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Dev Tracker - Discussion
By Jetackuu 2022-07-09 10:04:30
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »March 2019 was the last time they had Emp items, not that long ago. It's been forever. Considering for years they had it twice a year, March and September, and it's been MIA since then. /angrydome
By Starbucks 2022-07-09 10:09:40
How possible is it that new gear could make Bumba armour only bis for magic and hybrid we?
Maybe they'll do that then just make Bumba armour better with r25 again.
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By Nariont 2022-07-09 10:12:12
Depends on how big the jump to +3 is but as it stands i think emp +3 will stand alongside max aug'd ody gear overall
By Starbucks 2022-07-09 10:15:05
Well there's only likely to be one piece for each dd with was. If it was 12% and lots of modifier stat maybe it would be better?
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By Nariont 2022-07-09 10:19:29
well you're already seeing it with skulker's vest +2, it's competing with nyame at +2 and if the wsd increase is reasonable itll overtake it easy for dagger ws' due to the stupid high dex it has over nyame
EDIT: +2 wins over nyame already actually, outside of making use of sc bonus possibly, could change at r30
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By Aerix 2022-07-09 10:39:10
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate.
By Nariont 2022-07-09 10:47:23
Right, though same time i wouldnt be surprised if empy adds more wsd in to DD jobs, empy so far has always been this kind of step up in terms of jse gear when compared to previous jse. But even in such a scenerio nyame will always have a place for the non-dd jobs/pieces with no wsd.
Same for DT/meva, the meva tiers seem like theyll be similar to what ody gear is providing, DT will vary, could be 1 piece, could be multiples, too early to say til whole sets are out
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By Aerix 2022-07-09 11:02:09
Right, though same time i wouldnt be surprised if empy adds more wsd in to DD jobs, empy so far has always been this kind of step up in terms of jse gear when compared to previous jse. But even in such a scenerio nyame will always have a place for the non-dd jobs/pieces with no wsd.
Same for DT/meva, the meva tiers seem like theyll be similar to what ody gear is providing, DT will vary, could be 1 piece, could be multiples, too early to say til whole sets are out
Agreed, it's hard to tell, but at least for the pieces shown they haven't put DT on any of the WSD pieces. In terms of MEVA it seems to vary tremendously depending on job, with mages getting significantly more than heavy DDs. So even the +3 upgrades probably won't reach Nyame levels for non-mages.
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By Thunderjet 2022-07-09 11:19:03
just thinking about heathen +3 makes me want to play DRK again jesus Caladbolg AM with that set is going to be bunkers
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By Starbucks 2022-07-09 12:16:25
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Nyame ruined FFXI for me.
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By Bahamut.Shozokui 2022-07-09 12:41:12
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate.
Beats it at R25, which most of the forum users here expressed they don't and won't have because they don't want to play Odyssey like a job as we do :P
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2022-07-09 21:11:01
well you're already seeing it with skulker's vest +2, it's competing with nyame at +2 and if the wsd increase is reasonable itll overtake it easy for dagger ws' due to the stupid high dex it has over nyame
EDIT: +2 wins over nyame already actually, outside of making use of sc bonus possibly, could change at r30
THF always has bonkers job specific gear to make up for standing up to magic like they are made of tissues.
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By Nariont 2022-07-09 22:12:54
Eh, mdt was always the easier thing to gear for, and once meva became a factor they did get put on turms, wouldnt call THF weak to magic more than any other DD, THFs problem has always been eva is either amazing or its a joke and that's all the defense the job has natively.
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By SimonSes 2022-07-10 01:42:25
just thinking about heathen +3 makes me want to play DRK again jesus Caladbolg AM with that set is going to be bunkers
Only if they increase % activation BY A LOT, otherwise it's only 5% more white damage on avg from bonus (even less assuming you are not always at 100% HP), but you lose tons of white damage boost from things like Sakpata head (PDL+DA damage). If you think about it, one Sakpata piece with like 7%PDL is stronger than whole 5/5 bonus right now.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2022-07-10 03:03:26
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Updates ruined FFXI for me.
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By Starbucks 2022-07-10 04:51:20
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Updates ruined FFXI for me. No. Bringing out a set with stupid specs like that you are gimp without which requires having 5 other people that can play to a set schedule and every single day (moglophone) that I couldn't work towards with a career and children ruined the game.
Omen, Dyna D, aeonics etc were all doable ad hoc with pick ups or a small number of people multiboxing
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By Thunderjet 2022-07-10 07:10:12
if i make 10 FFXI characters can i still Send all Log in points to main for the Empy mats kekw? double post ofc i need to know
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-07-10 07:14:08
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Updates ruined FFXI for me. No. Bringing out a set with stupid specs like that you are gimp without which requires having 5 other people that can play to a set schedule and every single day (moglophone) that I couldn't work towards with a career and children ruined the game.
