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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 11:21:02  
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Replace "left" with "right" and "Clinton" with "Trump" and your entire argument goes right against you.

I don't think she was making a sweeping claim that everyone here likes Trump.

I do think his stalwart forum fighters are a lot more vocal though.
Well, not today, but in the past....
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 11:21:32  
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
As a geography enthusiast, I can't wait to see how the world will look like when Russia annexes America in two years!!

Well, at least Russian Orthodox churches are pretty, and Cyrillic is a cooler looking alphabet.
Don't worry, Russia will annex America as soon as Obama takes away our guns.
Cmon... you can't really be one of those people... lol...

He isn't. It was a joke.
It was an opportunity to make a snark comment. Let him have it, it's all he has anymore.
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By eliroo 2016-12-13 11:24:05  
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It was an opportunity to make a snark comment. Let him have it, it's all he has anymore.

I always love it when someone takes a humorous situation and turns it into an insulting low blow. Isn't there a name for that type of jab?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 11:24:22  
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Maybe in 2020 or 2024 the Democrats will have an actual open primary and we'll see a dozen liberals brawl it out instead of a single one being lead to their coronation.
Don't get your hopes up.

It really looks like they aren't even learning from their own mistakes this election cycle. What hope is there that they learn for the next?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-13 11:26:51  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Replace "left" with "right" and "Clinton" with "Trump" and your entire argument goes right against you.

I don't think she was making a sweeping claim that everyone here likes Trump.

I do think his stalwart forum fighters are a lot more vocal though.
Yeah it never happened lol.

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You defended Hillary's actions
Or this for that matter. Like I said, you're just making ***up.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 11:28:49  
They can't exactly ignore him after he becomes president though.

Otherwise, expect a complete defunding of the Energy Department. Well, expect it anyway.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-12-13 11:32:02  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
As a geography enthusiast, I can't wait to see how the world will look like when Russia annexes America in two years!!

Well, at least Russian Orthodox churches are pretty, and Cyrillic is a cooler looking alphabet.
Don't worry, Russia will annex America as soon as Obama takes away our guns.
Cmon... you can't really be one of those people... lol...

He isn't. It was a joke.
It was an opportunity to make a snark comment. Let him have it, it's all he has anymore.
While it is kinda cute that you guys answer stuff for eachother... all I did was offer up some disbelief over a silly comment you made... so what is it exactly that's all that I have left? Or is this just another one of your dismiss someone for nothing then give eachother a high five for no reason lol...
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-13 11:34:12  
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Maybe in 2020 or 2024 the Democrats will have an actual open primary and we'll see a dozen liberals brawl it out instead of a single one being lead to their coronation.
Don't get your hopes up.

It really looks like they aren't even learning from their own mistakes this election cycle. What hope is there that they learn for the next?

Says the guy pulling for the party of Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.

I'm just sayin'; stranger things have happened.

I will say I think Trump is only "not controlled" by the GOP in that he's far too aggressive for their liking and he isn't willing to "spin" what they want so it's as palatable as possible for their opposition. But controlling all the cards, who says that even matters?

I really don't like it, but pragmatically speaking now is the very best time for them to have a guy like Trump. They can close ranks and block anything they really disagree with, and otherwise shrug and go "president said so, our hands our tied!" and use him as a scapegoat for backlash.

He's the perfect figurehead for them, really.
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By eliroo 2016-12-13 11:35:57  
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He's the perfect figurehead for them, really.


As long as he remains complaint.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-12-13 11:40:49  
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He's the perfect figurehead for them, really.
They like Pence more and are really happy he is going to be VP.
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By fonewear 2016-12-13 11:42:40  
Maybe we should change the title to say "Lunatics share political views with other lunatics." At least it will be accurate !
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-12-13 11:49:42  
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I will say I think Trump is only "not controlled" by the GOP in that he's far too aggressive for their liking and he isn't willing to "spin" what they want so it's as palatable as possible for their opposition. But controlling all the cards, who says that even matters?

He's not controlled as in he doesn't need their approval for anything. It goes something like this

Candidate 1 to R(D)NC leader -> I got some idea's and I really thinkg people will follow me so I'd like your support in getting elected to X position.

Candidate 2 to R(D)NC leader -> Me too, me too.

R(D)NC Leader reply -> We don't care about your ideas, if you want our support then you must agree to do as we say and offer your support or vote in accordance to our leadership.

Candidate 1 in reply -> Well I don't really want to do such a thing, I feel I should be someone that represents the voters.

Candidate 2 to R(D)NC -> I'll do it!

Candidate 1 -> Hello ... anyone there ...

R(D)NC Leader to world -> Introducing Candidate 2, the hope and change you all can believe in. All media attention will be given to Candidate's 2 and 3 with focus on who radical Candidate 3 is and how we might not be ready for such a change. Candidate 2 will run on a similar platform but be more moderate and likable. That other guy will never be mentioned, ever, zero attention is to be given to them.

