Random Politics & Religion #18

I heard turnout was better than yesterday.

Eh that may be but what if anything did they accomplish in the long run ? Feeling good for a day or two.

Lying in class about their political beliefs and keeping online conversations strictly private are typical precautions taken by The Donald’s badly outnumbered followers on campus.

“Supporters generally try to keep it hidden from the rest of the student body,” said junior Dylan Perera, 22. “They’re afraid of losing friends, being ridiculed in class, getting worse grades and are even afraid of being assaulted and physically hurt.”

“She freaked out and started yelling and screaming in my face, calling me a racist and a fascist. It was impossible to even have a conversation,” he said.

Left-leaning students and professors alike are working to shut down pro-Trump events and messages they deem unacceptable through a combination of fear, threats, ridicule, police intimidation and physical and verbal attacks.

Claiming “hate speech” or “racism,” they use the system of victimization established on campuses to claim righteous indignation and quash free speech and freedom of expression — and all during the crucial months leading up to the presidential election.

Fear of political violence should not be part of the daily reality for conservative and Republican college students, especially with the November vote less than seven weeks away, yet it’s clear this atmosphere is manifesting itself on campuses with no signs of abatement.

Some students said there’s so much hostility toward Trump on campus that it can be difficult to even mention the candidate. Alexander Spanopoulos, a Vanderbilt University senior, said his peers have accused him of being a bigot, a threat to freedom, a white supremacist, a member of Hitler Youth and an embarrassment to the academic community.

“The most interesting statements hurled against me have been that I should leave the country as soon as possible and that I am not on the list to survive the revolution,” said Spanopoulos, who was born in Greece and raised in Memphis. He sees such statements as an attack on the First Amendment. “Labeling differing opinions as hate speech is thinly-veiled censorship perpetrated by those who are unwilling to engage in difficult conversations,” he said. ” … Conservative beliefs are openly mocked by both students and faculty.”

More students are speaking out about an Orange Coast College professor’s anti-Trump comments recorded in a human sexuality class without her permission.

Olga Perez Stable Cox called Trump’s election “an act of terrorism.”

She also criticized his cabinet picks, referring to adviser Steve Bannon as a white supremacist and saying Vice President-elect Mike Pence is the most anti-gay politician in the United Stated.

After the video of her rant viral, the school’s Young Republicans club filed a formal complaint and is seeking an apology.

Neither student said they have serious political leanings.

“It was kind of just shocking,” said Tanner Webb.

“Students shouldn’t be shamed for their political beliefs,” said Noah Ferber, “or who they vote for.”

Both said they kept quiet for weeks to protect their grades. The two students said they also felt they needed to come forward when the student who shot the video was threatened with suspension or expulsion.

He said the professor asked Trump supporters to stand up.

“She was saying dehumanizing things about Trump supporters,” Webb says, “and nobody felt like they could stand up. Me, in fear of my grade. And then she said, ‘I bet none of you will stand up because you’re embarrassed for yourselves. The rest of the class should look out for them and know who to protect themselves from.'”

Eh that may be but what if anything did they accomplish in the long run ? Feeling good for a day or two.

Trump isn't ideological that is the really funny part. He was a Democrat at one point yet they hate him like a lifelong Republican.

I think all those women today care more about the fact that a sexual predator is in the WH more than the fact that Clinton lost. Just a thought.

I think all those women today care more about the fact that a sexual predator is in the WH more than the fact that Clinton lost. Just a thought.

Sexual predators
Lulz

Vic, you also forget to say "how adorable" with your snarky responses.

He smashed that debate.

These are political debates not academic ones. The objective isn't to score points on some scoreboard or rationally convince voters to vote one way or another, humans don't work that way emotionally. In political debates you want to demonstrate independence, strength of character and project an identity that will emotionally attract people to you. Trump ignored the debate material entirely and focused exclusively on attracting disenfranchised voters by demonstrating he wasn't a "Republican Politician". He deliberately discarded the typical playbook of identity politics "see I'm like you so vote for me". His clinching line was when he publicly acknowledged that he previously bought Hillary Clinton's support and that she did what he wanted when he wanted it done. That single moment is what attracted the majority of his support base because no political or party drone would be that honest.

It's not, that is exactly what happened. Rural voters don't usually vote and the disparity is so large that Hillary didn't even bother campaigning for them. They weren't on anyone's radar, nobody asked them, and the few who did ask didn't get a reply. Thus everyone's sudden "shock" moment. Rural America has suffered greatly from the economic downturn and all the recovery has gone into the cities which were effected the least. The voters living in those area's are angry that politicians, on both sides, refuse to acknowledge them or give assistance. All the liberal economic assistance plans were exclusive to Urban area's, all the Republicans rhetoric was also towards urban area's, because "that's where the voters are".

He smashed the second one, and it was during the second one where he had that grand moment you're talking about.

Bill Clinton stuck a cigar in an interns vagina.

he's a moderate centrist

The feelz bro, the feelz

This is completely false and it's absurd that people are lapping up your lies like usual.

Unless you mean how it really is without doing propaganda, but who the *** knows, probably not even himself.

Actually, compared to everyone else in American politics, he is more centrist than most of the other candidates.

Just because anyone who is right of you is considered extreme in your viewpoint doesn't mean that everyone else shares that same viewpoint.

(Newser) – If the first 48 hours of the Trump administration are anything to go by, it's going to be a testy four years between the White House and the Fourth Estate. Following Saturday night's press conference in which press secretary Sean Spicer lambasted media reports about the size of inauguration crowds, Kellyanne Conway took to Chuck Todd's Meet the Press, defending Spicer's comments. How the feisty interview went down, per Business Insider:

Conway: "I don't think ultimately presidents are judged by crowd sizes. They're judged by their accomplishments."
Todd: "You make a reasonable and rational case for why crowd sizes don't matter. You did not answer the question. Why put him out there for the very first time to utter a provable falsehood?"

Conway: "If we're going to keep referring to our press secretary in those types of terms, we're going to have to rethink our relationship here."
Todd: "You did not answer the question of why the president asked the White House press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood. Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office on day one."
Conway: "No it doesn't, do be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. You're saying it's a falsehood, and Sean Spicer, our press secretary is giving alternative facts to that."
Todd: "Wait a minute, alternative facts? Alternative facts—four of the five facts he uttered are not true. Alternative facts are not facts—they're falsehoods."

Just because anyone who is right of you is considered extreme in your viewpoint doesn't mean that everyone else shares that same viewpoint.

Chuck Todd, Conway Throw Down Over 'Alternative Facts'
'Alternative facts are not facts—they're falsehoods'