Omen, Dyna D, aeonics etc were all doable ad hoc with pick ups or a small number of people multiboxing You can unlock and upgrade Nyame solely from pickups, especially if you're satisfied with it at R20. Being willing to make your own shouts so you're not waiting to see one also helps.
Also, even if it was impossible without a static, I'd hardly say being unable to fully power up gear from ONE piece of endgame at your leisure killed the game, considering the many events in the past that were like that when they were released, such as Sky.
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By Asura.Saevel 2022-07-10 09:03:46
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Updates ruined FFXI for me.
Just wait, R30 Nyame will have WSD+15 but V25 Bumba will instantly use Denounce on activation, pop fetter and then spawn all six of the T3's at 75%.
By SimonSes 2022-07-10 09:06:23
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Updates ruined FFXI for me.
Just wait, R30 Nyame will have WSD+15 but V25 Bumba will instantly use Denounce on activation, pop fetter and then spawn all six of the T3's at 75%.
R30 Nyame will have same WSD and only change from R25 will be +10 all stats. V25 Bumba will spawn fetter 1min after start and pop 2 adds. #hyperbolenothx
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By Aerix 2022-07-10 10:31:09
Either way, at v25 people might finally have to do Bumba the intended way instead of being able to SB zerg it. And the bonus stats will be significant enough that everyone will want r30.
That's when everyone will start complaining.
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By Asura.Meliorah 2022-07-10 11:59:36
Can't wait for the update that puts Ranking on AF/Relic/Emp to make it comparable to Odyssey, but in doing so will make it so it cannot be stored on mogslips anymore.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2022-07-10 13:12:05
Unless they make the new event impossible to beat without odyssey gear, I still won’t care when the gear is R30.
There is nothing I do in this game right now that I can’t beat without odyssey gear. I am not playing odyssey R20 or whatever level it is now.
Maybe it's because I have a great network of friends on a dead server but I'd never sell myself short like that. I agree Oddy is the worst content they gave us in ages due to the grind but it isn't hard by any means outside of having the people to do it. Games been too easy for ages.
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2022-07-10 14:36:31
Can't wait for the update that puts Ranking on AF/Relic/Emp to make it comparable to Odyssey, but in doing so will make it so it cannot be stored on mogslips anymore.
WARDROBES! Mwahahahaha!!!
Nyame is still All Jobs, however, while each Empy set for each job will still only have a single WSD piece most likely. Nyame already beats AF and even Relic usually, so most jobs will continue to rock 4/5 Nyame B with one Empy+2-3 piece in varying slots.
Plus having DT/MEVA during WS is a benefit that's hard to overstate. Updates ruined FFXI for me. No. Bringing out a set with stupid specs like that you are gimp without which requires having 5 other people that can play to a set schedule and every single day (moglophone) that I couldn't work towards with a career and children ruined the game.
Omen, Dyna D, aeonics etc were all doable ad hoc with pick ups or a small number of people multiboxing
My ody group is 3 real people and a 2nd account from a friend that is too busy to play. We don't have a daily scheduled time for segments or gaol, but we've cleared all the bosses with whatever jobs we had geared at the time. There are literally videos from Logical who has cleared almost all of them on NIN solo.
It doesn't require 5 other people. It just requires you to be motivated occasionally.
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By Bahamut.Cypan 2022-07-10 16:56:20
Unless they make the new event impossible to beat without odyssey gear, I still won’t care when the gear is R30.
There is nothing I do in this game right now that I can’t beat without odyssey gear. I am not playing odyssey R20 or whatever level it is now.
Maybe it's because I have a great network of friends on a dead server but I'd never sell myself short like that. I agree Oddy is the worst content they gave us in ages due to the grind but it isn't hard by any means outside of having the people to do it. Games been too easy for ages.
Yeah, I play at weird times for NA people on Odin I think. I tried a couple LSes, but the leaders were not the best…
I’ve cleared almost all V0 with my three characters, but I can’t seem to beat Ongo no matter what setup I try.
Gear up nin or get a friend to help and you can solo it on v0 without too much trouble.
https://youtu.be/rWj_VSMlyjc
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By billnes 2022-07-10 17:13:11
-> https://youtu.be/rWj_VSMlyjc <-
On the right-hand side, there is a plugin. What is it?
Thanks!
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By Bahamut.Negan 2022-07-10 17:21:42
equipviewer sir!
EDIT: It's in the Addons tab of Windower launcher
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