Random Arguments & Strawmen #15
Eorzea Time
Item Search
 
詳細検索
Player Search
 
詳細検索
Free Co. Search
 
言語: JP EN FR DE
日本語版のFFXIVPRO利用したい場合は、上記の"JP"を設定して、又はjp.ffxivpro.comを直接に利用してもいいです
users online
フォーラム » Everything Else » Politics and Religion » Random Arguments & Strawmen #15
Random Arguments & Strawmen #15
First Page 2 3 ... 38 39 40 ... 46 47 48
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-12-08 10:20:33
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
But good try Nik.
Acceptable attempt.

Unless you have run a sucessful business you have no understanding of what anything costs to make.

Learning how to say "Would you like an apple pie with that?" didn't grant you any insight into the inner workings of a restaurant.

One example.
Typically an employee costs twice their salary to employ.
[+]
 Sylph.Cherche
Offline
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
By Sylph.Cherche 2016-12-08 10:26:02
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
I'd also imagine there's a fair bit of loss in the whole producing more product than you sell.
Spoilage
This *** a doozy. Particularly because of ridiculous inaccuracy with reporting.
 Zerowone
Offline
Posts: 9772
By Zerowone 2016-12-08 10:29:14
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Rooks hasn't been running the website or handling the financials since Meshi ran a MD5 decryption on his account, changed his password and made himself a mod. Rooks = Meshi now.

Don't quote me I'm quoting Niko's drunken mutterings
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-08 10:33:27
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
I'd also imagine there's a fair bit of loss in the whole producing more product than you sell.
Spoilage
This *** a doozy. Particularly because of ridiculous inaccuracy with reporting.
Depends on how it's reported.

If it's reported at cost, that's not really inaccurate. That's actually GAAP.
[+]
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-12-08 10:36:00
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Zerowone said: »
Niko's drunken mutterings

[+]
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 10:37:25
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.

I swear to Christ middle age middle-upper-class women are the most entitled *** people on the planet. There's a reason the "I'd like to speak with a manager" haircut is known the way it is!
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 10:37:48
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Ramyrez said: »
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.

Or Google, for that matter. Whatever.
 Sylph.Cherche
Offline
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
By Sylph.Cherche 2016-12-08 10:38:59
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
I'd also imagine there's a fair bit of loss in the whole producing more product than you sell.
Spoilage
This *** a doozy. Particularly because of ridiculous inaccuracy with reporting.
Depends on how it's reported.

If it's reported at cost, that's not really inaccurate. That's actually GAAP.
I mean more along the lines of there's a lot of product in kitchens that just isn't reported as being wasted due to spoilage or overproduction or misshandling.

Not a huge issue for say, diners, but it's a *** in a buffet setting.
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-08 10:39:15
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Ramyrez said: »
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.

I swear to Christ middle age middle-upper-class women are the most entitled *** people on the planet. There's a reason the "I'd like to speak with a manager" haircut is known the way it is!
It's the "everyone is entitled to an opinion nobody wants" mindset.
[+]
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 10:39:45
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
but it's a *** in a buffet setting.


I hate buffets. I really do.
 Sylph.Cherche
Offline
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
By Sylph.Cherche 2016-12-08 10:40:59
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
I was extremely happy to get out of there.

Customers suck. All of them.
[+]
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 10:41:02
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.

I swear to Christ middle age middle-upper-class women are the most entitled *** people on the planet. There's a reason the "I'd like to speak with a manager" haircut is known the way it is!
It's the "everyone is entitled to an opinion nobody wants" mindset.

Eh. And I'm probably one of them just expressing mine here.

I guess I just have a very particular mindset having been both a poor customer service worker and now the other side of the equation.
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-08 10:41:14
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
I'd also imagine there's a fair bit of loss in the whole producing more product than you sell.
Spoilage
This *** a doozy. Particularly because of ridiculous inaccuracy with reporting.
Depends on how it's reported.

If it's reported at cost, that's not really inaccurate. That's actually GAAP.
I mean more along the lines of there's a lot of product in kitchens that just isn't reported as being wasted due to spoilage or overproduction or misshandling.

Not a huge issue for say, diners, but it's a *** in a buffet setting.
How non-publicly traded companies do their books is their own prerogative.

Wrong information just feeds into more wrong information. It's impossible to dictate (or even enforce) GAAP to a bunch of businesses who sole aspect is survival.
[+]
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 10:42:38
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
I was extremely happy to get out of there.

Customers suck. All of them.

I luckily never worked food service personally, but my mother did for many, many years.

She was very good at it and also did supervisory work in that setting, but it makes her hard to go out to eat with sometimes. My stepdad and I always have to nab the check so we can pay and tip, because she's so exacting and hypercritical of every little thing a server does that if we let her cover things they'll never get a respectable gratuity.
[+]
 Sylph.Cherche
Offline
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
By Sylph.Cherche 2016-12-08 10:46:45
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
I find that odd. I find myself hyper-aware of all the stresses being a server has attached to it and very forgiving of mistakes. Especially ones that are outside of their control. Such as a cook *** up.

Maybe it's because I, as a cook, work so closely with them.
[+]
 Sylph.Cherche
Offline
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
By Sylph.Cherche 2016-12-08 10:49:10
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Also, did someone actually say kitchens are a safe work environment?

