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By Viciouss 2017-02-21 20:34:46  
Typing out long winded posts doesn't qualify as "backing up opinions and assertions." More words don't mean more facts. Very rarely will you find any actual factual information in those diatribes, its just attacking a nonexistent "Global Progressive Movement."

In other words, Saevel never backs up anything he says, and nothing he posts is beyond anyone's understanding, its just not worth anyone's time.

But your little pyscho analysis was fun while it lasted.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-21 20:42:21  
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The point is, we as a society have decided that children under the age of 16/17/18 etc. are, generally, unable to fully understand the ramifications of sex and are therefore unable to legally consent to it. Does that mean we all think when someone turns 16/17/18, a magical fairy descends from the heavens, waves a magic wand, and grants them the ability to consent? No. Does that mean we all think that no 15-year-old is capable of consenting? No. But *we have to draw the line somewhere*. Laws have to apply to everyone equally, or else there is no point to having laws at all. We definitely don't want to say 6-year-olds can consent, but we don't want to say a normal, able-minded 32-year-old can't.

You obviously didn't watch the original video or even read the transcriptions. You just heard what the liberal media said and believed it all. Now your incapable of admitting it.

If you had actually done your homework then you'd know he's agreeing with you. He mentions that he believes current laws are about right and that there does need to be a line. You just stated the same thing he did. Guess that makes you a pedophile too.

He did make a point that consent is a bit murky and it's feasible that someone at a younger age could give consent. He then spoke about his own experiences, which is where he goes into his childhood experiences. He was speaking in a theoretical sense about a subject that's very sensitive to people.

But hey none of that mattered, he's part of the conservative political faction and a public figure to boot. That makes him not a human and all hands on deck to eliminate him using and and all methods available. The fact that he's gotten real child predators convicted doesn't matter, the fact that he publicly supports prosecution and going after child predators, totally irrelevant. He's not a member of The Faith, worse he criticizes the high priests of The Faith, and for those heinous crimes he must be punished by all good Progressive Ideologues.

I've said this for years, since the conservatives were looking for any reason to bash Obama, if your going to hate on someone then hate on something they actually did and not a fantasy version of them.


My post had two points. One which is the minor paragraph regarding Milo's situation the other was just generalizing about pedophilia.

I think the point you were trying to make about 'progressives" attacking him for being a victim of sexual abuse would be more "biting" if you had analogized it to how rape victims in rural areas where there is a lucrative football program are victimized if the suspect is also a football player.

But this attack is multi-faceted and not just the liberal media, the attack originated from the conservative bloc not the liberal one. Media just picked up on it because it was "sensational" and his name was trending thanks to Berkley and his recent Bill Maher appearance.

However there are those of us who are familiar with Milo's antics and took special joy in the irony of his plea today for understanding and acceptance, and being misunderstood. Given that was the exact same action he was known to attack people for doing.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-21 20:44:13  
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Typing out long winded posts doesn't qualify as "backing up opinions and assertions." More words don't mean more facts. Very rarely will you find any actual factual information in those diatribes, its just attacking a nonexistent "Global Progressive Movement."

In other words, Saevel never backs up anything he says, and nothing he posts is beyond anyone's understanding, its just not worth anyone's time.

But your little pyscho analysis was fun while it lasted.
And yet, with this post, you have proven everything I stated.

Thanks.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-21 20:46:22  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
And yet, with this post, you have proven everything I stated.

Thanks.

So? Think it means anything? Think I care? Think anything is gonna happen?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-21 20:54:29  
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And yet, with this post, you have proven everything I stated.

Thanks.

So? Think it means anything? Think I care? Think anything is gonna happen?
Other than the fact that I have a better grasp of facts and reality than you do, no, nothing is going to happen.

Thanks for confirming it too.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-21 21:04:09  
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What's really *** up is people like Chanti and the wild dogs that make up the liberal religion viciously attacking someone who was an actual sexual abuse victim in a deliberately malicious character assassination....
Prove that from my quotes.

I distinctly separated illegal from intergenerational. And, you know, he said he liked it, wanted it, learned and grew from it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-21 21:11:46  
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What's really *** up is people like Chanti and the wild dogs that make up the liberal religion viciously attacking someone who was an actual sexual abuse victim in a deliberately malicious character assassination....
Prove that from my quotes.

