Dev Tracker - Discussion

It may be irrelevant for most posters here, but this looks like a solid update for new players and returnees, at least.

The curio moogle now sells all the old Limbus stuff for gil:

• 10k - Lv75 gear - Nashira, etc

• 30k - Lv99 gear - Enif, etc

• 1k - Ancient Beastcoins

• 2k - old limbus upgrade mats

Don't see Brutal there but you can most likely get that from Monisette with ABC's like you used to.

Ambuscade changes are also excellent for fresh 99's. On top of the general weapon/armor cost reductions, Total HM rewards got condensed from 26k down to 16k max, and now provides 5x the Metal/Fiber, plus 5x of each weapon upgrade material instead of the HQ armor chits.

edit: formatting

All the items purchasable with ABCs are not available at the Curio... because you can buy them with ABCs! 1k each, so it's really not a big deal.

Kind of weird that "get a +1 armor set for total hallmarks" was removed, though. You end up getting more under the new system because you get 25x Metal/Fiber per month from total hallmarks, but it takes substantially more menuing to end up with a +1 set on a new character and I'm very, very lazy. Glad I've got mine.

It's just 5x, not 25 - each reward gives you 5 now, instead of 1.

Getting all the mats(minus the pulse) for a free ambu weapon for 16k total HM is a pretty solid trade for a set of +1 chits, though.

For a new player who is spamming mid-level V2s for their first set, yes, the update results in more menuing. But also A LOT less Ambuscade. I'm talking hours. I don't know anyone who would bemoan lost minutes in the face of saved hours.

They can get reports of possible techical problems in those 36 hours and fix them in the next downtime.

So how does the 500k max Exemplar Points bonus work? Is it active already?

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11eu/detail/22429/detail.html

Good patch for new people. No more BS price on Patentia Sash. No effort access to Shedir Seraweels. Now only Seidr Cotehardie really exists as weird old pieces that can still be useful.

Ambu might be closer to the intro route they were going for. Cheaper Naeglings for access to segments. Lets hope limbus is alliance so people can go back to pretending they value other people past 6. It would be nice if they made room for the people that will be helped with these changes.

It's weird that they actually put out a patch for new people before the elites. Usually they put out the new content without bridging the gap for new people first. Then later they put out a patch softening it significantly with an easier path.

Enif legs for fast cast too.

Wtf, so it applies ONLY to Peach Power and Besieged...
(and they still kept the mistranslated sentence about ML50 not gaining any EP, lulz)

Where are you getting the information that it only applies to PP and besieged?

For me it's clear it will work for exp from all EP yelling mobs AND from EP granted by those listed events.

Good good, it better be working that way!

Else I'm gonna send a kamikaze SimonSes in their headquarters

They didn't fix the situation with capes and dyes.

Ambuscade already worked well as the intro route, and this just makes it even moreso.
Thing is, it's no longer an adequate bridge to content. +2 armor is a great, fast to acquire option that's... largely on par with Escha abjurations or decently augmented Reisen gear. Circa 2015. Weapons are nice starting point, but they don't cover everything, especially outside of DD roles.

As-is, folks are basically given a laundry list of other things to grind out, from content that's done on a far more limited basis now. Or maybe it's just a byproduct of the modern content killing off event linkshells. Either way, XI has never been great at ensuring inclusion, but it's been going even further downhill from what I've seen.

I think the problem is that XI's (lack of) design relies so much on established players just grinding out more weapons/HQs that streamlining what newer players would actually need to get into modern content would undermine subscriptions.

I'd like to see Ambu +3 armor at some time. Weaker then Empy +3 and augmented Gaol, but "good enough" to get those sets in the first place.

Kinda amusing that the changes made somewhere potentially unrelated to Abyssea actually made it “gain-exp”-able (according to the known issues).

But really why not just leaving as it is. Its not like abyssea is even close to a good experience site with how much exp is given anywhere else.

Putting my marker down: I don't think we'll get AF+4, I predict it'll be a Limbus grind to RP the AF+3.

Oh, 30k Sortiarius Earring and Patentia Sash? Wow, that's lower than I thought. Someone should have warned people to sell their overpriced Patentia Sashes months ago.

Those 14 people selling them on AH for pre-patch asking price, LOL


CS Apollyon II farming once on the hour - RIP, end of an era.

I think the biggest problem facing new-ish players right now is that the players who used to carry them so hard they could skip tiers of content all quit.

