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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 10:18:29
Also one year of tax returns doesn't mean anything, its just a distraction that the Dems aren't falling for.
Well, it's still the top news on Google and parts of the MSM are finding ways to twist the news into anti-Trump headlines. Clearly somebody is falling for it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 10:19:43
Still funny to see Saudi Arabia omitted from the travel ban. You have evidence that Saudi Arabia is sponsoring terrorist groups?
Besides, you seem to forget that this list was made by the Obama Admin.....
Also one year of tax returns doesn't mean anything, its just a distraction that the Dems aren't falling for. That the dems themselves produced, and produced from the Wall Street Journal and the NJ/FL government in regards to Trump's casinos.
But hey, breaking news, they got public information, and it took them a year (and in the NJ/FL government's case, 10 years) to discover it.
Funny how you guys want to focus on that and not the failing agenda. Just because you want to believe it to be true doesn't make it true.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 10:22:07
There is so much wrong with this article. No wonder this is now considered facts I don't like.
Its not even considered news, its an opinion ... You know the big bolded word at the beginning of the article ... Wait, are you saying he isn't part of the MSM? You know, the guy who revealed Trump's tax return yesterday.
You know, the so-called "gatekeepers of the happenings of the world" who are supposed to report the news? I mean, if they can't even get extremely simple tax code correct, what makes you think they can get anything else right?
All it would take is a little research, hell, even asking a CPA before publishing their opinion would make them look less like a jackass.
This is spreading false information. And you are accepting that because you don't know better, but have a blind trust in somebody who is, frankly, a complete idiot. And proven to be a complete idiot.
Im just saying its not actually news and clearly labelled to be the opinion of 1 person.
Really funny the part where you complain about spreading false information while defending whatever Trump says. It's by the guy who released Trump's tax return. This is the guy everyone is (supposedly) listening to up until they released the big, fat, nothingburger.
As for defending Trump. Well, prove it.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 10:24:53
very good response, helps encourage not bothering to reply to your posts in the future so it's a win/win for both of us. Look, you just directly called me having an ill-advised superiority complex. And you think I'm not going to be pissed by that?
Even with your level of passive aggressive behavior, that still went too far. So, henceforth:
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By Viciouss 2017-03-15 10:34:37
Still funny to see Saudi Arabia omitted from the travel ban. You have evidence that Saudi Arabia is sponsoring terrorist groups?
Is this a serious question? The Saudi's are probably the biggest sponsors of Islamic terrorism in the world, and show no signs of slowing down.
We will just use wiki:
Quote: While Saudi Arabia is often a secondary source of funds and support for terror movements who can find more motivated and ideologically invested benefactors (e.g. Qatar), Saudi Arabia arguably remains the most prolific sponsor of international Islamist terrorism, allegedly supporting groups as disparate as the Afghanistan Taliban, Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and the Al-Nusra Front.[94]
Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[95] which forms the ideological basis of terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS and others. Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide, according to Hillary Clinton.[96] According to a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state, "Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups."[97]
The violence in Afghanistan and Pakistan is partly bankrolled by wealthy, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them.[96] Three other Arab countries which are listed as sources of militant money are Qatar, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates, all neighbors of Saudi Arabia. Taliban and their militant partners the Haqqani network earn "significant funds" through UAE-based businesses. Kuwait is described as a "source of funds and a key transit point" for al-Qaida and other militant groups.[96][98] The Pakistani militant outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks, used a Saudi-based front company to fund its activities in 2005.[96][99] According to studies, most of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudis.[100][101][102] 15 of the 19 hijackers of the four airliners who were responsible for 9/11 originated from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.[103] Osama bin Laden was born and educated in Saudi Arabia.
We pointed this out the first time Trump issued the ban.
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 10:37:18
Yes and the POTUS has been spreading false information, the guy the entire world is listening to.
Burden of proof falls on the congress apparently so ask them.
So far the biggest source of facts I don't like has been Trump and the WH.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 10:48:18
Still funny to see Saudi Arabia omitted from the travel ban. You have evidence that Saudi Arabia is sponsoring terrorist groups?
Is this a serious question? The Saudi's are probably the biggest sponsors of Islamic terrorism in the world, and show no signs of slowing down.
