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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-09 16:03:00  
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Also facts get in the way of getting things done instead arguing over whether Russia hacked us or not. We could be creating jobs building infrastructure etc. But no we must defeat Russia and the evil empire that threatens to read your e-mails !

I don't even read my emails. I need someone to hack in and tell me what they say.
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By fonewear 2017-01-09 16:04:28  
I've long sense given in to the prospects of people reading my e-mails be it Russia or our government. They will only learn what type of sexual fetishes I'm into...and how I won a free boat cruise.
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By fonewear 2017-01-09 16:06:14  
In news no one cares about Uncle Bernie is going to have a Town Hall to discuss why he is irrelevant to the people that didn't vote for him !

Be sure to tune into CNN at 9 pm !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-09 16:15:10  
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In news no one cares about Uncle Bernie is going to have a Town Hall to discuss why he is irrelevant to the people that didn't vote for him !

Be sure to tune into CNN at 9 pm !

I remember him. He's still alive?
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By fonewear 2017-01-09 16:17:08  
Yea I really don't get the point of bringing burn out of his cabin in Vermont. I guess CNN has to fill programming hours...

The biggest news I couldn't believe it was some woman named Streep I never heard of criticizing Trump.

Not North Korean pursuing a nuclear weapon that isn't as important as the Golden Globes.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-09 16:19:11  
Well, it's hard to determine what's the bigger joke - North Korea or Hollywood?
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By fonewear 2017-01-09 16:26:00  
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Well, it's hard to determine what's the bigger joke - North Korea or Hollywood?

That is why we must boycott Hollywood and North Korea. I'm going to stop watching North Korean porn. Giving up Hollywood isn't hard I haven't watched a modern movie in a long time.

I guess I won't ever get to see Independence Day 2...Oh well
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-10 12:23:06  
Schumer Sends GOP's Own '09 Letter Back to Mitch McConnell
Says Democrats are prepared to delay Cabinet nominee confirmation hearings


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(Newser) – In 2009, then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell sent then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a letter asking that President Obama's Cabinet nominees not be granted Senate confirmation hearings until the Office of Government Ethics and the FBI had vetted them and other ethical review steps had been taken. On Monday, current Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer sent the same letter back to McConnell, after writing "Mitch" in the recipient field and crossing out Reid, the original recipient—CBS has a picture. Schumer also read the letter out loud on the Senate floor, as a warning to Republicans that, now that the Democrats are the underdogs, they're willing to take the same steps Republicans did years ago to slow down confirmation hearings, Politico reports.

The request comes days after the Office of Government Ethics sent a letter to Senate Democrats airing concerns that Republicans are pushing through the confirmation process—nine of Trump's Cabinet nominees have confirmation hearings scheduled this week, even though the OGE has not released ethics reviews yet for four of them. "To spend an extra day or two on each nominee; even if it takes several weeks to get through them all in order to carefully consider their nominations ... that’s well worth it," Schumer said on the Senate floor Monday. "I only ask respectfully that the Republican majority follow the same set of standards they had in 2009 when the shoe was on the other foot. Especially because these nominees raise particular concerns." McConnell on Sunday pooh-poohed the OGE's concerns.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-01-10 13:10:30  
What would you expect? His wife is also a cabinet appointee, of course he pooh-poohed at the *** for tat he's got moral hazard this time around lulz
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-10 13:30:02  
If their intentions are pure (and not just to allow more time for ridiculous antics like those going on with the Sessions protestors), then I don't see the problem with making sure the process is thorough. Then again, I don't trust anyone in Congress to have pure intentions, so I'm going to roll my eyes at the partisan game-playing no matter what happens.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2017-01-10 13:39:12  
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By fonewear 2017-01-10 13:55:16  
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Only one proper way to respond to this:

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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-10 20:49:53  
Lawmakers broach possible Trump campaign coordination with Russia
The comments come amid an explosive report about allegations of compromising information on the president-elect.

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Oh **** this is explosive big.

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Members of Congress made clear Tuesday they're increasingly willing to broach a taboo topic: possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russian government.

Their emboldened approach comes amid a bombshell CNN report that intelligence officials last week presented Trump with alleged claims by Russian operatives that they have compromising information on the president-elect. According to CNN, Trump was also presented with allegations there was an "exchange of information" during the campaign between his surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.

Trump responded Tuesday night with an emphatic all-caps tweet: "facts I don't like - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!"