That doesn't mean you can't do the content that exists though, it just means you have to play the game instead of skipping it.

Players with Ambu+2 and AH gear can easily do:
Magian trials
JP/EP
All REM content
Most of GF, other than high-end Reisen stuff (which you can get from DI points)
Dynamis [D] wave 1 and 2
Most/all HTBF
Ody seg farms in Sheol A/B
All V0 Ody bosses
Omen card farms and probably most Omen bosses, maybe all but Ou.
Sortie (all upstairs, 1-2 basement EZ)
All Unity NMs except TC
Vagary
Sinister Reign

....then once you've done that, you're basically already endgame equipped. Frankly, I think you could handle most of this with 2 or 3 players. I distinctly remember when I came back to the game, doing a ton of this content with my 2 characters + 1 friend and we had precise ZERO Ody armor, and reforged empy didn't exist. I had 0 afterglowed REMA and no aeonic weapons. Since then, ambu released a shitload more free tokens, increased the cap on metals/fibers, and lowered the price of all the items.

Make like...2 friends who have the same gear as you, and get to grinding. Be happy that you have a mountain of content in front of you. I will always be baffled by people who are upset that they have a lot of content to do in the video game they're paying to play.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop looking at the "finish line" of the "race" and just...stay in your lane and drive. Stop worrying about "getting into endgame" and start...doing the endgame. The endgame starts at level 99, not at Odyssey V20, 8 boss Sortie, and wave 3 dynamis [d]. Go play it.

Very surprised they didn't touch capes at all. Weapons are cheaper to upgrade than capes now. Maybe at some point they'll slash dye and resin costs, make capes 10k to fully upgrade? Something like 5-10 needles/month for less gallantry wouldn't hurt either.

Quoting, both to respond and so it's in two different posts. If there is any MMO at all that shouldn't be no-lifed, it's FFXI today. The game isn't going anywhere, and it's not like we're getting tons of content that requires consistent playtime to experience/keep up with. What difference does it make if you and friends are enjoying Omen together vs. V15+ Odyssey runs?

It's like the fisherman story, but for FFXI:

New Player: I'll find a group for Ambu gear and job cards. I'll do this so I can enjoy playing with friends.
Others: You should try to get a carry for Empy +3 gear and some good weapons.
New Player: Why?
Others: So that you can take out higher end Odyssey NMs easier.
New Player: For what?
Others: So you have an easier time building ideal sets for your job.
New Player: For what?
Others: So that you can gear other jobs faster.
New Player: For what?
Others: So that you have better job selection for hard content.
New Player: For what?
Others: So you can find groups for that harder content.
New Player: Why?
Others: So that you can enjoy playing with friends.

Right, each reward of Metal and Fiber gives you 5, and there are 5 total of those, so 25 total per month instead of 5 (from that category), yeah?

I'm curious. Did they recently announce something about Artifact armor that vaguely ties it to Limbus? I keep hearing people speculating about it, but I don't remember if SE actually mentioned Artifact along with Limbus rework, or if that is something people were thinking would happen since it was used for original AF+1 reforging. I just don't recall where they mentioned Artifact and people made the connection to Limbus.

Just wishful thinking, unless i also missed something they've only brought up having to rework limbus, nothing in regards to rewards beyond retooling the process for the older stuff

I remember ambu gear being extraordinarily hard to grind through when i first came back. I had no LS. I figured out sparks gear and I had a lvl 95 excalibur. I'm happy that they added domain invasion as a crutch and other QoL because honestly some people hobbled through that content. It's nice when other people give you a lift, but honestly it's a lot better if there are reasonable pathways built into the game to let people succeed that aren't fortunate.

I am currently making chloris empys because I call them my boredom projects. I'd love to have my laundry list of gear and old events back but that's not the way it works.


There was a freshly picked where they basically said af and relic are old now and so we're going to do something about it. Maybe Ambuscade too. Our next project is Limbus.

So they didn't say it explicitly nor do i speak japanese, nor trust google translate, nor do i trust FFXIs to begin with. But the presentation order implied it. So no actual announcement where they actually make a firm promise.

During Freshly Picked a few months ago where they announced the new Limbus work, they made a side comment about AF and Relic, that they'd like to see those updated. It was kindof a one-off remark from what I gathered and not any type of commitment.

I think it's probably a miscommunication and people reading into it too much. They might do it, they might not, but they didn't explicitly say they were doing it that I saw. It's another case of people counting chickens before they hatch.

This is why there is not enough new players anymore.