Random Politics & Religion #20

Free stuff is a classic liberal thing though...just ask Bernie Sanders...

You honestly think that hasn't been the liberal's argument for decades?

"Wait, you don't want to support healthcare, don't you care about the sick/elderly/poor/children? You monster!"

"Wait, you don't want to support education, don't you care about the poor/minority/children? You monster!"

Seriously, it's old. We already know that the liberals don't give a ***, because they have been controlling the teacher's union for the past 40+ years, and Obamacare was anything but to help sick and poor people in getting healthcare.

No, its not my argument at all, its nausi's argument that Obama himself ordered the wiretap of Trump. Not only did that not happen, I do not believe there was any wiretap of Trump Tower, Trump's microwave, Trump's cellphone, nothing at all, especially since we have credible people saying it didn't, and we have NO ONE credible showing that it did. But hey you tried KN, fell flat on your face, but I'm sure you are used to that. Maybe page 36 will be better for you.

Then again, maybe not.

That Obama wiretapped Trump? No, I didn't say that you did.

I did accuse you of taking Trump's tweets so literally that you needed to feel morally superior for pointing out that Obama personally did not order Trump to be wiretapped, even though that isn't what Trump said or inferred.

You know, if you actually read the post instead of skimming, it might help you look a little bit more intelligent......

Should look into the system of 'Medical Alliancing' used by New Zealand. Employers should not be held responsible for healthcare and neither should the state in its entirety.
https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/2014/oct/21/nhs-learn-new-zealand-healthcare-system


Elementary, yes.
High school, yes.
Colleges, no.

Elemental and High School teach universally applicable subjects like science, math and biology which lead into STEM fields and engineering. It's beneficial to society to garner interest in the same in its young students. College should absolutely not be free. Degrees are already depreciated enough as it is and I'm not paying tax to cover someone's useless piece-of-***degree in Gender Studies. I'd be keen on partial subsidies for engineering, medical or other useful degrees though.

I think this is akin to what I explained above, just didn't see this part of the post until I got here.


As long as schools/colleges/universities are accredited I honestly don't mind where people study. Do keep in mind however that different universities have different reputations for various disciplines. Employers worth their salt will notice if a graduate has a degree from a university they know excels at the field they are working in.

Its funny how over the last couple of days the narrative has gone from full on accusing Obama of wiretapping Trump, especially from nausi, to a couple of press conferences walking back the claim, citing quotation marks, and failing to show any evidence despite a Congressional mandate, so that now its "We are taking Trump literally, and thats wrong. Therefore, we are wrong, and Trump is right."
And yet, there is still nothing from the WH to suggest that Trump was the target of any surveillance during the campaign.

You try too hard Vic.

Nobody is saying that Trump is right in this case, except for you, and only in snarkiness.

Wait, are you expecting an investigation to occur within a week and provide results?

Remember, a lot of Obama's mainstays are still there. Of course they aren't going to give themselves away, especially when they are under the delusion of fighting "the good fight."

No free college or health care. But my point is that nothing is free someone has to pay for it.

The *** presidency will be over by the time we find the Russians !

I, along with Congress, am expecting to see some basis for these wild accusations that originated from Trump. They seem to be getting impatient, placing holds on Trump nominees and such. Its been what, two weeks? So far the WH has not done anything asked of them. They read a blog on breitbart and ran with it, you should have seen how nausi himself just got way out there, as if he was leading the Iditarod, just retract and be done with it.

The problem that I see with socialism is that people have difficulty separating the feel-good social justice theories and the cold, harsh realities of how it all actually works. I would be the biggest socialist out there if I could depend on my tax dollars getting a better deal than what the free market could provide, but bloated bureaucracies and chronic inefficiency plague practically everything that governments control.

While the healthcare system has not been at its best for some time, I highly doubt putting the government in control would "fix" it. For most things, limited, common-sense regulations and limited, common-sense welfare programs combined with the free market result in the best bang for your buck. Instead, we get ridiculous regulations and inefficient, exploited welfare programs with limitations on the free market. Yay.

We've got FISA warrants that which establish the Obama admin's desire to look into trump. That's at least the start of a motive.

a bazillion times more than you got.

Just curious.
Hey KN, have you seen a copy of these FISA warrants that nausi has?

It doesn't matter what they say, they exist. One filed right after the nomination and another weeks before the election.

Meanwhile the pile of evidence that indicates Russian hacking remains at a big fat ZERO.

Yes yes nausi, we know you photoshopped them. I am just wondering if you have shared with anyone.

Keep clinging...

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So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!

You rang?

Interesting assertion you are making there. Meanwhile on a planet known as Earth lives a man named Roger Stone who is a long time Trump advisor, who in fact did make contact with Russian assets in order to hack the DNC.


http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/324060-roger-stone-says-he-believes-secret-warrant-led-to-collection-of


Do note that what you do on Twitter is not hidden from the public let alone the all seeing eye of the Obama government. Totally not illegal.

However, what he (Stone) is upset about was the information on his email exchanges regarding the contracting for the hacking of the DNC.


But it gets juicer if you believe the political gossips:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-ally-roger-stone-says-us-intelligence-tried-to-assassinate-him-in-wednesday-hit-and-run-crash/

Infowars because I know how much you love it...

https://www.infowars.com/breaking-trump-insider-roger-stone-survives-hit-and-run-car-accident/

Anyhow, been mentioning his name the last couple of days in here and obviously we weren't paying attention...

It's pretty simple at this point: They got the contracts, they're building a case. People's jimmies (Like Roger Stone) are rustled.

I don't believe anything anymore man. I'm going to Huff Post women section

Donny if I think about the future it's the Sun engulfing the Earth killing us all...

My point is why worry about the future ? I can't change it I'm just trying to get through today...

Same with Trump all this fear and paranoia is bad for you. Have a drink relax you will live longer.