Random Politics & Religion #23 (Fake News)

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By eliroo 2017-05-10 11:37:49  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sally Yates defied him

I forgot that all parts of our government needs to fall in line with the president.
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 11:43:02  
Who is Sally Yates a porn star ?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-10 11:43:05  
eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sally Yates defied him

I forgot that all parts of our government needs to fall in line with the president.
Since when does the Attorney General decides what laws to follow and what laws to ignore?

We have court cases that state that the President doesn't have that authority. So why should the AG?

Or is it ok depending on what law you want to enforce and what law you don't?
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 11:43:58  
What the world needs right now is more attorneys !
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 11:45:10  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sally Yates defied him

I forgot that all parts of our government needs to fall in line with the president.
Since when does the Attorney General decides what laws to follow and what laws to ignore?

We have court cases that state that the President doesn't have that authority. So why should the AG?

Or is it ok depending on what law you want to enforce and what law you don't?

You are forgetting she is wrong cause she is a woman !
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 11:46:00  
Go watch Perks of Being a Wallflower and stop worrying about James Comey !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-10 11:46:33  
eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sally Yates defied him

I forgot that all parts of our government needs to fall in line with the president.

It's a freaking presidential appointee with a high turnover rate. Look at this list and see how many Deputy Attorney Generals serve under multiple presidents. If you have a problem with that, you have to realize that it's not a Trump issue. New president comes in, old deputy attorney general goes out. It's clockwork.
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 11:47:52  
So James Comey can't find a job now welcome to the rest of America !
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 11:49:37  
If James Comey didn't want to be fired he would have become a Supreme Court Justice.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-05-10 11:51:39  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sally Yates defied him

I forgot that all parts of our government needs to fall in line with the president.

It's a freaking presidential appointee with a high turnover rate. Look at this list and see how many Deputy Attorney Generals serve under multiple presidents. If you have a problem with that, you have to realize that it's not a Trump issue. New president comes in, old deputy attorney general goes out. It's clockwork.

All senior officials are replaced whenever a new party comes in power, it's part of the process. The population is just too ignorant to know better and the Dems are capitalizing on that ignorance. Even Rua who's normally a very well read and studied individual got bullshited into thinking this wasn't normal. Typically the outgoing folks stay on just long enough for their replacements to be found and then they resign immediately before their replacement is nominated. Only thing different now is their "taking a stand" and refusing to resign, so their having to be manually fired.

Same thing happens after corporate mergers or buyouts, senior management types resign as new ones are picked.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-05-10 11:54:10  
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So James Comey can't find a job now welcome to the rest of America !

His Democrat allies already got things lined up for him, he'll hang out for a year or two then get picked up. He's done his part for "The Cause".

This is the best thing that could of happened to him, had he resigned like tradition dictated then he would forever be remember as "That Guy" and would be persona-non-grata among the Democrats, he nice jobs, no book deals, nothing but a dark spiral downward. Now he goes out like a "Hero" and the guy who defied Trump / ect.
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By Nausi 2017-05-10 11:58:40  
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Sounds more like laughter. Yep, definitely laughing.
That's because you exist in a bubble.
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By Nausi 2017-05-10 12:00:33  
Libs should be happy, Trump finally upheld Hillary's honor and fired Comey for daring to interfere with her 2016 victory.
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By Nausi 2017-05-10 12:08:28  
Every time libs flip out and get so unhinged, they only people they're impressing is themselves. The rest of the country is not going to be swayed by the foul language, or the fake protesters, or the violence. They're going to turn to trump in their disgust.

Liberal leaders probably know this but are too lazy to find some other source of fundraising aside from the moonbats.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2017-05-10 12:18:59  
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He's just some schmuck lawyer. He was never a cop or a detective or a private investigator or a criminal investigator of any kind. He wouldn't even know where to start....

Come on, he was a US DA and so was Robert Mueller, the previous FBI director. He worked for Republican and Democrat presidents investigating criminal cases and worked in the defense industry before becoming FBI director.

/headache
from having to defend a guy who is an idiot (backdoors into encryption wtf) but not for the reasons being discussed

Asura.Saevel said: »
[ Firing of Comey is understandable as he was an Obama holdover and pro-democrat. What usually happens after a power hand over between parties is the former heads resign gradually over the first year or so as the new administration replaces them. Comey refused to resign so Trump had to fire him. It's a political statement of non-cooperation. Comey will now be cheered as a hero by the Democrats instead of reviled as the man who dared to question Her Majesty.

That is not how it works or has ever worked for the FBI director who have 10 year terms for a reason


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Since when does the Attorney General decides what laws to follow and what laws to ignore?

We have court cases that state that the President doesn't have that authority. So why should the AG?