We will just use wiki:
Quote: While Saudi Arabia is often a secondary source of funds and support for terror movements who can find more motivated and ideologically invested benefactors (e.g. Qatar), Saudi Arabia arguably remains the most prolific sponsor of international Islamist terrorism, allegedly supporting groups as disparate as the Afghanistan Taliban, Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and the Al-Nusra Front.[94]
Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[95] which forms the ideological basis of terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS and others. Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide, according to Hillary Clinton.[96] According to a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state, "Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups."[97]
The violence in Afghanistan and Pakistan is partly bankrolled by wealthy, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them.[96] Three other Arab countries which are listed as sources of militant money are Qatar, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates, all neighbors of Saudi Arabia. Taliban and their militant partners the Haqqani network earn "significant funds" through UAE-based businesses. Kuwait is described as a "source of funds and a key transit point" for al-Qaida and other militant groups.[96][98] The Pakistani militant outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks, used a Saudi-based front company to fund its activities in 2005.[96][99] According to studies, most of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudis.[100][101][102] 15 of the 19 hijackers of the four airliners who were responsible for 9/11 originated from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.[103] Osama bin Laden was born and educated in Saudi Arabia.
We pointed this out the first time Trump issued the ban. Wiki's 4 sources never stated that the nation of Saudi Arabia itself sponsered terrorism (hell, the JASTA bill tried to do exactly the same thing, which is to tie the state to the 9/11 terrorists because they lived in Saudi Arabia).
You are basically placing guilt by association. If that's the case, then, by your reasoning, the US is the greatest benefactor to ISIS because there's some US citizens who go to ISIS, then come back and become "domestic terrorists" coupled with the fact that ISIS was using US weapons (during the Syrian Civil War, and the fallout of pulling out of Iraq during Obama's term).
We can go even further and accuse you of being an ISIS sympathetic. All because you support Obama's policies.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 10:49:09
Yes and the POTUS has been spreading false information, the guy the entire world is listening to.
Burden of proof falls on the congress apparently so ask them.
So far the biggest source of facts I don't like has been Trump and the WH. Hark, how many fake scandals have the media reported since inauguration day?
Aren't we up to 16 now?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 10:58:38
So what's the date for Trump hanging for treason? Going off of what I've read in here and on the news, there are a few dozen offences that have warranted it by now.
I mean, he broke one of the cardinal rules of politics:
"Thou shalt not win an election as a Republican."
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 11:03:36
I know a lot of you are going to have conniption fits over this, so here it goes!
Democrats Seek To Escape Their Whirlpool Of Failure And Fail At That Too
It's got it all. It's a blog! It's an opinion piece! It's satire! And it's heavily sarcastic! It's the quadtrifica of liberal outrage on this website!
Quote: As Donald Trump triumphantly passed his 50th day as the President of the United States Who Is Not Hillary Clinton, Democrat leaders secretly gathered to survey the smoking wreckage of a party that was supposed to dominate America for a generation and ended up only dominating it until midnight on November 8, 2016.
Chuck Schumer approached the podium to address the gathering, his voice a bit hoarse from his recent phone call "thanking" Harry Reid for the Reid Rule.
“We need to be honest,” said Schumer, to widespread laughter. “No, no, I mean with ourselves. Come on, get real – what did you think I was saying? Anyway, we need to take an honest look at the aftermath of the Obama administration and how it left the party weak and…”
“That’s racist!” said Maxine Waters.
“And Islamophobic!” Keith Ellison added.
“Yes, very true. I acknowledge my pallor and phallo privileges,” Schumer replied, placating the two chairs of the Democrat Jewish Outreach Committee. “I mean, of course Obama left our party in terrific shape. We Democrats are stronger than ever. Sure, we lost the White House, but it wasn’t because of Obama or Hillary. It was, uh … the Russians …”
“Plus racism,” said Maxine Waters.
“And Islamophobia,” Keith Ellison added.
“So, so true. And we didn’t lose Congress during the Obama era. We simply became more…elite. More selective. And all those lost seats in the Jesusland states? Maxine, your thoughts?”
“I’ll go with racism,” said Maxine Waters.
“And Islamophobia,” Keith Ellison added.
“We all acknowledge that Obama was a huge success. That fact is beyond debate, like global warming and that men can become women just by wanting to. But now we have to protect his greatest achievement. Nancy, you’ve spearheaded our Save Obamacare working group…Nancy? Nancy! You can watch the squirrels play later.”
