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By fonewear 2017-02-09 17:37:48  
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Saddest statistic in the known universe:

One-third of Americans unaware ObamaCare, ACA are the same
The Hill

The sad details:

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... The figure comes from a new poll by Morning Consult that found 35 percent of Americans do not know ObamaCare is another label — made popular by the GOP — used to describe the Affordable Care Act, enacted under former President Barack Obama in 2010.

About 17 percent of Americans polled thought they were two different laws, and 18 percent said the didn't know whether they were the same policy or two different things....

Sixty-one percent said they knew that some Americans would lose Medicaid and health insurance coverage if the law were repealed with no replacement. But 45 percent of those polled did not know the law may be repealed soon....
I don't care if you are for it or against it, its depressing that our fellow countrymen are so poorly informed.

Welcome to my world !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-09 17:39:00  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
"An employee shall not use his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of any product, service, or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives."

That's weird. When I search for a general job description of "politician", it says the following:

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"A government employee who uses his public office for his own private gain, for the endorsement of lobbied products, services, and enterprises, and for the private gain of friends, relatives."

Yea except she's not a politician just an employee of one. Making her a "government worker"... which we all know aren't exactly the cream of the crop.
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-02-09 17:59:10  
Court of appeals rules against the travel ban again. EO smarter, not harder, people.
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By fonewear 2017-02-09 18:32:31  
I fondly recall the first time Mrs. Venom and I met. It was league night at our local bowling alley. I was waiting for our team, The Pin Worms, to get a lane. Mrs. Venom's team, The Alley Cats had just finished up, and she was returning her rental shoes at the counter where I was standing. I don't know if it was the scent of Dr. Scholl's foot powder, or the aroma of the Jack and colas she had been drinking, but there was a tingling sensation in my loins I had never experienced. To my surprise, she waited to introduce herself to me, after I finished bowling. Through her bloodshot eyes, I could see her desire for me, and when she lifted me up off my feet and slung me over her shoulder, and carried me through the parking lot to her lifted 1987 lifted F250, I knew I had met the woman of my dreams. That night in her single wide was a night I will always remember. 2 weeks later we wed at the local gun emporium and beauty salon. Looking back, I guess we were deplorables before deplorables became so popular. 30 years, 30 pounds, and 30 hair shades later, she's still the apple of my eye.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-02-09 18:51:44  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Court of appeals rules against the travel ban again. EO smarter, not harder, people.

The most overturned activist panel appeals court in the nation rules against a completely legal Trump EO? Color me shocked.
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By fonewear 2017-02-09 19:07:58  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Court of appeals rules against the travel ban again. EO smarter, not harder, people.

That court is totally overrated ! Supreme Court is where it's at !
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By fonewear 2017-02-09 19:09:00  
I'm going to ask Trump if I can tweet for him. I have the right mix of psychosis and alcoholism to do the job.
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By Blazed1979 2017-02-09 19:50:05  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
I don't care if you are for it or against it, its depressing that our fellow countrymen are so poorly informed infromed.
ugh... lets thank cracker jacks for all the booty and rich stuff while we're at it...
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2017-02-09 21:25:48  
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 4 hours ago

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-02-09 21:53:04  
first president to ALL CAPS
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By Viciouss 2017-02-09 21:55:10  
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Court of appeals rules against the travel ban again. EO smarter, not harder, people.

Like I said he should just rescind it, rewrite it so its legal, and reissue it. Case closed. But they aren't smart enough to do that, everything has to be a fight with Trump.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-09 21:59:03  
And Conway once again gives us a negative headline for the weekend. She is trending downwards, first it was just making ***up now its actually committing crimes. Republicans in Congress are calling for an investigation, saying a "consultation" is not good enough. And of course, no apology from Conway.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-02-09 22:35:44  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
On a related note, it looks like I'm going to be forced to move to Connecticut later this year. I expect some culture shock....
omg we can finally get a beer
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-02-09 22:42:37  
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
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How about that Kellyanne Conway getting into some ethical hot water this morning?
Context of what she said? It's not like googling Kellyanne Conway gaffe gives a narrow return of results.
She offhandedly promoted Ivanka Trump's brand, although not really (using it as an example on the recent Nordstrom boycott stupidity).
more facts I don't like
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By Viciouss 2017-02-09 22:43:23  
More lies from nausi and KN.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-02-09 22:43:54  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Court of appeals rules against the travel ban again. EO smarter, not harder, people.

The most overturned activist panel appeals court in the nation rules against a completely legal Trump EO? Color me shocked.
Time to disband the 9th circuit.

Or impeach all the obama/clinton/bush appointees
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-02-09 22:46:02  
Guess who trusts trump?

More people than trust the media.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-09 22:56:01  
Wow Trump can't even get a majority of people to consider him truthful in a conservative poll. Hard times.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-10 08:32:14  
Congress Investigates Federal Climate Study After Whistleblower Exposes Fake Science

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Congress is ramping up its investigation into a key climate study, now under further scrutiny after a federal whistleblower raised more questions about it this week. The scandal some are referring to as “Climategate Two” (you can learn about the first Climategate here) is quickly escalating after Dr. John Bates, a former top scientist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), exposed how an ex-colleague mishandled a report on global warming right before a major international climate conference in 2015.

House Science Committee Chairman Lamar Smith said during a Tuesday hearing that NOAA “has deceived the American people by falsifying data to justify a partisan agenda.” He will now push for all documents related to the climate study, materials he requested via subpoena in 2015 after Obama Administration officials refused to disclose them.