Excuse me as I die from laughter.
[+]
 Lakshmi.Zerowone
Offline
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Zerowone
Posts: 6949
By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-08 10:51:29
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Soounds like my wife and mother in law. She was a financial controller for several franchises in the serving and gaming (casinos) industry . She's tenacious on bad service experiences.
[+]
 Zerowone
Offline
Posts: 9772
By Zerowone 2016-12-08 10:55:08
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Also, did someone actually say kitchens are a safe work environment?

Excuse me as I die from laughter.

Only when you compare high stress mixed with drugs, eccentric personalities, sharp knives and hot fires to something like combat infantry.
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 10:57:50
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Also, did someone actually say kitchens are a safe work environment?

Excuse me as I die from laughter.

Oooh I missed that one.

Yeah. Kitchens are decidedly not safe. Burns and cuts are a daily occurrence.
[+]
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 10:58:25
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Zerowone said: »
Only when you compare high stress mixed with drugs, eccentric personalities, sharp knives and hot fires to something like combat infantry.

Oh man. I wasn't even factoring in the substance abuse.
[+]
 Asura.Dameshi
Forum Moderator
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: dameshi
Posts: 29745
By Asura.Dameshi 2016-12-08 10:59:39
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Zerowone said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Also, did someone actually say kitchens are a safe work environment?

Excuse me as I die from laughter.

Only when you compare high stress mixed with drugs, eccentric personalities, sharp knives and hot fires to something like combat infantry.
Oddly enough, some days I almost miss working in a kitchen.
Almost.
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-08 11:07:51
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.

I swear to Christ middle age middle-upper-class women are the most entitled *** people on the planet. There's a reason the "I'd like to speak with a manager" haircut is known the way it is!
It's the "everyone is entitled to an opinion nobody wants" mindset.

Eh. And I'm probably one of them just expressing mine here.

I guess I just have a very particular mindset having been both a poor customer service worker and now the other side of the equation.
I wasn't referring to you personally by the way. Just letting you know.
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 11:11:57
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I wasn't referring to you personally by the way. Just letting you know.

Oh, yeah. I know.

But never presume I am exempt from my own hatred of humanity!
[+]
 eliroo
Offline
Posts: 2442
By eliroo 2016-12-08 11:14:15
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Quote:
Now who's strawmanning again?

Except you said:

Quote:
Livable welfare is dangerous, because if you make it so you don't have to work to survive, then nobody works. Who is going to make your food/clothing/buildings then?

Which caries that implication pretty heavily.
 Lakshmi.Zerowone
Offline
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Zerowone
Posts: 6949
By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-08 11:14:53
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I wasn't referring to you personally by the way. Just letting you know.

Oh, yeah. I know.

But never presume I am exempt from my own hatred of humanity!
Or exempt from being an upper middle class middle aged woman o_O?
 Valefor.Sehachan
Guide Maker
Offline
サーバ: Valefor
Game: FFXI
user: Seha
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-08 11:15:03
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Ramyrez said: »
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.
When I go out to restaurants with dad we always leave comments on tripadvisor. And we do see often people who *** at things being expensive when instead they're really average for what they offer(I think some people just got no clue what to expect from a restaurant, or order wine and then get shocked when it's pricey).
That being said if a place is actually expensive it has to be noted for other potential costumers who read those guides for a reason. Many people desire cheap over fancy afterall.
 eliroo
Offline
Posts: 2442
By eliroo 2016-12-08 11:15:54
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
We tax dividends as income, but we don't tax the increase in an investment's value unless its sold. Then we call it capital gains.

This is what I was talking about. Thank you, I didn't know the correct terminology.
 eliroo
Offline
Posts: 2442
By eliroo 2016-12-08 11:18:18
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.
When I go out to restaurants with dad we always leave comments on tripadvisor. And we do see often people who *** at things being expensive when instead they're really average for what they offer(I think some people just got no clue what to expect from a restaurant, or order wine and then get shocked when it's pricey).
That being said if a place is actually expensive it has to be noted for other potential costumers who read those guides for a reason. Many people desire cheap over fancy afterall.

As someone who "yelps" a lot, I find the price criticism only solid when the price doesn't match the meal which will happen a lot. I hate it when that is the only thing they rate though.

"1 star, food was too expensive!"

Great but how was the food?
 Lakshmi.Zerowone
Offline
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Zerowone
Posts: 6949
By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-08 11:23:02
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I just get tired of seeing great restaurants rated down on Yelp for being too expensive.
When I go out to restaurants with dad we always leave comments on tripadvisor. And we do see often people who *** at things being expensive when instead they're really average for what they offer(I think some people just got no clue what to expect from a restaurant, or order wine and then get shocked when it's pricey).
That being said if a place is actually expensive it has to be noted for other potential costumers who read those guides for a reason. Many people desire cheap over fancy afterall.

There is a certain degree of "subjectiveness" (not a real word) when it comes down to this. While subjectivity (a real word) defines expensive v inexpensive for the individual. To get to the point; a 20-30$ plate of food might be considered expensive, especially when there are 2-4 people on the bill but it's not that expensive when compared to 60-80$ or more a plate. Then there is the ambiance factor... hmmm I might have abscond to the Sardine Factory in Monterey now.
http://sardinefactory.com/menus/entrees/
[+]
 Ramyrez
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2016-12-08 11:24:58
Link | 引用 | 返事
  
Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Or exempt from being an upper middle class middle aged woman o_O?

I'll be whatever I wanna do.
[+]
Top Show Op
First Page 2 3 ... 38 39 40 ... 46 47 48