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Random Arguments & Strawmen #15
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-01 17:28:34
Good start.
Is that the only qualifier I listed, or the only one you wish to examine?
Next up Income inequality Ok then.
What about employment rate?
According to this Texas has a 4.7% Unemployment rate vs. Washington being at 5.4%
How about labor participation rate?
Another source shows that labor participation rate in Texas was 64.9%, while Washington is at 63.5%, both states being above national average, but Texas is better at it.
Want to go at it with GDP?
Texas GDP: $1.639 trillion.
Washington GDP: $449 billion.
We can do this all day,
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-01 17:29:26
Good article on the costs and benifits of corporate welfare.
Carrier deal part of growing trend of corporate tax giveaways
The Hill
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Quote: President-elect Donald Trump on Thursday traveled to Indiana to announce a deal to keep about 1,000 furnace manufacturing jobs in the state.
The deal would not have been possible without Vice President-elect Mike Pence, the state’s outgoing governor, and it resolves just one skirmish in an increasingly heated war between states for jobs in a competitive industrial marketplace.
Across the nation, state and local governments spend massive amounts of money every year trying to win over companies. Sometimes, experts say, states reach high-profile deals that cost governments more in the long run than they benefit.
In Indiana, officials agreed to hand $7 million in tax breaks to Carrier’s parent company, United Technologies, over the next 10 years in exchange for keeping a furnace plant open in Indianapolis. Company officials had planned to move about 800 jobs to Mexico.
Another 300 jobs in the company’s research and headquarters arms, which were not scheduled to go to Mexico, will stay in Indianapolis, according to details of the plan first reported by The Wall Street Journal.
Such a giveaway is a drop in the bucket in the fierce competition for jobs.... And? And keep reading. I read the whole thing.
It doesn't state anything wrong at all. What's your point in this?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-01 19:52:39
What do we all think of Palin as VA secretary?
Worth it for the mere fact that the libs trigger level will be over 9000.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-12-01 19:57:18
What do we all think of Palin as VA secretary?
Worth it for the mere fact that the libs trigger level will be over 9000.
The VA has already surrendered...
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By Zerowone 2016-12-01 20:34:31
What do we all think of Palin as VA secretary?
Worth it for the mere fact that the libs trigger level will be over 9000.
Wait so you're saying that appointing a person so obviously unqualified for an important position potentially jeopardizing the life and health of veterans is totally worth it for the sake of rustling some Jim jims?
That's some next level trolling right there
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By Asura.Vyre 2016-12-01 20:44:04
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »Is that why I look up asian porn consistently? Cause I mean, asian women are like, pretty up there for me in terms of beauty.
Also, I wouldn't call it brainwashed. More of a societal conditioning sort of thing. For it to be brainwashing, there needs to be intent from a person, group, organization etc.
What do we all think of Palin as VA secretary?
Worth it for the mere fact that the libs trigger level will be over 9000.
Wait so you're saying that appointing a person so obviously unqualified for an important position potentially jeopardizing the life and health of veterans is totally worth it for the sake of rustling some Jim jims?
That's some next level trolling right there
I don't think it's going to matter who the VA secretary is, because most of the problems intrinsic to the VA have to do with the tangled mess that is bureaucracy.
But also, I wouldn't say she's completely unqualified. She was a governor for 3 years. That's only 2 years less than W, and he was our president for 8 years. /shrug
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-12-01 20:47:43
Good article on the costs and benifits of corporate welfare.
Carrier deal part of growing trend of corporate tax giveaways
The Hill
Openers:
Quote: President-elect Donald Trump on Thursday traveled to Indiana to announce a deal to keep about 1,000 furnace manufacturing jobs in the state.
The deal would not have been possible without Vice President-elect Mike Pence, the state’s outgoing governor, and it resolves just one skirmish in an increasingly heated war between states for jobs in a competitive industrial marketplace.
Across the nation, state and local governments spend massive amounts of money every year trying to win over companies. Sometimes, experts say, states reach high-profile deals that cost governments more in the long run than they benefit.
In Indiana, officials agreed to hand $7 million in tax breaks to Carrier’s parent company, United Technologies, over the next 10 years in exchange for keeping a furnace plant open in Indianapolis. Company officials had planned to move about 800 jobs to Mexico.
Another 300 jobs in the company’s research and headquarters arms, which were not scheduled to go to Mexico, will stay in Indianapolis, according to details of the plan first reported by The Wall Street Journal.
Such a giveaway is a drop in the bucket in the fierce competition for jobs.... And? And keep reading. I read the whole thing.
It doesn't state anything wrong at all. What's your point in this? It gives numbers King. Facts and stats. It doesn't say anything is wrong, it doesn't say anything is right.
Do you understand neutral, non adversarial commentary?
P. S. Oil is worth more than apples and wheat. You also surpass us in ***. you have WAY more cows then we do.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-12-01 20:48:33
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-01 20:49:24
Comparing governing Alaska with governing Texas? I don't know about that.
I agree that agency heads aren't much more than mouth pieces and public figures. The real day to day responsibilities belong to the Deputy Assistant Secretary's.