Nancy Pelosi turned back from the window and stood up to address the assembled Democrats. “Our working group reviewed the new Republican health plan and we can't find anything wrong with it. It still gives free stuff to people who don’t want to support themselves, so I’m kind of at a loss at how to criticize it.”
“Well, it’s clearly racist,” said Maxine Waters.
“And Islamophobic,” Keith Ellison added.
“Also, cis-het and transphobic,” interjected Martin O’Malley.
“Put your damn shirt back on, Marty,” Chuck Schumer yelled. “I’m not telling you again!”
An elderly, angry-looking woman stood up. “I’m a journalist, and I’m only here as an objective observer,” Andrea Mitchell said. “But it’s obvious that the Trump administration is Hitler reborn and we must work together to destroy it.”
“Hear, hear!” said the CNN contingent as one. Keith Ellison furrowed his brow, whispering to Maxine Waters, “Wait, is she saying Hitler was bad?”
Pelosi piped up again. "It seems very clear that the key to Trump’s success was hats. Many, many hats. The poors love hats! So we need hats too, and they should have a catchy message, one that sums up where we stand as liberals. Trump has red ones that say ‘Make America Great Again,’ but ours should be blue and say ‘America Is A Cesspit Of Racist/Sexist/Transphobic Hate Crimes Thanks To You Jesus-Hugging Idiots, So Submit To Our Commands.’”
They loved the idea, but Pelosi's slogan wouldn't fit; the hats, made in Mexico, would read “Obey Us, Peasants.”
“This innovative headgear will go a long way to reaching the Christian, gun-loving, job-having America-liking dummies we need to convince to vote Democrat in 2020!” said Democratic National Committee Chairbeing Tom Perez. “I can ask Chelsea to wear one and maybe get some favorable press coverage!”
“There’s no ‘maybe’ about it!” replied the CNN contingent as one. “Breaking news, here we come!”
But not everyone was pleased.
“Hats are racist,” said Maxine Waters.
“And Islamophobic,” Keith Ellison added.
“Noted!” Schumer said, “Now, we will hear from our Native American caucus."
“I hate Trump more than I hate John Wayne!” roared Elizabeth Warren. The crowd murmured at her impactful premise.
“Now it’s about to get real,” purred Tom Perez. Warren continued.
“As my people often say, during times of trouble, the Great Bear Spirit inspires braves and squaws alike to resist and…persist.” She winked. The crowd clapped politely.
Chuck Schumer rolled his eyes. How long was Big Chief Talking Bull going to milk that line? Plus, he still resented having to show solidarity by getting a “She Persisted” tramp stamp.
“There’s our 2020 nominee!” said Tom Perez. “An elderly, condescending leftist woman from the Northeast – how can that possibly go wrong?”
“Our path is one of obstruction,” Warren said, gesturing broadly with her dainty professor’s hands. “It worked for the Republicans when they obstructed Obama from doing things that the people did not want done, and it will work for us obstructing things the people do want done…hold on, I think I got that backwards. We should obstruct…uh…hmmm. Wait, I hear the wind calling and I must answer!” Warren darted out of the hall.
Bernie Sanders stood up. “Has anyone seen my shoe? I had my shoe when I came in and now it’s gone. It was a brown shoe and now I can’t find my shoe.”
Nancy Pelosi rose to speak again. “As a San Francisco Democrat, I don’t think anyone can compete with my understanding of the poor people I fly over every weekend. Somehow, we’ve lost touch with our roots among the working class Americans who made America –“
“Racist?” asked Maxine Waters.
“Islamophobic?” Keith Ellison inquired.
"Precisely! But since we’ve ruled out the possibility of secession for now since we don’t believe in guns and not having food, we need to get these knuckle-draggers back on the plantation and the best way to do that is by leveraging the influence and star power of our friends in the world of entertainment and pop culture. And who better connects with normal, working Americans than our next guest? Ladies, gentlemen and otherkin, please welcome Lena Dunham!”
“Hi everyone!” said Dunham, who was wearing a pink knit genital beanie and a $2,000 crop-top designer t-shirt that read, “Your Penis Is A Hate Crime.” “I’d like to start off with a little story about me and my smoking hot sister…”
“Thank you, Lena Dunham!” said Chuck Schumer. “Look Lena, there’s a table full of muffins. You can go have a snack and a chat with Michael Moore. Okay, now we have a surprise for you, a very special guest, the woman who won the popular vote and therefore should be the president except for the Electoral College –“
“Which is racist,” said Maxine Waters.