That is how that works. Whomever they want to blacklist they just refuse to publish or report any information about. Trump ran for President in 2012 but the Republican party blacklisted him and absolutely nobody gave him any attention. He was deliberately shut out of the race so that they could position their own chosen candidate. He saw what was happening, withdrew and then reformed his plan. This time he opened with a very loud announcement that if they didn't play fair he would spend his own vast resources to run independent and split their vote against Her Majesty. He didn't use regular channels, he didn't' ask for permission, he didn't "play fair", he just opened up with the treat and forced the RNC to accept him as a candidate for their primary. Several times they attempted to disarm him so they could sabotage his candidacy and get their own person in, and each time he refused to put down the gun. That's what the whole "oath to not run against the party" *** on national TV was about.

Now if someone inside the Liberal camp had done the same thing then maybe they might of had the appearance of a fair open primary instead of the sham it was.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-12-13 11:53:58  
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 12:04:22  
Sup Rav!

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By eliroo 2016-12-13 12:05:31  
Asura.Saevel said: »
He's not controlled as in he doesn't need their approval for anything.

I see someone missed the Checks and Balances lesson in class.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 12:09:34  
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He's not controlled as in he doesn't need their approval for anything.

I see someone missed the Checks and Balances lesson in class.
Yeah, especially the part where the president is controlled by the party leader.

I mean, I thought the checks and balances were in conjunction of the trifecta of government (legislative branch, executive branch, and judicial branch). I completely forgot the fourth part of government (the party branch).
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By eliroo 2016-12-13 12:10:25  
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eliroo said: »
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He's not controlled as in he doesn't need their approval for anything.

I see someone missed the Checks and Balances lesson in class.
Yeah, especially the part where the president is controlled by the party leader.

I mean, I thought the checks and balances were in conjunction of the trifecta of government (legislative branch, executive branch, and judicial branch). I completely forgot the fourth part of government (the party branch).

Clearly you have been out of American Politics for awhile.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 12:13:42  
eliroo said: »
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eliroo said: »
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He's not controlled as in he doesn't need their approval for anything.

I see someone missed the Checks and Balances lesson in class.
Yeah, especially the part where the president is controlled by the party leader.

I mean, I thought the checks and balances were in conjunction of the trifecta of government (legislative branch, executive branch, and judicial branch). I completely forgot the fourth part of government (the party branch).

Clearly you have been out of American Politics for awhile.
*Checks the US Constitution*

Nope, not seeing any 4th branch of government there....
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By fonewear 2016-12-13 12:17:30  
Trump is meeting with Kanye West. Order is restored with the world.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 12:19:40  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
eliroo said: »
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eliroo said: »
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He's not controlled as in he doesn't need their approval for anything.

I see someone missed the Checks and Balances lesson in class.
Yeah, especially the part where the president is controlled by the party leader.

I mean, I thought the checks and balances were in conjunction of the trifecta of government (legislative branch, executive branch, and judicial branch). I completely forgot the fourth part of government (the party branch).

Clearly you have been out of American Politics for awhile.
*Checks the US Constitution*

Nope, not seeing any 4th branch of government there....

There is 5 if you count the illuminati.
Might as well make it 6, and include the Free Masons.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-13 12:20:40  
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He's the perfect figurehead for them, really.


As long as he remains complaint.

Good luck getting him to NOT be a complaint!

...amusing typos are amusing.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-13 12:22:04  
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Nope, not seeing any 4th branch of government there....

Jewluminati, of course.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-12-13 12:22:22  
Ramyrez said: »
eliroo said: »
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He's the perfect figurehead for them, really.


As long as he remains complaint.

Good luck getting him to NOT be a complaint!

...amusing typos are amusing.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-13 12:26:59  
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Trump is meeting with Kanye West. Order is restored with the world.
King of the low info voter himself!
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By eliroo 2016-12-13 12:27:01  
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Ramyrez said: »
eliroo said: »
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He's the perfect figurehead for them, really.


As long as he remains complaint.

Good luck getting him to NOT be a complaint!

...amusing typos are amusing.

I go with the mantra of "Just click submi"
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By fonewear 2016-12-13 12:27:22  
Like a boss:

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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-12-13 12:28:45  
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I'm glued to my screen here and I wanna know what's going ooooooooon!!!
Like I said in my post this discussion of hacking and influence by -potentially- Russian state actors is also not new information.

It has been going on for several months within MSM and longer than that on technology sites

Ars recently wrote an updated article about the various hacks and what evidence has been found that is publically available
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-12-13 12:32:16  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
eliroo said: »
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He's not controlled as in he doesn't need their approval for anything.

I see someone missed the Checks and Balances lesson in class.
Yeah, especially the part where the president is controlled by the party leader.

I mean, I thought the checks and balances were in conjunction of the trifecta of government (legislative branch, executive branch, and judicial branch). I completely forgot the fourth part of government (the party branch).

It's normal for them to accept that the elected leadership are just puppets for the unelected leadership. After all how could they be sure that the right things got done, elected leadership might decide to do something unsanctioned and we can't have any of that. Independent thought and action are not allowed, it must be politically correct thought and action.
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