigation (HSCA) into JFK's Assassination, 1919 World Series Conspiracy (Black Sox Scandal), Karen Silkwood's Murder (1974), CIA Mena, Arkansas Drug Smuggling (1980s), Bohemian Grove, Operation Paperclip, The Round Table, Order of the Illuminati, The Trilateral Commission, Big Brother (Shadow Government), The Federal Reserve Bank...

All of these are/were conspiracies or had conspiracies surrounding them. They were first denied. People said there's no such thing! Then were later proven to be true... in many cases people were forced to admit the truth, often in a count of law with penalties issued or other repercussions.

To make a blanket statement saying that no conspiracy theory was ever true is extremely ludicrous / ignorant. Someone who would say such a thing is either a [paid] troll or some kind controlled disinformation agent.
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By Skjalfeirdotter 2016-09-05 12:30:27  
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I mean, they aren't lying.

That is what politicians do. Lie, cheat, steal, conspire, murder and many other horrible things.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-05 12:44:36  
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Lie, cheat, steal, conspire, murder and many other horrible things
But she's always a woman to me~♫
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By eliroo 2016-09-06 15:32:41  
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So Hillary has somehow managed to leave a mountain of bodies with no glimpse of evidence. I think that qualifies her for ninja status.

I recommend watching the netflix show Narco's.

People in power can easily cover their crimes. The mysterious deaths surrounding the Clinton's could easily be caused by the Clintons. All things considered, I think the Clinton death trail conspiracy theory is pretty believable.


I'm typically not one to buy into crazy theories, but I know full well that people will murder to maintain their power.
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By eliroo 2016-09-06 15:33:17  
I don't kn'o'w wh'y I adde'd so many apostraphes''
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-06 15:38:34  
I'm surprised that people are ignoring Clinton's snub of the Mexican President.

Shows how much of a world leader she is, by ignoring an invitation by our neighbor and one of our strongest trading partners.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-07 17:43:49  
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And Breaking Bad is a great how-to on becoming a meth kingpin. TV /= reality
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By eliroo 2016-09-09 08:38:51  
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reality


Narco's is literally based off of the true story of Pablo Escobar....
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-09 09:23:15  
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
reality


Narco's is literally based off of the true story of Pablo Escobar....

After this season it will based off somebody else... Probably Griselda Blanco.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-09 10:25:18  
Based is a slippery word in the hands of TV show promoters.
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By eliroo 2016-09-09 10:31:22  
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Based is a slippery word in the hands of TV show promoters.

http://www.bustle.com/articles/109023-how-historically-accurate-is-pablo-escobar-on-narcos-youd-be-surprised-by-how-much-is-real

Anyway, the point being that people with money and power can easily make someone disappear with only suspicion pointing at them, which Pablo Escobar did multiple times.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-09 10:48:10  
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Based is a slippery word in the hands of TV show promoters.

"Based", "Inspired by"...
What difference does it make!!!??
My TV writers do what they want/makes money.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-09 20:08:23  
Clinton Slams Trump But Blabbed About Briefing in 2008
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Hillary Clinton slammed Donald Trump for talking about a classified briefing he received — but she's done it, too.

"I think what he said was totally inappropriate, undisciplined," Clinton said at a news conference on Thursday, referring to Trump's claim that he could tell from the "body language" of his briefers that they were unhappy with President Obama.

"I would never comment on any aspect of an intelligence briefing I received," Clinton said.

But as a candidate for president in 2008, Clinton herself commented on a secret briefing, citing it twice in her criticism of the George W. Bush administration.

In a Feb. 25 speech, as a New York senator during the 2008 primaries, she said she had pushed the administration to provide information about their Iraq withdrawal plans.

"They didn't want to talk to us about it, as is their usual response," she said then. "We finally were able to secure a briefing which although classified, I can tell you was cursory. It did not inspire confidence in our readiness to do this important task of withdrawing our troops and equipment."

Clinton also cited the briefing in a Jan. 13, 2008 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press.

"Last spring, I asked for a briefing on what the planning was. Secretary of Defense and the Department of Defense basically said 'We're not going to tell you.' And I said, 'Well, yes you are.' We had such a briefing. It was classified. I can't talk about it, but the bottom line is it was cursory. I don't think that the Bush White House wants there to be much planning."

Clinton received the briefing while a candidate, but it was not a presidential candidate briefing. As a senator from New York serving on the armed services committee, she requested the briefing on Iraq withdrawal plans from the Bush administration.

The Clinton campaign said comparing the briefing to Trump's briefing was unfair.

"There's a difference between a security briefing done by the intel community, and an Iraq policy briefing by Bush's DoD," press secretary Brian Fallon tweeted.

"Members of Congress routinely exit policy briefings held by admin officials & express general dissatisfaction w/policy choices being made."

Trump has also come under fire for his comments from U.S. intelligence officials, who say briefers don't discuss policy and are trained not to betray their thoughts with body language.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-09 20:14:30  
Why are these being compared? o.O
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-09 23:15:29  
In Bizarro World, it makes perfect sense for Clinton to call her opponent out for mishandling classified information. On Earth, however....
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-10 00:52:32  
Blabbing about a classified briefing versus receiving/forwarding a chain email informally marked with (c). Totes the same.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-10 01:38:51  
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Blabbing about a classified briefing versus receiving/forwarding a chain email informally marked with (c). Totes the same.

Let's see, claiming false equivalence when I wasn't equating anything, reducing a Democrat scandal to the most benign terms possible....

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-10 10:02:08  
And hey, speaking of equivalence, people are calling this Hillary Clinton gaffe her "47 percent moment".

CNN:
Clinton: Half of Trump supporters are in 'basket of deplorables'
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-10 12:36:03  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
In Bizarro World, it makes perfect sense for Clinton to call her opponent out for mishandling classified information. On Earth, however....
I laughed hard at the bizarro world reference, I remember seeing a episode of it on adult swim not sure which show its been years.


... on Earth Hillary Clinton goes to jail
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-10 12:40:54  
Found it !!! It was a bizarro episode of sea lab 2020 lol.

Did anyone else see the report of Hillary Clinton crashing a Public Party trying to make it look like everyone was there to see her ?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-10 15:30:10  
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And hey, speaking of equivalence, people are calling this Hillary Clinton gaffe her "47 percent moment".

CNN:
Clinton: Half of Trump supporters are in 'basket of deplorables'
But not really.

1, Romney thought he was talking in private, Clinton knew she was being recorded.

2, Romney's comment insulted some potential voters, those insulted by Clinton are firmly in Trump's pocket camp.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-10 15:51:24  
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
And hey, speaking of equivalence, people are calling this Hillary Clinton gaffe her "47 percent moment".

CNN:
Clinton: Half of Trump supporters are in 'basket of deplorables'
But not really.

1, Romney thought he was talking in private, Clinton knew she was being recorded.

2, Romney's comment insulted some potential voters, those insulted by Clinton are firmly in Trump's pocket camp.

Of course the two comments aren't literally the same, but there are multiple ways that they're comparable to each other. Both came to light in September, both involve presidential candidates trashing a stated percentage of the voters, both were viewed as gaffes that had to be walked back by the candidates, etc.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-10 22:55:34  
Only half?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-11 00:44:15  
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Only half?

Yeah. If they were all deplorable, she might confuse them with her own supporters.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-11 09:13:51  
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Only half?

Actually 52 to 87%.
Data Reveals Hillary Clinton Was Right About Donald Trump’s ‘Deplorable’ Supporters
If anything, she was perhaps too kind in her assessment of the ugly side of Trump’s base.

Huffpo
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