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Random Politics & Religion #23 (Fake News)
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-18 16:24:54
If he could do that while not losing the personality traits that got him elected, the rabid media would be forced to focus on his personality and agenda, which would only help him with his base. It wouldn't just help him on his base, it would also help him on the fence sitters, because then he can just state "well, these people have only been focusing on me and not my accomplishments, here's what I have done...."
Or better yet, turn the conversation around against the media.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-18 16:25:06
I don't think it's hubris to think the constantly evolving one is probably going to end up being right.
That's not where the hubris was in his statement.
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Odin.Slore
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By Odin.Slore 2017-05-18 16:26:40
Only problem I have with evolution is where are all the life forms between apes and humans. Like neanderthals and ***? Maybe they are still here with, they just vote democrat.
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By Odin.Slore 2017-05-18 16:28:01
with us.... damn edit button
By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:28:09
So we are telling people what to believe now...okay I believe in a thing called love !
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:29:23
People have been claiming creation, in various different cultures, for thousands of years and still have nothing resembling concrete proof.
The current theories have astounding amounts of proof gathered in only decades and is constantly changing as our understanding of the universe grows.
I don't think it's hubris to think the constantly evolving one is probably going to end up being right. If Creationists believe a god can make things in the blink of an eye, then I must be god. I can eat something and then create solid waste a half hour later.
I don't believe anything you say or do. So what religion is that ?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-18 16:29:52
Putting the importance of sociological studies aside, this level of hubris is the antithesis of scientific thought. It will not serve you well in other arguments. There's no hubris involved in saying creationism or creationism lite are both wrong.
"2+2=9"
"2+2=34"
Both are wrong and a distinction is pretty useless. The distinction is kinda pointless. Neither view is less wrong than the other.
"My opinion is correct, and there is no chance that I'm wrong. Therefore, any responses that do not match my views 100% are pointless and there is no need for distinction between them." In this case, yeah pretty much.
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Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-05-18 16:30:01
Only problem I have with evolution is where are all the life forms between apes and humans. they dead
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Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-18 16:30:11
Putting the importance of sociological studies aside, this level of hubris is the antithesis of scientific thought. It will not serve you well in other arguments. There's no hubris involved in saying creationism or creationism lite are both wrong.
"2+2=9"
"2+2=34"
Both are wrong and a distinction is pretty useless.
There is a boatload of hubris in gnostic atheism, which is essentially the view you're espousing along with your terrible analogy. You would never see me fighting against agnostic atheist views.
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:30:24
Yea I don't get anime references but okay.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-18 16:30:39
People have been claiming creation, in various different cultures, for thousands of years and still have nothing resembling concrete proof.
The current theories have astounding amounts of proof gathered in only decades and is constantly changing as our understanding of the universe grows.
I don't think it's hubris to think the constantly evolving one is probably going to end up being right. If Creationists believe a god can make things in the blink of an eye, then I must be god. I can eat something and then create solid waste a half hour later. And in the other orifice, comes out ***.
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:31:11
You are free to believe whatever you want unless you are liberal. Then you believe what we believe.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-18 16:31:15
Only problem I have with evolution is where are all the life forms between apes and humans. they dead ok, I laughed at that.
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:32:30
How many pro life women were allowed to join the pussy hat babes in DC ? Oh zero so much for tolerance...
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:34:16
I know evolution is real cause I still people that look prehistoric at Wal Mart
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-18 16:36:17
I know evolution is real cause I still people that look prehistoric at Wal Mart #NotMyWalmart
Proof that Darwin's theory of Evolution is false.
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:38:43
Well Scientist will believe anything if you give them enough research money. So I don't trust them.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-18 16:39:48
For Fone:
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Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-05-18 16:40:24
Im not espousing or arguing against any belief system or lack thereof. Simply stating a basic fact that modern humans or the earth itself being 10k years old is disproven by all relevant evidence. I don't know why this is controversial.
By eliroo 2017-05-18 16:40:25
What is creationism-lite?
By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:42:15
What is creationism-lite?
Adding water to creationism...
By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:45:04
Don't worry with global warming coming. We will see the end of the Earth soon. I mean ***it was 85 outside today. By next week I expect temperatures int he upper 90s.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-05-18 16:45:11
I don't know why this is controversial. Because Jesus.
I was looking for a good "Because Jesus" meme, I got this instead:
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:45:30
Every year around June it gets warmer and I can't explain it.
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:47:53
So is Trump impeached yet ? I heard sometime around 8 pm tonight.
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:49:00
Join my organization
If I get 100,000 signatures he gets impeached.
https://impeachdonaldtrumpnow.org/
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-05-18 16:49:04
Im not espousing or arguing against any belief system or lack thereof. Simply stating a basic fact that modern humans or the earth itself being 10k years old is disproven by all relevant evidence. I don't know why this is controversial.
You basically stated that the difference between belief systems was irrelevant. Make sure you know what you're arguing before backpedaling a few posts later.
That being said, define "disproven". There is "disproven" in the true scientific sense, which is in layman's terms to say that we don't know everything, but with all the evidence we have this is our best conclusion. Then there's "disproven" in the non-scientific (read: stupid) sense, which is to say "Even though I'm basically a glorified ape with a limited perspective on the universe, I'm 100% right, everyone else is wrong, end of story."
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By fonewear 2017-05-18 16:52:24
I was created in a lab I got this weird birth mark thing to prove it.
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The last one went on long enough so I'm gonna go ahead and restart.
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