Random Politics & Religion #28: The Last One

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 Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-10-02 13:56:14  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
It can't be that the Puerto Rican government is ill-suited to handle such a crisis (and in many cases impeding efforts to get help), it has to be that Trump bad, something something golf
Late reply I know but I never said anything about the actual humanitarian response. Comments about the adequacy of it are varying so whether or not it will marked as botched or successfull will be fully worked out later on. What was needed at the time were some presidential words directed to those in crisis but you saw what they got. It was tactless and embarrassing and you very well know that.
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By Nausi 2017-10-02 14:45:14  
What is embarrassing is the "trump is killing us" catchphase the left is trying to meme into history.
 
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By Zerowone 2017-10-02 14:52:56  
You're killing me smalls
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-02 15:19:58  
Not a lot of coverage as the news is busy covering Vegas, but Tom Petty died.

Tom Petty, legendary rocker, is dead at 66

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Tom Petty, the rocker best known as the frontman of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, is dead at 66, CBS News has confirmed.

The legendary musician suffered a full cardiac arrest and was found unconscious and not breathing in his Malibu home Sunday night. He was taken to UCLA Santa Monica Hospital and put on life support, reports TMZ.
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By Ruaumoko 2017-10-02 15:24:58  
I give it about... three months before the next massacre.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-02 15:28:00  
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I give it about... three months before the next massacre.

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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-02 15:31:02  


The Onion said:
FAIRFAX, VA—In the aftermath of a shooting in Las Vegas that left at least 58 people dead and more than 500 wounded, National Rifle Association officials said Monday that mass shootings are just the unfortunate price of protecting people’s freedom to commit mass shootings. “What happened in Las Vegas is a horrific tragedy, but it’s sadly the inevitable cost of safeguarding the rights of Americans to perpetrate such horrific tragedies,” said NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre, adding that defending the constitutional right to commit mass murder meant accepting that mass murders were occasionally going to happen. “As saddened as we are today, we must always remember that preserving our sacred liberty to go on violent rampages is far more important than any one violent rampage.” LaPierre went on to say that legislation like recent state laws permitting guns on college campuses and an upcoming House bill that would relax restrictions on the purchase of gun silencers were vital to ensuring people had more freedom to commit much deadlier massacres, even if they sometimes lead to much deadlier massacres.
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By Ruaumoko 2017-10-02 15:35:15  
It still beggars belief that, in America, people with pre-existing mental health conditions/disorders have easy access to automatic weapons but not health insurance.

This is a mental health issue and it needs resolving.
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By Asura.Tydis 2017-10-02 15:41:52  
Lack of proper gun control is bad m'kay
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-10-02 16:02:16  
Asura.Tydis said: »
Lack of proper gun control is bad m'kay
Nice says hi.

So does Berlin, London (stop waiving London), Paris, Stockholm, Barcelona, and Jerusalem.

All of these places have had attacks within the past year and supposedly have stricter gun laws than the US does.

Let's face it, people are going to kill each other regardless of the tool they use. Gun laws wouldn't have prevented the above attacks. Should we ban cars too? What about when people start killing each other more with sporks, should we ban sporks too?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2017-10-02 16:10:45  
Asura.Tydis said: »
Lack of proper gun control is bad m'kay

You have no idea what weapons were all involved or how they obtained m'kay
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:12:38  
Shiva.Shruiken said: »
Not a lot of coverage as the news is busy covering Vegas, but Tom Petty died.

Tom Petty, legendary rocker, is dead at 66

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Tom Petty, the rocker best known as the frontman of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, is dead at 66, CBS News has confirmed.

The legendary musician suffered a full cardiac arrest and was found unconscious and not breathing in his Malibu home Sunday night. He was taken to UCLA Santa Monica Hospital and put on life support, reports TMZ.

You could say my heart is wait for it...broken.
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:15:37  
Ruaumoko said: »
It still beggars belief that, in America, people with pre-existing mental health conditions/disorders have easy access to automatic weapons but not health insurance.

This is a mental health issue and it needs resolving.

Well don't just stand there solve it !
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:16:10  
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Lack of proper gun control is bad m'kay

Wow so insightful you really should take your talents to the Huff Post.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-02 16:16:41  
fonewear said: »
You could say my heart is wait for it...broken.

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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-10-02 16:17:49  
wb king
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:18:58  
I keep hearing ISIS is somehow involved with this las vegas shooting. Maybe the religion of peace is somehow involved...
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:19:46  
http://nypost.com/2017/10/02/isis-claims-responsibility-for-las-vegas-massacre/
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By Asura.Tydis 2017-10-02 16:20:04  
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Lack of proper gun control is bad m'kay

Wow so insightful you really should take your talents to the Huff Post.
America decided at Sandy Hook that their precious guns are more important than the lives of children so what's the *** point in meaningful debate at that point?

Compare gun violence to people ramming their trucks into people as much as you want, it's still going to be as stupid as any other comparison.

You have a mass shooting nearly on a daily basis and you'll sit there and defend gun ownership.
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:21:49  
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fonewear said: »
Asura.Tydis said: »
Lack of proper gun control is bad m'kay

Wow so insightful you really should take your talents to the Huff Post.
America decided at Sandy Hook that their precious guns are more important than the lives of children so what's the *** point in meaningful debate at that point?

Compare gun violence to people ramming their trucks into people as much as you want, it's still going to be as stupid as any other comparison.

You have a mass shooting nearly on a daily basis and you'll sit there and defend gun ownership.

You are right about one thing you don't know how to debate.
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:22:47  
Let's take your argument serious for a second. How exactly would a tougher gun law prevented the las vegas shooting I'll wait.
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:24:23  
This is why we can't have nice things:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/10/02/report-cbs-legal-exec-blasts-las-vegas-victims-republican-gun-toters/

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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:26:57  
So basically if you can't read that image some woman on cbs said: I'm not sympathetic cause they are gun toting Republicans. That is what the Democrats think of us. Bunch of country bumpkins with guns.
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:30:16  
When you tell me how you would stop a guy locked in his hotel room with tons of guns and ammo and how some law would stop that. Then I'll listen.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-10-02 16:32:03  
Ruaumoko said: »
It still beggars belief that, in America, people with pre-existing mental health conditions/disorders have easy access to automatic weapons but not health insurance.
I'm sorry, but last I looked, having health insurance doesn't mean that you get healthcare. It just makes healthcare a little more affordable for those who have rarer diseases that requires expensive treatments and medicine.

Health insurance is just a risk hedging tool that some people think is the first layer of receiving healthcare, which it is not. And even then, including in socialist medicine countries like the UK, doesn't mean you are covered by mental disorders. Health insurance doesn't usually cover it, except the high-taxed "Cadillac" plans.
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:34:10  
The easy thing to do is what the media does. Blames the gun not the person. They can't solve mental health/ crazy guy with a gun. So they want no one to have guns. Which will never happen. So it's a non issue in America.
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By fonewear 2017-10-02 16:39:01  
Anyways give it a day or two and the media will be back to bashing Trump. And this shooting will just be a memory.
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