“And Islamophobic,” Keith Ellison added.
“It sure is! I am proud to introduce President-select Hillary Clinton!” The crowd clapped politely as Hillary staggered to the podium, spilling some of her Crown Royal.
“Donald Trump thinks he’s so smart!” she yelled, putting her tumbler on the podium and gripping it for support. “Well, let me tell you something. I’ll tell all of you something! I won New York and California by a lot! Of votes! A lot of votes!” She took another sip and the clink of the ice cubes echoed across the room. “And Bill, oh, he’s soooo supportive. ‘Oh Hillary, don’t worry, it’s all right.’ But where is he every night? With his tramps! And another thing...”
Schumer approached her smiling, “Well, thank you –“
“Shut up, you lizard!” Hillary shouted, taking another swig. “That shoulda been me in the White House! Me! It was mine! You promised me!” she shrieked, pointing a boney finger at the CNN contingent. The CNN contingent as one hung their heads in shame; Don Lemon mouthed the words "Forgive me."
“And I woulda shown those Trump-voting jerks! I’d have shown all of them! They’d have paid! They’d have to do more than just bake cakes if I was president, and it wouldn’t have just been she-males tinkling around their daughters! But you know why I really lost?”
“Racism?” asked Maxine Waters.
“Islamophobia?” Ellison inquired.
“Yeah, racecars and agoraphobia, but mostly sexism! I’m a girl, you know! Not like Bill says, with his tramps! Well, two can play at that game! Come on, O’Malley, get that Van Heusen off and dance for me! Dance for your First Woman President!”
As Schumer helped Hillary away from the podium, Tom Perez took over and smiled. “We’re so totally going win in 2020!”
Enjoy, and I look forward towards the outrage one little opinion piece makes.
Edit: Clarification, because I can!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 11:06:52
Yes and the POTUS has been spreading false information, the guy the entire world is listening to.
Burden of proof falls on the congress apparently so ask them.
So far the biggest source of facts I don't like has been Trump and the WH. Hark, how many fake scandals have the media reported since inauguration day?
Aren't we up to 16 now?
Thats how it works, right wing medias went nuts over Obama the same way the left is going nuts over Trump. Its like that everywhere. Except the media isn't playing a big role in Obama's "facts I don't like." They just didn't cover it when Obama outright lied (except by conservative media outlets, who, because of the disdain of the MSM, is gathering steam at a rapid rate), nor did the conservative media create facts I don't like stories during Obama's term (most of what was reported were other people creating facts I don't like, not the media themselves. This is something completely new in Trump's case).
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-03-15 11:07:33
Seriously. Do you not even know tax law?
Why would they, not like they earn money or have a real job.
Another interesting voting demographic split between Hillary and Trump.
College graduates
49 Hillary
45 Trump
Post Graduates (higher degrees)
58 Hillary
37 Trump
Family Income
Under $30,000
53 Hillary
41 Trump
$30,000–49,999
51 Hillary
42 Trump
$50,000–99,999
46 Hillary
50 Trump
$100,000–199,999
47 Hillary
48 Trump
So despite holding more "education" Hillary voters made less money then their less "educated" deplorable, racist, sexist rivals.
Thats normal, Trump has appeal for people with a lot of money and those people can easily afford higher studies.
Libs appeal young people, students and the poor.
Also, the type of education you are refering to has little to do with college degree or your income.
So making over 50K a year is "lots of money"... holy ***no wonder you guys are so wrong about economical stuff.
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By Viciouss 2017-03-15 11:12:13
Wiki's 4 sources never stated that the nation of Saudi Arabia itself sponsered terrorism (hell, the JASTA bill tried to do exactly the same thing, which is to tie the state to the 9/11 terrorists because they lived in Saudi Arabia).
Wow, you really don't know anything about the Saudi's huh? I guess thats not surprising. Why don't you go ask your mentor, Saevel? Even he knows they have been getting away with funding terrorism for decades. The whole government is the King, and he lets his royal family literally do whatever they want and they get away with it because if the King doesn't do something, the "nation of Saudi Arabia" isn't responsible.