The subject is one lawmakers have largely avoided discussing since the presidential election, even as anti-Trump advocacy groups have sounded alarm bells about the president-elect.

But that changed Tuesday, during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Russia's meddling in November's election.

The hearing followed Friday's release of an unclassified version of an intelligence community investigation into Russia's interference in the election, which said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence operation to undermine Hillary Clinton and help Trump.

During the intelligence hearing, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) noted the extensive ties between Trump advisers and the Russian government and pointed to an interview shortly after the election in which a top Russian diplomat said his government had had "contacts" with the Trump campaign.

Wyden then asked FBI Director James Comey, "Has the FBI investigated these reported relationships, and, if so, what are the agency's findings?"

Comey refused to confirm or deny the existence of an investigation, saying he could not comment publicly about such matters. His response raised some eyebrows among Democrats and led to a biting response from Sen. Angus King (I-Maine): "The irony of your making that statement here, I cannot avoid, but I'll move on."

This was Comey's first public appearance since his decision shortly before the presidential election to alert Congress that his agency was examining new emails potentially related to the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails — a move that gave the Trump campaign momentum in the final stretch to Election Day.

"I would never comment on investigations, whether we have one or not, in an open forum like this," Comey said Tuesday. "So I really can't answer it one way or another."

He later acknowledged he was sometimes "tone deaf when it comes to politics."

During his exchange with Comey, Wyden urged the FBI director to provide an unclassified answer to his question before Inauguration Day, saying the American people "have a right to know" whether the FBI is investigating possible ties between the Trump team and Russia.

"If it doesn't happen before January 20th," Wyden said, "I'm not sure it's going to happen."

Several other Democrats on the committee seconded Wyden's request.

And the intelligence panel's ranking member, Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), said the committee's ongoing investigation into Russian meddling in the presidential election should look specifically at possible coordination between the presidential campaigns and the Russian government.

Warner said the committee probe should not seek to "re-litigate the results of the election" but that it must be "thorough."

"In my view, our committee investigation should focus on three broad areas," he said, before listing them: "The Russian hacking and release of stolen information; Russia's use of state-owned media and other means to amplify real and facts I don't like to further their goal; and contact between the Russian government and its agents, and associates of any campaign and candidate."

On Sunday, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham also discussed the possibility of an investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, suggesting that a probe might already be underway.

Asked about the possibility of a probe on NBC's "Meet the Press," the South Carolina senator said: "I believe that it's happening. But you need to talk to them because I don't want to speak for them."

In interview Tuesday, Graham said he does not know whether there's an active FBI investigation but made clear he wants a congressional investigation into every aspect of Russia's election meddling.

"I want to know about all things Russia, whatever they are," Graham said. He added that it's possible the Trump campaign could have had legitimate contacts with Russia, saying it would make sense for a presidential campaign to prepare to take over the White House by laying the groundwork for future dealings with foreign governments.

"Having contact with Russia may make sense," Graham said. "You're one of two groups that can take over. If there were contacts, what kind was it?"

The Trump transition team did not respond Tuesday to questions about the issue.

Tuesday's Senate Intelligence Committee hearing followed last week's release of a declassified version of an investigation by the intelligence community into Russia's involvement in the election.

The investigation concluded Russia was behind the hack of the Democratic National Committee as part of a larger influence campaign aimed, at first, at undermining faith in democratic institutions and then at helping elect Trump. The report offered no evidence for its assertion about Russia's involvement in the DNC hack, saying its sources and methods have to be protected and were included in classified versions.

During his confirmation hearing on Tuesday for attorney general, Sen. Jeff Sessions was asked whether he would recuse himself from potential investigations into the Trump camp's ties to Russia. He would not make such a commitment.

“I don’t think I’ve made any comment on this issue,” said the Alabama Republican. “I would review it and try to do the right thing as to whether or not it would stay within the jurisdiction of the attorney general or not.”

Since the election, lawmakers have largely sought to avoid making statements that would appear to question Trump’s legitimacy.

But during the campaign, then-Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said in a letter to Comey, "it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government," urging Comey to make the information public.

Now, some anti-Trump groups are seeking to raise awareness about the Trump camp's ties to Russia.

The Democratic opposition research group American Bridge blasted Trump for his disparaging comments about the intelligence community — and his ongoing habit of tweeting praise for Putin.

"Whether Trump's pandering to Putin is a result of Trump's potential ties to Russian investors, impending business deals, or simply gratitude for Russia's hacking on his behalf — it's clear that Trump for some reason feels beholden to Putin," said the group's president, Jessica Mackler. "It's a disgrace that Republicans are capitulating to Trump and standing by Trump's attacks on the U.S. intelligence community and defense of Putin."