I distinctly separated illegal from intergenerational. And, you know, he said he liked it, wanted it, learned and grew from it.
You have been on the attack since the news broke out.

It's pretty obvious that you wanted this to happen. I mean, you were being giddy like a school girl.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-21 21:15:03  
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And yet, with this post, you have proven everything I stated.

Thanks.

So? Think it means anything? Think I care? Think anything is gonna happen?
Other than the fact that I have a better grasp of facts and reality than you do, no, nothing is going to happen.

Thanks for confirming it too.

Well now that you have gotten that personal belief all squared away, hopefully we can get on to an actual topic.

But I doubt it, all you guys want to do is talk about anything other than the daily Trump disaster, and when we do manage to land on it, all you can manage is failed comparisons to Obama.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-21 21:27:13  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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What's really *** up is people like Chanti and the wild dogs that make up the liberal religion viciously attacking someone who was an actual sexual abuse victim in a deliberately malicious character assassination....
Prove that from my quotes.

I distinctly separated illegal from intergenerational. And, you know, he said he liked it, wanted it, learned and grew from it.
You have been on the attack since the news broke out.

It's pretty obvious that you wanted this to happen. I mean, you were being giddy like a school girl.
I like a good show. And this has been a very good show. Wanted? No, Hoped for? Not in my wildest dreams. I am merely a REALLY amused spectator.

Go over my posts on this subject. I quote news, I differentiate, I do not unconditionally denigrate. And seeing an unrepentant antisemite (yes he hates all us Semites, broad definition) hoist by his own petard, delighted.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-02-21 21:35:05  
BTW age of consent in WA is REALLY flexible. We do it by age groups.

21+, 18 - 21, 15 - 17, 13 - 14.One up or one down is OK, 2 is statutory rape. 12 and under is verboten. I may be slightly off on the exact splits for the under 18s.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-21 21:36:55  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
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What's really *** up is people like Chanti and the wild dogs that make up the liberal religion viciously attacking someone who was an actual sexual abuse victim in a deliberately malicious character assassination....
Prove that from my quotes.

I distinctly separated illegal from intergenerational. And, you know, he said he liked it, wanted it, learned and grew from it.
You have been on the attack since the news broke out.

It's pretty obvious that you wanted this to happen. I mean, you were being giddy like a school girl.
I like a good show. And this has been a very good show. Wanted? No, Hoped for? Not in my wildest dreams. I am merely a REALLY amused spectator.

Go over my posts on this subject. I quote news, I differentiate, I do not unconditionally denigrate. And seeing an unrepentant antisemite (yes he hates all us Semites, broad definition) hoist by his own petard, delighted.
That's fair. I'm just basing my thoughts on what you typed.

As for the Anti-Semite part, that was unknown to me. Then again, I don't follow him at all. All I know of him is from when Berkeley protested against him. And that he is a very aggressive speaker.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-21 21:37:59  
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But I doubt it, all you guys want to do is talk about anything other than the daily Trump disaster
Wait, isn't that what you do?

Personally, I don't care what Trump tweeted. You seem to, though, as you comment on it quite often.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-21 21:44:11  
I think Drac is the one that provides the daily Trump tweets?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-02-21 21:54:24  
Milo ain't gone, just a setback. The media didn't make him and they can't break him.

Too bad the libs won't persecute George Takei with the same ferocity for saying worse.
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 21:54:46  
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Oh, you two.

You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie
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By Viciouss 2017-02-21 21:59:14  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Milo ain't gone, just a setback. The media didn't make him and they can't break him.

Too bad the libs won't persecute George Takei with the same ferocity for saying worse.

Oh? What did Takei say that offended you?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-21 22:08:22  
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Too bad the libs won't persecute George Takei with the same ferocity for saying worse.

Are we really trying to equivocate a teenage camp counselor to a 32yr old priest in this scenario? We're talking 4-5yrs and 26yr difference in age.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-21 22:09:17  
*19yr difference not 26..
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-21 22:26:03  
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You and me both...
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 22:29:44  
Is that you John Wayne is this me ?
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 22:33:04  
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You said it man no one *** with the Jesus !
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 22:35:15  
What's a pederast ?

Shut the *** up, Donny !
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 22:41:39  
Nihilists! *** me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 22:46:29  
Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't drive a car, I don't *** ride in a car, I don't handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as *** *don't *** roll*!
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-21 22:46:45  
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Zero!
This aggression will not stand, man
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