Random Politics & Arguments Over Nothing #16

Stop treating this like its a flipping reality show.

Not sure if this is legit but I'm hearing from people (trying to figure out the source of this info to find out if it's legit) it the ODNI (the guys who oversee all intel in the country) is not endorsing the CIA's claims because there's no evidence.

Again, I'm just hearing this, trying to find a source that doesn't sound conspiracy theory, but I just wanna drop this here for discussion sake

How is this a liberal echo chamber when half of you are conservatives?

Are we chatting from separate rooms?

Then de facto we are exposed to different views and don't live in echo chambers.

How is this a liberal echo chamber when half of you are conservatives?

Are we chatting from separate rooms?

I don't think he knows what "echo chamber" means.

Rex Tillerson must be happy he will be able to make billions by removing Russia's economical sanctions. A great deal maker for sure.

Rex Tillerson must be happy he will be able to make billions by removing Russia's economical sanctions. A great deal maker for sure.

More weight to the "just politics" argument. Don't expect the libs to take you seriously through their own echo chamber though.

Just pointing the obvious conflict of interest.

You are wrong KN. Yaten's statement was made on this board so the only "libs" that Yaten would have to worry about not taking him seriously are on this board. Nausi was clearly talking about this board.

I hate that I have to explain that.

Just pointing the obvious conflict of interest. Let's put this in your own words. Don't you find that suspicious?

You should know who I'm talking about.

Those are the people living in their own echo chamber. Nausi wasn't talking about the forum in general, just those who don't discuss issues other than to those who they agree with. AKA, an echo chamber.

If he keeps consuming all that salt he's bound to get high blood pressure.

Sometimes you have to be more blunt on these topics:

ExxonMobil has operations and business interests in Russia that are on hold because of imposed sanctions. Tillerson wants to remove those sanctions and get these operations restarted:

Sakhalin Island
Kara Sea
West Siberia (shale)
Black Sea

Ties with Russia

Tillerson has ties with Vladimir Putin; the two men have been associates since Tillerson represented Exxon’s interests in Russia during Boris Yeltsin's premiership.[15] John Hamre, the president and CEO of the Center for Strategic and International Studies (for which Tillerson is a board member), states that Tillerson "has had more interactive time with Vladimir Putin than probably any other American with the exception of Henry Kissinger."[15]

Tillerson is a friend of Igor Sechin,[16] the leader of the Kremlin's siloviki faction,[17] who is "widely believed to be Russia's second-most powerful person" after President Putin.[18]

In 2011, on behalf of ExxonMobil, Tillerson signed an agreement with Russia for drilling in the Arctic that could be valued up to $300 billion.[19] Although the company began drilling in the Kara Sea in summer 2014, sanctions against Russia during the Ukrainian crisis brought the project to a halt in September of that year.[20][21]

In 2013, Tillerson was awarded the Order of Friendship by Putin.[12]

Well that person hardly posts here anymore.

Also, as I explained, he had to be referring to this board as the context dictates that. You can't just warp his statement to prove us wrong, it is there and it is evident. It is a relatively simple thing that you are making quite complex.

As for the whole "echo chamber" argument both Liberals and Conservatives have their own echo chambers.

I think simply reading comments that disagree with your opinions and views puts you out of the echo chamber. So while some people may be opinionated, if they read adverse opinions regularly then they aren't in one.

So far, I have only seen one person on this forum who goes out of his/her way to block people with adverse opinions.

I miss Lordgrim.

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However, depending on how the information was obtained we may not see their evidence until it is declassified in 60 years, if ever.

Certain people, especially those who choose to block others who do not share their viewpoints, rarely go outside their "comfort zone" when discussing politics here. The few times they do respond is to make snide comments about certain people (Sav, Rav, Nausi, Yat, myself) just to try to humiliate us....

You are wrong KN. Yaten's statement was made on this board so the only "libs" that Yaten would have to worry about not taking him seriously are on this board. Nausi was clearly talking about this board.

I hate that I have to explain that.