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High End Sets Advice/Suggestions/Ideas/LUA
Sakpata's Gauntlets for Torcleaver???
Asura.Toralin said: » Sakpata's Gauntlets for Torcleaver??? Head Looks really good on paper.
Hands look close on paper. Odyssean gets 7% wsdmg, 5 scdmg and 34 vit with easy to get augments. They go up to 12% wsdmg, 5 scdmg, 44 vit with DM augments. I already made a toggle in my GS for full Sakpata WSing to keep meva high. I am seeing DRK totally annihilate stuff on Oddy-3 segement farming with SV Minuet+chaos with popping in some PDL+ pieces stinger helm+1 and hands. He is 1-shotting Nostros with Torcleaver
The hands are a tougher sell for me for Torcleaver, I have a 15 vit 4wsd aug and I'm not totally convinced Sakpata hands will beat that. They may be close enough that the defensive benefits outweigh the damage gap though.
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PDL requires capping to compete as well. While not unusual for DRK to be over the att cap it has to be a consideration.
I'm going to throw the head in my set to replace Stinger and going to leave my hands as Valorous. (wsdmg10)
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Taint said: » PDL requires capping to compete as well. While not unusual for DRK to be over the att cap it has to be a consideration. I'm going to throw the head in my set to replace Stinger and going to leave my hands as Valorous. (wsdmg10) I have 10 wsd odyssean dm aug on the hands but no other stats aside from cure potency 1 which was a big downer for me. Literally any acc and or attack I’d of been happy but oseem is a real ball buster.
Fenrir.Skarwind said: » bombsdiggity said: » Leviathan.Celebrindal said: » Asura.Nuance said: » If you’re just interested in empyrean situations and riding the AM3 and absolutely don’t care about the stp then yeah sure I guess. You’d still miss out on the hasso haste but LR cool down is t awful I suppose. Wish we could full time it Its not so much that I'm "just interested in empyrean situations"- its more knowing that the DA from /war subjob will be more of a hindrance to a Liberator build even before this gear, and that doesn't change; that Apocalypse can compensate for probably the largest benefit /sam brings in JA Haste. I'm sure if I used my Anguta more there would be a discussion there, as well. Empyreans do stick out though, of course, due to the synergy between a high attack job in DRK, the occasional triple damage proc from Caladbolg/Redemption, the extreme overflow of +PDL on this new set, and the unique DA damage augment to the headpiece all working together to push white damage above weaponskills in importance- and at what point it starts to win. I mean. Do what makes you happy, but for me personally i spend so much time attack capped that warcry and berserk would do nothing for me. /sam4lyf If attack is capped and you aren't subbing SAM, /DRG is pretty solid isn't it? solid second place imo DRK destroys Odyssey but my main issue is the versatility of weapon types, since some mobs resist slashing
bombsdiggity said: » Fenrir.Skarwind said: » bombsdiggity said: » Leviathan.Celebrindal said: » Asura.Nuance said: » If you’re just interested in empyrean situations and riding the AM3 and absolutely don’t care about the stp then yeah sure I guess. You’d still miss out on the hasso haste but LR cool down is t awful I suppose. Wish we could full time it Its not so much that I'm "just interested in empyrean situations"- its more knowing that the DA from /war subjob will be more of a hindrance to a Liberator build even before this gear, and that doesn't change; that Apocalypse can compensate for probably the largest benefit /sam brings in JA Haste. I'm sure if I used my Anguta more there would be a discussion there, as well. Empyreans do stick out though, of course, due to the synergy between a high attack job in DRK, the occasional triple damage proc from Caladbolg/Redemption, the extreme overflow of +PDL on this new set, and the unique DA damage augment to the headpiece all working together to push white damage above weaponskills in importance- and at what point it starts to win. I mean. Do what makes you happy, but for me personally i spend so much time attack capped that warcry and berserk would do nothing for me. /sam4lyf If attack is capped and you aren't subbing SAM, /DRG is pretty solid isn't it? solid second place imo Sylph.Brahmsz said: » bombsdiggity said: » Fenrir.Skarwind said: » bombsdiggity said: » Leviathan.Celebrindal said: » Asura.Nuance said: » If you’re just interested in empyrean situations and riding the AM3 and absolutely don’t care about the stp then yeah sure I guess. You’d still miss out on the hasso haste but LR cool down is t awful I suppose. Wish we could full time it Its not so much that I'm "just interested in empyrean situations"- its more knowing that the DA from /war subjob will