Or is it ok depending on what law you want to enforce and what law you don't?
Just following order's = not an excuse

Sessions once asked Yates about AG's responsibility to say 'no' to a president

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“If the views the president wants to execute is unlawful, should the attorney general or deputy attorney general say no?” Sessions asked.

“Senator, I believe the attorney general or the deputy attorney general has the obligation to follow the law and the Consitution and to give their independent legal advice to the president,” she responded.
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By Nausi 2017-05-10 12:20:34  
Trump is meeting with the Russian foreign minister today.

This guy has an afterglow effect in his trolling!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-10 12:31:13  
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »

He's just some schmuck lawyer. He was never a cop or a detective or a private investigator or a criminal investigator of any kind. He wouldn't even know where to start....

Come on, he was a US DA and so was Robert Mueller, the previous FBI director. He worked for Republican and Democrat presidents investigating criminal cases and worked in the defense industry before becoming FBI director.

/headache
from having to defend a guy who is an idiot (backdoors into encryption wtf) but not for the reasons being discussed

as a lawyer.... (first bold)
Why do you argue with me only to agree later (second bold)... The point is that he is not now and never was an FBI AGENT investigating crimes. He's the director of an agency... not the only guy working on the case. I'm sure one of the other thirty five thousand people that work there can pick up the slack after losing super sluth james comey...
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 12:31:18  
Nausi said: »
Trump is meeting with the Russian foreign minister today.

This guy has an afterglow effect in his trolling!

Pictured here:
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 12:32:27  
Also the Russians are coming:
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By Nausi 2017-05-10 12:36:12  
Colbert's audience were so brainwashed they cheered when he first broke the news to them yesterday.

Colbert had to shame them for not following his lead.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-05-10 12:38:02  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sally Yates defied him
I forgot that all parts of our government needs to fall in line with the president.
Since when does the Attorney General decides what laws to follow and what laws to ignore? ...
For about as long as there has been an office of the Attorney General.

Remember how Holder slapped all those crooked bankers in jail for fraud, forgery, and moral turpitude?

Neither do i.
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 12:38:46  
I thought the attorney general was the guy that put those labels on cigarettes...
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 12:39:49  
Why are surgeon's doctoring my cigarettes ! They should be operating...
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-10 12:42:45  
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Robert Mueller

Mueller, also a lawyer, offered to resign after the PSP wiretapping..

J. Edgar Hoover would have been a better example of a hands on fbi director / investigator....

but harder to make a comparison to comey
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-05-10 12:44:48  
Carter Page, under scrutiny in Russia probe, praises Comey firing

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(CNN)Carter Page, one of a handful of top former Donald Trump aides under sharp scrutiny by congressional Russia probes, praised the President's firing of FBI Director James Comey, saying Wednesday that he had been a victim of civil rights abuses and a "fake" Russia investigation.
"Yesterday's decision to hold Mr. Comey accountable for his well-publicized missteps on July 5, 2016, and October 28, 2016, are likely to be just the tip of the iceberg given the completely fake Russia allegations against myself and others which he vigorously perpetuated in his Congressional testimonies," Page said in a letter obtained by CNN.
Page, a former foreign policy adviser to Trump during the election, also emphasized Wednesday that he had never met Trump in person.

Page is one of four former Trump aides who have come under intense scrutiny of congressional investigators, including former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, former Trump adviser Roger Stone and former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
Federal investigators obtained a warrant to track Page's communications, and believed he was being cultivated as a source for a Russian spy -- whether he knew it or not, according to The Washington Post
Senate investigators asked Page to provide documentation of his interactions by Tuesday, but Page rebutted them in letters sent over the past week, including a nine-page message telling investigators they should ask the administration of former President Barack Obama for evidence of Page's communications with any Russians.
And how the rats dance when the cat is belled.
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 12:45:55  
You guys are forgetting the FBI's main objective:
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-05-10 12:46:04  
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I thought the attorney general was the guy that put those labels on cigarettes...

who did the "I just smoke the packs that cause birth defects" joke

prolly bill hicks
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By fonewear 2017-05-10 12:47:53  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
fonewear said: »
I thought the attorney general was the guy that put those labels on cigarettes...

who did the "I just smoke the packs that cause birth defects" joke

prolly bill hicks

I got a reference...processing...execute

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By eliroo 2017-05-10 12:48:05  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sally Yates defied him

I forgot that all parts of our government needs to fall in line with the president.

It's a freaking presidential appointee with a high turnover rate. Look at this list and see how many Deputy Attorney Generals serve under multiple presidents. If you have a problem with that, you have to realize that it's not a Trump issue. New president comes in, old deputy attorney general goes out. It's clockwork.

Then why didn't the appoint a new AG when Trump became president? They requested that she serves under the AG.

No this isn't the same thing.
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