What Bates Revealed About a Famous Climate Study

The explosive allegations from Dr. Bates were detailed in the Daily Mail and on the scientific blog, Climate, Etc. on February 5. Bates accuses Tom Karl, former director of the NOAA office responsible for climate data, of manipulating temperature readings, failing to archive data, and ignoring agency protocols to rush publishing his study that debunked the well-known pause in global warming at the beginning of this century.

At the time, climate activists were in a panic because the premier scientific body in charge of climate science—the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)—admitted the rise in global temperatures had basically stalled from 1998 to 2012. This bombshell was included in the IPCC’s 2013 report, which would serve as the main primer leading up to the United Nations’ Climate Conference in Paris two years later.

World leaders were poised to obligate their countries (er, taxpayers) into paying hundreds of billions to ease climate change. The inconvenient truth that plenty of evidence showed the planet was not significantly warming would be hard to climatesplain away. To give the climate leaders a big assist, Karl worked with a team of scientists to prove the pause didn’t happen, and claim global temperatures were rising just as fast as they had been at the end of the twentieth century.

Karl specifically cites the IPCC report in the introduction of his paper published in Science in June 2015, a few months before the Paris conference. Under the headline, “Walking back talk of the end of warming,” the authors said, “Here, we present an updated global surface temperature analysis that reveals that global trends are higher than those reported by the IPCC. These results do not support the notion of a slowdown in the increase in global surface temperatures.”

The paper concludes that “the IPCCs statement is no longer valid.” In other words: settled.

The Climate Change Study Was Rigged

But Bates says the researchers “put a thumb on the scale” to reach their conclusions. He reveals other alarming details, like how the computer used to process the data suffered a complete failure. Chairman Smith responded immediately to Bates’s allegations, thanking him for “exposing the previous administration’s efforts to push their costly climate agenda at the expense of scientific integrity.”

Shortly after Bates’ exposé was posted, climate skeptics and conservative outlets began reporting on it—including Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Times (my piece in NRO is here). And of course it wasn’t long before climate activists and their media propagandists seized on Bates, attacking his credibility and motives while insisting Karl’s report was indeed credible and backed up by other scientists.

True to form, the same media that helped promote Karl’s study before the Paris climate conference overlooked key parts of Bates’s account. Neither the Washington Post, New York Times, nor the Associated Press mentioned IPCC as the source for the global warming pause, the main reason for Karl’s rebuke. Nor did they mention Bates’ shocking claim that the computer used to process the data had crashed.

Media Rushes to Defend Karl’s Study

Other lowlights from that group include the following. New York Times headline: “No Data Manipulation in 2015 Climate Study, Researchers Say.” Reporter Henry Fountain starts by smearing the Daily Mail reporter who wrote Bates’ exposé, excusing away the accusations and claiming the global warming pause became a “cause célèbre among climate change denialists.” Fountain then cites a few scientists who support Karl and finishes up insisting the study had no impact on the Paris accord.

Associated Press headline: “Major Global Warming Study Again Questioned, Again Defended.” Reporter Seth Borenstein referred to the scandal as “bickering,” a “kerfuffle,” and a mere “hubbub” about data management and storage.

Washington Post headline: “As the Planet Warms, Doubters Launch a New Attack on a Famous Climate Change Study.” Do you really need anything after that? Reporter Chelsea Harvey refutes every point of Bates’s account and cites “multiple” scientists who support the Karl study. (Bates said in his blogpost he first offered his story to the Washington Post last year and they declined. Shocker.)

The Media Weren’t The Only Study Apologists

The media weren’t the only Karl study apologists. Rush Holt, the head of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) which publishes Science, testified at Smith’s hearing on Tuesday. Holt brushed off the allegations—this was about 48 hours after the article posted, basically no time to check the veracity—calling it an “internal dispute” and concluding it’s “not the making of a big scandal.” Another committee member warned Holt to withhold judgement on the matter until the matter was fully investigated.

There’s a little (a lot?) of irony to this whole affair. The very same scientific community and liberal media outlets that have been hysterical since November 8, claiming the Trump Administration will silence scientists and have a chilling effect on science, are the very same people now attacking one of their own for speaking up. Chalk this up as one more example of liberal hypocrisy, exposed thanks to Donald Trump.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-10 08:35:05  
Too partisan to read.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-10 08:35:44  
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Too partisan to read.
Why yes, yes you are.
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By fonewear 2017-02-10 08:43:00  
I"m not saying climate change isn't real...I'm saying bring on the global warming.

We have too many damn polar bears as it is !
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By fonewear 2017-02-10 08:46:24  
What if and this is big if...we go into a global cooling will everyone be outraged then ? Will you go to the store and stock up on jackets and boots. How can we possibly deal with the cool temperatures. I'm cold just thinking about it !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-10 08:47:13  
While there's nothing wrong with making the environment cleaner, it doesn't help your cause by outright lying about how dirty the environment is.

For all we know, what little we have done could be enough to save the world, but some people still demand that we do more for little to no effect.

All in all, our efforts are basically wasted if there's still some countries, like China, that absolutely refuses to clean up their environment.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-10 08:47:38  
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I'm cold just thinking about it !
Turn on the heater then.
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By fonewear 2017-02-10 08:48:39  
What if all the stuff we try to do to stop global warming actually worsens it ? Have we planned for that... I doubt it !
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By fonewear 2017-02-10 08:49:35  
I mean the notion that we are so damn important in the world seems ridiculous. The earth has been around for billions of years and all of the sudden every day is the apocalypse. It's pretty laughable.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-10 08:49:56  
fonewear said: »
What if all the stuff we try to do to stop global warming actually worsens it ? Have we planned for that... I doubt it !
They will just blame Bush/Reagan/Trump/men/whites/straights/<insert Republican in power>/<insert whatever SJWs are outraged at the moment>
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