be more of a hindrance to a Liberator build even before this gear, and that doesn't change; that Apocalypse can compensate for probably the largest benefit /sam brings in JA Haste. I'm sure if I used my Anguta more there would be a discussion there, as well. Empyreans do stick out though, of course, due to the synergy between a high attack job in DRK, the occasional triple damage proc from Caladbolg/Redemption, the extreme overflow of +PDL on this new set, and the unique DA damage augment to the headpiece all working together to push white damage above weaponskills in importance- and at what point it starts to win. I mean. Do what makes you happy, but for me personally i spend so much time attack capped that warcry and berserk would do nothing for me. /sam4lyf If attack is capped and you aren't subbing SAM, /DRG is pretty solid isn't it? solid second place imo Isn't that drifting a little to close to the cliché DRK? YouTube Video Placeholder Asura.Saevel said: » Sylph.Brahmsz said: » bombsdiggity said: » Fenrir.Skarwind said: » bombsdiggity said: » Leviathan.Celebrindal said: » Asura.Nuance said: » If you’re just interested in empyrean situations and riding the AM3 and absolutely don’t care about the stp then yeah sure I guess. You’d still miss out on the hasso haste but LR cool down is t awful I suppose. Wish we could full time it Its not so much that I'm "just interested in empyrean situations"- its more knowing that the DA from /war subjob will be more of a hindrance to a Liberator build even before this gear, and that doesn't change; that Apocalypse can compensate for probably the largest benefit /sam brings in JA Haste. I'm sure if I used my Anguta more there would be a discussion there, as well. Empyreans do stick out though, of course, due to the synergy between a high attack job in DRK, the occasional triple damage proc from Caladbolg/Redemption, the extreme overflow of +PDL on this new set, and the unique DA damage augment to the headpiece all working together to push white damage above weaponskills in importance- and at what point it starts to win. I mean. Do what makes you happy, but for me personally i spend so much time attack capped that warcry and berserk would do nothing for me. /sam4lyf If attack is capped and you aren't subbing SAM, /DRG is pretty solid isn't it? solid second place imo Isn't that drifting a little to close to the cliché DRK? YouTube Video Placeholder Yes, and that's what makes me happy. I really want to get more use out of the Sakpata set.
As it is I'm having trouble with its low accuracy, and can only fit it piecemeal into my sets. I would love to use it for Insurgency for instance, but Sakpata gear is a whopping 74 accuracy behind even my lowest accuracy set. Now, I can see that with RP each piece in the set can get up to +15 accuracy. How far in to feeding this set do we have to go in order to start getting accuracy augments? That question asked, how do we even start getting RP on them? I've got all wins leading up to and including Kalunga, but I have yet to finish clearing all the wave3 NMs. When I tried fighting Kalunga a second time I couldn't raise the vengeance on it, what gives? Asura.Mims said: » I really want to get more use out of the Sakpata set. As it is I'm having trouble with its low accuracy, and can only fit it piecemeal into my sets. I would love to use it for Insurgency for instance, but Sakpata gear is a whopping 74 accuracy behind even my lowest accuracy set. Now, I can see that with RP each piece in the set can get up to +15 accuracy. How far in to feeding this set do we have to go in order to start getting accuracy augments? That question asked, how do we even start getting RP on them? I've got all wins leading up to and including Kalunga, but I have yet to finish clearing all the wave3 NMs. When I tried fighting Kalunga a second time I couldn't raise the vengeance on it, what gives? Asura.Mims said: » I really want to get more use out of the Sakpata set. As it is I'm having trouble with its low accuracy, and can only fit it piecemeal into my sets. I would love to use it for Insurgency for instance, but Sakpata gear is a whopping 74 accuracy behind even my lowest accuracy set. Now, I can see that with RP each piece in the set can get up to +15 accuracy. How far in to feeding this set do we have to go in order to start getting accuracy augments? That question asked, how do we even start getting RP on them? I've got all wins leading up to and including Kalunga, but I have yet to finish clearing all the wave3 NMs. When I tried fighting Kalunga a second time I couldn't raise the vengeance on it, what gives? The general belief is that they'll create a better way to get RP in the future, for now it's heavily time gated behind spamming the T3 fights at higher difficulty. Think old school Mythic type time gates. My new idle set. Any suggestions? *All sets assume R15 unity gear.