A number of Trump advisers have connections to Russia.

The president-elect's pick for secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, built strong relationships with Kremlin officials during his tenure as CEO of ExxonMobil, which has sought make inroads in Russia and has lobbied against U.S. sanctions against the country.

Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, set to become Trump's national security adviser, was photographed sitting next to Putin at a 2015 event in Moscow celebrating RT, the news network funded by the Russian government that the U.S. intelligence community says was a major source of anti-Clinton propaganda.

And Paul Manafort, a former chairman of the Trump campaign, did some lobbying work for pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine.
So, tell me me what would James Jesus Angelton have done with Trump?
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By crimsondragon 2017-01-10 22:45:49  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Lawmakers broach possible Trump campaign coordination with Russia
The comments come amid an explosive report about allegations of compromising information on the president-elect.

CNN

Oh **** this is explosive big.

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alleged claims

presented with allegations

could not comment publicly

"If it doesn't happen before January 20th," Wyden said, "I'm not sure it's going to happen."

Graham said he does not know

offered no evidence for its assertion

Harry Reid
So, tell me me what would James Jesus Angelton have done with Trump?

The only explosion here is CNNs ratings hitting the floor.
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By crimsondragon 2017-01-10 22:51:32  
Ooh OH! Here it is on MSNBC getting reported on by this clearly intelligent guy..
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/bombshell-report-on-trump-s-russia-briefing-852067395616

Take a drink every time he says something along the lines of (unsubstantiated/alleged) I.E. "break out the tinfoil hats, it's gonna be a long 4-8yrs".
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By crimsondragon 2017-01-10 22:52:56  
Damn. I can't edit for some reason! Don't forget, 2 drinks every time he says Explosive!
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By fonewear 2017-01-10 23:05:40  
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-10 23:21:30  
That's why The View is called The View.

Because there's only one.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-10 23:31:06  
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Damn. I can't edit for some reason!

You don't have the FFXIAH Platinum Credit Card? You get unlimited edits and 1 achievement point for every $100 spent!
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-01-10 23:43:58  
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That's why The View is called The View.

Because there's only one.

Because having more then one view could confuse liberal voters and they might be exposed to unapproved alien ideas that go counter to the well established, vetted and approved standard viewpoint. This is dangerous to good social order and must be prevented at all costs.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-10 23:46:20  
I'd watch the show, but I already see enough of Joy Behar in my nightmares.
 
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-01-11 08:54:18  
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Medias can say whatever they want, are we living in Nazy Germany !?!?!

Oh that Trump. Pulling out the Godwin and citing the Kremlin this morning was pure comedy.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-11 09:24:44  
The problem with Trump being the top news story so much of the time is that I can never tell when I'm supposed to actually take one of these headlines seriously and be just as outraged as the news source apparently is. Like, what are top stories, usually?

"Some Dude Kills a Lot of People"
"Trump Said a Thing"

With that contrast being noted, is there anything in place to let me know that Trump really stepped in it this time and it's not just a writer having an aneurysm over nothing? I think the titles need to be a little more forward.

"Guys, Trump Actually Said a Thing. It's Not Just Clickbait This Time, I Swear"
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By Viciouss 2017-01-11 09:35:34  
Well you could read his tweets and decide for yourself I guess, Zero is correct, they are pretty funny this morning. He cites Nazi Germany, facts I don't like, and the Kremlin, blames the media for a story that originated from public FBI testimony to Congress. They won't confirm or deny whether they have an active investigation into the Trump team for communicating with Russia during the election. Trump is handling it well, of course.
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By fonewear 2017-01-11 09:49:08  
The only Nazis I know of live here on FFXIAH...and we have plenty of examples...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-01-11 10:02:38  
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Well you could read his tweets and decide for yourself I guess

Okay. I'm reading down the list of his tweets, and here's my reaction to every one so far:



Why? BECAUSE IT'S DONALD TRUMP. It's who he is. It's what he does. Has nobody figured this out by now?
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By eliroo 2017-01-11 10:06:47  
And then on January 21st it turns into "BECAUSE ITS OUT PRESIDENT" "It's what he does".

Making America great again!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-01-11 10:07:39  
Trump tweets to distract the media and public from other things.

So 4 - 8 years of "pay attention to THIS, ignore the man behind the curtain."
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