Nobody has ever been able to hold "Saudi Arabia" responsible for anything because of the royal family. Even if its proven they are involved, the King won't extradite them. As long as Saudi donors keep pouring billions into Islamic terrorism, its not going anywhere.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2017-03-15 11:12:17
Yes and the POTUS has been spreading false information, the guy the entire world is listening to.
Burden of proof falls on the congress apparently so ask them.
So far the biggest source of facts I don't like has been Trump and the WH. Hark, how many fake scandals have the media reported since inauguration day?
Aren't we up to 16 now?
Thats how it works, right wing medias went nuts over Obama the same way the left is going nuts over Trump. Its like that everywhere. Except the media isn't playing a big role in Obama's "facts I don't like." They just didn't cover it when Obama outright lied (except by conservative media outlets, who, because of the disdain of the MSM, is gathering steam at a rapid rate), nor did the conservative media create facts I don't like stories during Obama's term (most of what was reported were other people creating facts I don't like, not the media themselves. This is something completely new in Trump's case). You're joking right?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-15 11:12:21
Pelosi piped up again. "It seems very clear that the key to Trump’s success was hats. Many, many hats. The poors love hats! So we need hats too, and they should have a catchy message, one that sums up where we stand as liberals. Trump has red ones that say ‘Make America Great Again,’ but ours should be blue and say ‘America Is A Cesspit Of Racist/Sexist/Transphobic Hate Crimes Thanks To You Jesus-Hugging Idiots, So Submit To Our Commands.’”
They loved the idea, but Pelosi's slogan wouldn't fit; the hats, made in Mexico, would read “Obey Us, Peasants.”
LOL
By Viciouss 2017-03-15 11:14:10
Thats without even mentioning the UAE and Qatar, Saudi neighbors who love them some terrorists.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-03-15 11:29:05
Seriously. Do you not even know tax law?
Why would they, not like they earn money or have a real job.
Another interesting voting demographic split between Hillary and Trump.
College graduates
49 Hillary
45 Trump
Post Graduates (higher degrees)
58 Hillary
37 Trump
Family Income
Under $30,000
53 Hillary
41 Trump
$30,000–49,999
51 Hillary
42 Trump
$50,000–99,999
46 Hillary
50 Trump
$100,000–199,999
47 Hillary
48 Trump
So despite holding more "education" Hillary voters made less money then their less "educated" deplorable, racist, sexist rivals.
Thats normal, Trump has appeal for people with a lot of money and those people can easily afford higher studies.
Libs appeal young people, students and the poor.
Also, the type of education you are refering to has little to do with college degree or your income.
So making over 50K a year is "lots of money"... holy ***no wonder you guys are so wrong about economical stuff.
50k is the median income. "A lot" is subjective but here I am applying it to people who cant afford higher studies.
Umm those over median, voted for trump despite NOT having higher degrees. Look at the numbers cause it's obvious you didn't bother.
What they show is young kids with expensive education and ***jobs voted for Hillary. Older people with cheaper education who have good jobs voted for Trump.
Completely demolishes the prevailing progressive narrative
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-03-15 11:29:16
Yes and the POTUS has been spreading false information, the guy the entire world is listening to.
Burden of proof falls on the congress apparently so ask them.
So far the biggest source of facts I don't like has been Trump and the WH. Hark, how many fake scandals have the media reported since inauguration day?
Aren't we up to 16 now?
Thats how it works, right wing medias went nuts over Obama the same way the left is going nuts over Trump. Its like that everywhere. Except the media isn't playing a big role in Obama's "facts I don't like." They just didn't cover it when Obama outright lied (except by conservative media outlets, who, because of the disdain of the MSM, is gathering steam at a rapid rate), nor did the conservative media create facts I don't like stories during Obama's term (most of what was reported were other people creating facts I don't like, not the media themselves. This is something completely new in Trump's case).
At least you are proving me right. Elaborate.
Are you saying that conservative media was making ***up about Obama? Remember, if you claim that they made up the birther movement, then you can no longer attribute Trump towards it, since Trump is not the media (as evidenced by today).
Should I bring out CNN's Trump-Nuke Story that was completely fabricated? How about the NYTs Trump-Wiretap story that was either completely fabricated or completely true, depending on how it's played? What about WP's Russia hacking Vermont's power grid? Shall we even touch Buzzfeed's dossier?
Can you point out any conservative media stories that have the same level of fakeness as is being churned out today?
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