Sitting at -51% PDT, -31% MDT, -30% DT with 3618 base HP and a lot of magic evasion. Sanare earring on the right. *Granted this is when they fix Sakpata cuisses' DT bug.  ____________________________________________ Edit: Realized I was under-capped on Haste and found a better option. This is the new Hybrid/DT set I made last night. That's a Cessance Earring in the left ear. I could've used Balder +1 for QA+1, but DA+3 is identical amount of hits and I wanted more Acc as I find base Sakpata's somewhat lacking. Sailfi Belt +1 on the waist and Ignominy flanchard +3 as Legs. Has 40-STP (more than Hybrid set on the first page) and adds a ton of PDL, Def, M.Eva, multi-attack. My friend pointed out if you have the Haste +1% momento you could ride 5/5 Sakpata's and swap Moonlight for Niqmaddu, but I'm a lazy ***and that would drop around ~28 Acc and 80HP for a gain of ~6hits/100 and 7PDL. Sitting at 2532HP, 43% DA, 2% TA, 33% PDL, 40-STP:  _____________________________________________ This is my new DT Torcleaver/Attack capped Torcleaver set. Left ring is Regal ring. Right ring could be swapped (Gel. Ring+1?), but I made the set to keep some DT and also I figured I could use the Acc. Nothing worse than a missed Torcleaver:  Any suggestions/feedback are welcome. I don't use spreadsheets. I eyeball everything and know the minimum STp/Acc needed to be effective. Quote: My friend pointed out if you have the Haste +1% momento This was shown on the last few pages to almost certainly be magic haste.
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Asura.Friedrik said: » Quote: My friend pointed out if you have the Haste +1% momento This was shown on the last few pages to almost certainly be magic haste. I have engraved belt in my idle set, and for torcleaver I don't think I would replace Sulevia's leggings with sakpata. DRK can't wear Engraved Belt. Sylph.Brahmsz said: » DRK can't wear Engraved Belt. Word, it's too early for me and I've had my head up WAR's butt for too long since the update. The rest remains I don't really see the point of 3600 hp in idle when you have 2000 in tp. It gives nothing unless you cure yourself after switching to idle. Its also very problematic in something like Odyssey, because it will blood aggro all the time, because you drops to yellow hp every time you go from engaged to idle.
Sylph.Brahmsz said: » DRK can't wear Engraved Belt. Asklepian belt is what I use
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My Idle set, refresh+2 on Valorous:
ItemSet 378325 My max HP set is only used for Dread spikes and if I'm weak.
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Asura.Friedrik said: » I messed around a bit on DRK tonight after being on WAR for nearly the entire time since the update. I took the Calad 6-hit build from the first page, went 5/5 Sakpata then added *Blank spaces are Sakpata's pieces Anyone with a Redemption happen to check how much the spatula armor increased their auto attacks with AM3 up? Playing with Sakpata and Caladbolg sets. Sakpata hands are really good as you rank up but I made these assuming no STP on them.
Caladbolg 6 hit DT ItemSet 364450 Caladbolg 5 hit DT ItemSet 378349 Torcleavor ItemSet 365099
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The problem with those sets is accuracy
6hit has 1121 5hit 1137 Torc has 1095 and thats for R20 on all pieces, so 25 acc less with R0. This is why I think Sakpata really has better synergy with Apocalypse, but sets that I would suggest to use to improve acc on those with Caladbolg would be this: ItemSet 362873 This set has far better DT and MEVA and 1151 acc at Rank 20 and only does 2% damage less ItemSet 378351 This set has 1174 acc assuming everything at rank 20 and is actually higher DPS according to sheet.
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I base all my sets around 1100. Schere sucks with GS in my experience, I don't use a lot of MP on DRK but 0 doesn't work well.
Thank you for contributing.
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Taint said: » I base all my sets around 1100. Schere sucks with GS in my experience, I don't use a lot of MP on DRK but 0 doesn't work well. Yeah but then you probably have TP sets with higher acc and its a problem with Sakpata. Instead of Schere you can use Cessance. Also DT set are usually used on higher difficulty targets and those also usually have higher acc requirement. Not to mention in something like Gaol, you also lose subjob, which is another drop of accuracy you normally have. Taint said: » I base all my sets around 1100 Code 1037 / 1029 1121 / 1113 1211 / 1203 1302 / 1294 1392 / 1384 Ramuh.Austar said: » Taint said: » I base all my sets around 1100 Code 1037 / 1029 1121 / 1113 1211 / 1203 1302 / 1294 1392 / 1384 Thats great info. And to clarify my sets start at 1100ish and go up from there. I'll probably toggle on Simon's set for mid acc. A couple jobs have lower ACC sets but for specific reasons. Thanks all for contributing.
As for idle HP, I have two sets. That one is more or less for pulling mobs. I have 3 chars with near-BiS whm gear so I’m always capped on HP when idle because one is always on whm. Could anyone tell where my sets fell compared to the others posted? Mine seem to have more accuracy and survivability. I’d personally never use schere earring on GS and I feel dedition is too much of a loss with sakpatas gear. After reviewing further I’d probably swap my torcleaver waist out to sailfi +1 or Iosekha+1. *I should also note I’m considering r0 gear as I feel most people (including myself) won’t be ranking up quickly/at all for a while. |
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