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By Zerowone 2016-12-01 20:50:50
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-12-01 21:02:29
They are way better than oil pies. Or cow pies.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-01 21:06:12
It gives numbers King. Facts and stats. It doesn't say anything is wrong, it doesn't say anything is right. It states what any business would do to get new customers.
Which is to offer them incentives for buying whatever you are selling.
In these cases, the states are offering tax breaks for corporations to locate new businesses there, because it helps the local economy.
There is nothing wrong, nothing illegal, and most certainly, nothing unethical about it.
What that article does is it paints a picture of possible issues when there is none.
In other words, only weak-minded people will fall for this type of ***.
P. S. Oil is worth more than apples and wheat. You also surpass us in ***. you have WAY more cows then we do. produces a whole lot more than oil and fossil fuels.
You are only stating between 15-17% of the total Texas production. Those figures doesn't even include services rendered.
Nice try.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2016-12-01 21:07:59
Jason Biggs? I guess we know what interfered with your film career after 2003.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-01 21:09:25
They are way better than oil pies. Or cow pies. How about Airplane pies.
Since that is your chief export at 59%
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By Asura.Vyre 2016-12-01 21:18:17
Do GA, KN.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-01 21:30:20
Top exports:
Airplane parts
Chickens
Peaches
and Tractors.
And for an additional bonus:
Top exports for NY: ***.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-01 22:36:15
What do we all think of Palin as VA secretary?
Worth it for the mere fact that the libs trigger level will be over 9000.
Wait so you're saying that appointing a person so obviously unqualified for an important position potentially jeopardizing the life and health of veterans is totally worth it for the sake of rustling some Jim jims?
That's some next level trolling right there How is she unqualified? She was a governor of the largest state in the union.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-12-01 23:12:23
By Yatenkou 2016-12-02 00:37:30
What do we all think of Palin as VA secretary?
Worth it for the mere fact that the libs trigger level will be over 9000.
Wait so you're saying that appointing a person so obviously unqualified for an important position potentially jeopardizing the life and health of veterans is totally worth it for the sake of rustling some Jim jims?
That's some next level trolling right there I think she along with Romney will push for some good changes in VA policy, yeah they might not be qualified, but then again palin will be working with Romney if what I heard was correct.
Onto more important things, I've been hearing that electors are going to vote against trump, any reliable source of info on this?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-12-02 00:49:33
Onto more important things, I've been hearing that electors are going to vote against trump, any reliable source of info on this?
Nothing really "reliable". Even the sauciest rumors say that they could get a max of 4-6 electors willing to vote against him, but nothing suggesting that they would vote for Clinton instead. Beyond that, one of the main groups trying to orchestrate this claims to have half a dozen voting against Hillary Clinton, too. I guess the goal would be to destroy faith in the electoral college and not necessarily get Clinton elected. There is no serious threat to Trump.
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By Yatenkou 2016-12-02 00:53:40
Onto more important things, I've been hearing that electors are going to vote against trump, any reliable source of info on this?
Nothing really "reliable". Even the sauciest rumors say that they could get a max of 4-6 electors willing to vote against him, but nothing suggesting that they would vote for Clinton instead. Beyond that, one of the main groups trying to orchestrate this claims to have half a dozen voting against Hillary Clinton, too. I guess the goal would be to destroy faith in the electoral college and not necessarily get Clinton elected. There is no serious threat to Trump. Ok good good, also I don't wanna spoil any big surprises, but stick to the Wisconsin recount when it's completed, promise you there's gonna be some lovely fireworks.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2016-12-02 00:54:25
What do we all think of Palin as VA secretary?
Worth it for the mere fact that the libs trigger level will be over 9000.
Wait so you're saying that appointing a person so obviously unqualified for an important position potentially jeopardizing the life and health of veterans is totally worth it for the sake of rustling some Jim jims?
That's some next level trolling right there How is she unqualified? She was a governor of the largest state in the union. She also quit because it was hard. And remember, she also her blamed her son's time in the military for the reason he beat his girlfriend.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-02 03:30:48
Leaving curriculum aside...have you guys never heard her talk? She's completely nuts lol.
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By eliroo 2016-12-02 08:09:30
Good start.
Is that the only qualifier I listed, or the only one you wish to examine?
Next up Income inequality Ok then.
What about employment rate?
According to this Texas has a 4.7% Unemployment rate vs. Washington being at 5.4%
How about labor participation rate?
Another source shows that labor participation rate in Texas was 64.9%, while Washington is at 63.5%, both states being above national average, but Texas is better at it.
Want to go at it with GDP?
Texas GDP: $1.639 trillion.
Washington GDP: $449 billion.
We can do this all day,
We really can. Are you really going to just compare GDP and not GDP per capita? Because Washington has TX beat there:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
By eliroo 2016-12-02 08:12:36
How about Average income: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
We could really keep at this all day.
By fonewear 2016-12-02 08:25:42
Leaving curriculum aside...have you guys never heard her talk? She's completely nuts lol.
All women are nuts what's your point ?
By fonewear 2016-12-02 08:26:38
Let's not most of us can't do basic arithmetic !
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