Random Politics & Arguments Over Nothing #16

This makes for a fun game!

I think your Wife's name is Aurora or Pocahontas! I find it hard that anyone could have trouble pronouncing any of the names of the princesses though, at least in americuh.

This isn't a good term for it. Everyone thinks they are hacking the polling machines when really it is just refering to them hacking the emails.

Who the hell are you even talking to now? <_<

The liberals in the Echo Chamber

Here's the thing. There is the truth of what happened, and there is what is being reported (and how). This should be investigated, but it's being reported as if Russia handed Trump an illegitimate win, which isn't true.

Still stuck on the Donald Trump think, personally.

He's such a *** douche. He's like the time-traveling child of one of the Jersey Shore skanks and the somehow-embodied personification of every wrong lesson someone took away from the 80s.

Yea I agree, people are acting like Russia changed the votes. They just influenced the information received but honestly the media was doing the same thing.

Given how close some of the states were, it is fair to say their influence potentially changed the outcome of the election, but as its impossible to actually gauge that, asserting it as fact and stating that it renders the results invalid is problematic.

It also doesn't change the fact that Trump attained the GOP nomination regardless of the Hillary stuff.

Everyone's known that for decades now, they just chose to look the other way because it was politically expedient. Russia's current executive leader also happens to be their former departmental leader on clandestine political influence, otherwise known as a spymaster. Unlike what the movies depict, the vast majority of espionage isn't stealing secret nuclear plans but influencing a target nations political system to effect changes that are favorable to your own nation. We knew Russia had an extremely active, well funded and subversive political element since the 70's and that they were deploying this element to influence and alter the political election system in democratic nations. They wanted to create an environment more conducive to their own national goals, which in the 70's were about demilitarizing the western nations and enacting policies that would escalate into economic collapse. Nowadays they just want to influence countries to create economic conditions for favorable to them since the world power stage has moved from purely military into the economic arena.

But hey several posters here would criticize me every time I pointed to the Solviets for their cold war era shenanigans that influenced the US's liberal party.

I got you some salt in case you run out !

Yeah. I always thought so too before I met her.

"Prepare to be disappointed."

There is zero danger of this, figuratively or literally.

I rather have a *** douche than a corrupt, egotistical, and pigheaded douche that was the democrat/liberal candidate.

I know I'm late to the party here

But are you honestly claiming Trump isn't all of those things

And the sad part is, people seem to think that this is a one-way street.

Shall we bring up Hillary Clinton's accusation on Putin's election and how it was illegal?

Yet when it was suggested he's having his political opponents killed people balk and try to defend him. Even in the West!

...yet the same people have no problem believing various idiotic conspiracy theories about their own government.

Confirmation bias is awesome.

That's not to say I'm not guilty of it at times myself.

Don't be stupid.

It's not a party until you're here, honky.

He isn't corrupt, he isn't even in political power yet.

At least wait until he becomes corrupted before accusing him of doing so.

Clinton Foundation says hi by the way. For the low price of $15 million, you too can influence US policies!

This feels like such a nitpicky semantics argument.

If he's the one doing the corrupting by paying people off, that's even worse, and he almost undoubtedly has done this.

Also, to reiterate (damn it Rooks, give me my edit button back!), if you are going to compare the two, Clinton is by far the most egotistical and pigheaded douche of the two.

If we are going to go that route, then you have done the exact same thing.

I say that because I have as much evidence as you do.

You can't pull this ***after I know you were arguing with me about Hillary's emails.

Same. Damn. Thing.

Zero chance of this happening. Even if I re-enabled it globally someday in a fit of idiocy, yours stays off forever, just because you whine about it so much.



If you really want to put someone's ego ahead of Donald Trump's on the ladder, then maybe you need to admit that you're just rooting for laundry at this point

Yet neither Clinton is in prison for anything, and it doesn't stop you from maligning them.

And there's evidence Trump has abused his own charity...

I am far, far too vain to pay anyone off for anything.

Yet give it time !